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  1. 6 points
    Only mistake the IOC made (with hindsight admittedly) with Pyeongchang is going there 4 years late. This in 2014, & Sochi wouldn't have happened, & it's not a big leap to think that we'd now be watching Munich 2018 - handing off to Oslo on Sunday week. To be fair to IOC, I don't think anyone could've seen in 2007 just how bad it would get, & at the time it felt like a good, positive step, but as it turned out, picking Sochi over PC ended up being possibly the worst decision they ever made.
  2. 5 points
    Of course he is - he’s been spitting his dummie for the past 7 years. Quite honestly, PC doesn’t have to do much beyond getting through the 16 days unscathed to already start to repair some of the damage done to the WOGs reputation that Sochi’s big spending did.
  3. 5 points
    Here is my logo for LA2028. Instead of dumping the bid concept and starting afresh I have decided to link to the bid with a sun icon. The bid said #followthesun and the competitors and the visitors will do just that. The logo's beams are made up of past hosts highlighting the journey that the Olympics has got to to get to 2028. The word mark is then in blue to represent the sun rising behind the ocean. A new dawn for LA and a new dawn for the Olympics. All other support material can be found here. https://www.behance.net/gallery/56031033/LA2028-Branding
  4. 4 points
    Thought i'd post about my night volunteering at the Opening Ceremony. Was working at the entry gates so I got to see all the enthusiasm from the spectators. Was a little worried I wouldn't see any of the action but the night turned out to be even better than I thought. Managed to not get rained on as I was on break when the brief, but heavy shower arrived. Went back out once the ceremony began and we assisted with the various ceremony volunteers getting into the stadium. Once that was all underway I got to watch part of the Indigenous welcome, Christine Anu singing 'My Island Home' and Rikki Lee's beach bit. Then came the real highlight of the night, we were stationed back outside the stadium during the Parade of Nations. The athletes entered from the opposite end of the stadium from us but to my surprise, they exited the stadium right where we were. It was our job to point them in the direction of their buses. So all these athletes from around the world came out of the stadium and were dancing. hi 5ing us, fist bumping, filming us etc. The athletes from the African nations in particular were friendly, fun and hilarious. A few delegates from the nations handed our some pins to us as well, I got pins from Northern Ireland, Namibia and Cyprus which was awesome. Once that was done, we went back to letting more ceremony volunteers inside the stadium, this continued on for a while so we managed to go and watch the rest of the show. The torch relay, Prince Charles talking, Delta singing etc etc. Overall it was an amazing night. Loved the atmosphere and a great opening for the games.
  5. 4 points
    These Games were a wonderful pick me up after the organizational mess known as Rio. I shouldn't be surprised because the winter games always seem far more enjoyable than their big brother. I think that is because, at least in the case of American athletes, the winter athletes generally are far more likable than the summer games with its fair share of egomaniacs. These Games were impeccably organized and well-staged. As for empty seats, there were many empty seats at Seoul in 1988 as well as many of the World Cup matches staged in Korea in 2002, maybe the tickets were overpriced or maybe Koreans just do not flock to events unless there is a decent shot of Korean success. The Games also looked terrific (well, other than the bare patches of ground, but we saw that in Vancouver and Sochi, and we'll see them in 2022.). The venues were nicely dressed and that made for a festive looking event. The television presentation by OBS was first-rate and the camera work in many cases was beyond expectation. Thirty nations won medals. Belgium, Hungary, New Zealand, Spain, Liechtenstein, nice to see you back on the table after being gone for quite some time. his was the third straight Games that we had no first-timer, and I have to struggle to think who the next one might be. I hope we will not see the numerous changes that we have in recent Games. Great to see the American gold breakthroughs in cross-country and curling. The talent on display at the Games was astounding, It is fascinating to how some of the sports have evolved over the past decade. As usual, it was the athletes who stole the stage and shoved all the extraneous garbage aside. Thanks to the athletes for reminding us what the Games are really about and why we, even if we do not agree with the people who run the show, should give the competitors our rapt attention and support. I've been an Olympic junkie since 1980, and, even after 38 years, it is never easy to see the Games come to an end. There is always a certain emptiness for me when the emotional investment into the Games is gone. I will try something different though as I have saved most of the medal ceremonies on my DVR and I will watch a few each day before work just to get my day off to a positive beginning. It was a very enjoyable few weeks. I am glad that the Games have helped to restore some of our members' enthusiasm for the Games. I've missed a lot of you.
  6. 4 points
    Dear Tulsa - Hello from Gangneung, South Korea. As you know I am a fellow Frenchman. I will not rate Games from worst to best. I have been to six of them. All I can provide is a personnal feeling, among the six I attended, the ones I enjoyed the least are the Torino 2006 Games. The attendance to the alpine venues where I went was low, and the big city was engulfing the Olympic feeling of the Games. Does not mean they were better or worse, just a personal impression, and comparison to my previous visit to SLC. I have also to break some news to you : Albertville 92 Games were not among my best experiences either. In Albertville, I attended the Games from OC to CC, being there for sixteen days, going to up to three events a day, more than 30 events total, including all figure skating events but one. The Ceremonies were great, real breakthrough ones, but the too spread out venue plan was a logistics nightmare and removed some of the Olympic feeling by being too diluted through the Tarentaise. My best experience - no surprise there - is Lillehammer 94, you can't beat the Norwegian Games for the mood. And by the way Lillehammer was as cold or even colder than PC. I was at the 50 km and I still feel cold thinking of it. I would put PyeongChang on par with SLC in my memories. Contrary to your statement, the ten events where I went (hockey, alpine skiing, nordic skiing, bobsled, figure skating, speed skating, short track) were packed except for the best seats Here is why. I made the point for Sochi, one of the issues at the Olympics is that the best seats, reserved for Olympic family, TOP sponsors, athletes, etc are often empty, and since these are the best seats, they are more conspicuous on the broadcast. The Olympic park in Gangneung was smaller than Sochi's and was nicely crowded. Long queues at each pavilion of the sponsors showcases. I can not give enough praise to the wonderful PyeongChang volunteers ; the quality of the brand new facilities and of the venues is great - and there was snow. And free Wifi in each venue or ice rink. The compact venue plan made it easy to watch multiple events on the same day, even if you switch from Alpensia to Gangneung. You can't beat the KTX which takes you between the stations of both clusters in about 20 mn at high speed and for about 6000 wons in comfortable seats. Regarding Sochi, wonderful experience overall for me, great organisation and venues. It is only the context which makes these Games feel "Bad".
  7. 4 points
    Okay @Tulsa, are you almost over your two week, sour grapes tantrum? It’s been quite childish at times but, hey, if that’s what floats your boat, and it has added to the board activity, so I guess it’s been worthwhile in your mind, even if I doubt it’s changed even one person’s opinions. To address your original proposition - no, these have not been the worst WOGs in history, you’ll be disappointed to hear (if not accept). In all, they’ve been pretty good, well organised, lacking in major scandals, engendered a bit of positive and hopeful news out of the Korean Peninsula after a year of anything but, been more focussed on the events rather than extraneous issues and at the end more positive in spirit than many. Was it one of he best ever? Well, that’s always going to be a subjective call. Myself, I’d rate them as modesty successful but no Lillehammer (I guess I’ve just preculuded my post in the “verdict on the games” thread). Others may/will have differing opinions. Anyway, you’ve been hung up on this notion that certain countries, notably Korea and China, just aren’t fit to host a winter games and should never be given that honour. What utter arrogant bullish!t! The games belong to the world, and anyone with the means and sheer physical and geographic capability are entitled to host. They do not belong to a select group of “approved” countries. The WOGs themselves are already constrained to a smaller pool of possible hosts because of geographical and climatic requirements. But to follow your logic, that pool should be made even smaller to suit your offensively patronising cultural prerequisites. Yes, traditional winter sports countries in North America and Europe will always make good winter games hosts - and they will continue to do so for the lion’s share of WOGs in the future. But it’s important, even essential, that the less traditional locals - the Koreas and Chinas - also get their chance at times too. They need to be able to have the chance to embrace the Olympic spirit, to be exposed to the winter sports, to be given the chance to show off their societies and landscapes and hopefully be inspired to get more enthused by winter sports. And the WOGs can indeed achieve this - Japan really wasn’t a traditional winter sports country before its first WOGs, but now I see in recent posts of yours that it’s been promoted to your personal “WOG-worthy” club. It’s similar to the summer games - i would be easy to jut spread them around a small selection of advanced and venue-rich cities and nations (*cough, cough, Paris and LA) and never venture away from them ever. And, yes, there’s a legitimate debate to be had over the merits and social responsibility of less-developed and affluent cities and countries, like Rio or somewhere in Africa, hosting such an expensive extravaganza, but at the end of the day it is important and essential that they are allowed or even encouraged to share the spirit of the Olympics by hosting when their circumstances responsibly permit them. To specifically address some of your recurrent “points” of the past fortnight. Let’s take audience crowds. Okay, yeah, there were empty seats at times and not everything was packed to capacity or bursting. But that happens at EVERY games, even the most successful ones, and in winter games, even in your beloved and winter sports successful approved Western European host cities. There’s a lot of reasons why his is so - sponsor seats not being taken up, prices, travel costs etc. But there also were large contingents of enthused and respectful locals at many events, particularly those that they hold dear or had good chances in (and that’s natural, and again to be expected of any hosts). There were also decent numbers and contingents of spectators from around the world coming in to cheer their teams. And as was mentioned in other threads as well, while large crowds certainly can lift a good games to something truly special, at the end of the day it’s not the priority issue to decide on the success of a games or not. Particularly when for the overwhelming bulk of the world’s population, the games are experienced through television. The Koreans embrace of the games was average, but certainly not dire and certainly not games-wrecking. And onto climate. You’ve been railing against fake snow an barren landscape. What I saw on screen was constant mention of extreme cold and good snow cover of the venues amidst attractive wintry landscapes around. The biggest problem was a bit of wind in the first week disrupting some events. All games, and particularly the winter games, are hostage to the weather. PyeongChang wasn’t the first to use, or even the most drastically in need of using, artificial snow. Some of your beloved approved tradional hosts have had far more problems with their snow cover. In all, PyeongChang had far less snow and weather issues than many previous winter hosts. When the campaign to choose the 2018 host was in full swing I was firmly, for personal and emotional reasons, hoping for Munich. But that was not to be - que sera sera. I’m glad now, and think it was good an important, that they chose PyeongChang. For all the reasons mentioned above, I think it was essential that the IOC spread the winter games beyond the NA-Europe winter sports insider’s club. Maybe, to make a tidier list of host cities, it could have been four years earlier or four years later, bu it definitely had to happen. And Korea certainly didn’t drop the ball (or puck or whatever). Anyway, I guess for you it’s back to four years grumbling bitterly under your rock. Have fun. See you in Beijing 2022, I guess, for Round 2 of your dummy spit.
  8. 4 points
    RE: the thread title. I'd suggest the nation that ran a state sponsored doping scheme whilst hosting has a bigger claim.
  9. 4 points
    Some construction update + new renders showing new angles and proposed seat coloring
  10. 3 points
    Non-geo blocked version of the Seven presenters:
  11. 3 points
    The Banc of California Stadium is nearly finished. Is it me, or did this go up really fast?? The Coliseum renovation is moving right along... All images by STERLINGDAVISPHOTO.
  12. 3 points
    PyeongChang 2014 - & more to the point, the enabling of Munich 2018 & Oslo 2022 that would've followed it. As understandable & even laudable as the Sochi decision looked back in 2007, hindsight sadly shows it as one of the IOC's worst choices.
  13. 3 points
    I really enjoyed these Games, first on TV and then flying to Seoul and spending five days there. Mascot: a very good one, not as facetious as Hero the Hedgehog but very present at all venues, and interacting with the public Transportation: well organized, regular and dense Olympic bus network. Maybe a bit too specialized so that you had to change like four-five times to go from your hotel in Gangneung - if you could find one - to the mountain venues. The regular city bus network was free, but had limited working hours, was not working late so if coming from a late hockey match the final item of your daily routine could be a very long walk. Otherwise the taxis (alternate solution) were relatively cheap and could drop and pick you quite close to the Gangneung Olympic park North and South Gates. The KTX was the most convenient transport from Gangneung to the mountain venues (Jinbu train station), I finally found out. Not free like in Sochi, but relatively inexpensive and fast (about 20 min between Gangneung and Jinbu) compared to the Sochi - Adler - Krasnaya Polyana railway. Gangneung Olympic Park: Four venues, all brand new except curling plus a stadium which could have hosted the ceremonies without problem (why ?). Special mention for the toilets with brand new white soap bars every morning (Korean do not like soap dispensers ??). The blue plastic seats in the venues were reasonably comfortable. Seat and gate numbering was sometimes confusing, since there were often gates closer to your seat than the one indicated on your ticket. Pretty boring house of Tokyo 2020. Access to House of Beijing 2022 needing to perform on line registration three days in advance and provide your passport #. I hope it does not announce the modus operandi for these Games... Nice food and ambiance at House of Canada. Packed full superstore and McDonald's as usual. PyeongChang Olympic Park: larger than the Gangneung one, but without real venue, only the stadium, the Medal plaza, shops, exhibits and restaurants. A bit sad and too large for its function. I am sorry that the figure skating medals are no longer given in the venue but are now on the plaza like the other sports. When you have attended a figure skating competition, you are not going to drop everything to do a 3 hour trip to PyeongChang for the medal ceremony. Connected : free wifi in all venues, was working very well, even the outdoor ones. Maybe a bit distracting for some younger spectators. Saw a lot looking their iPhone or posting on social networks instead of actually watching the athletes... For some reason you had to switch off/reset the iPhone when going to another venue, the phone was not recognizing the wifi from a second venue when you had connected to a first one beforehand. Attendance : most of the venues where I went (hockey, speed skating, short track, figure skating, nordic skiing) where packed full. Alpine skiing (giant M) was half full as well as bobsled for 2. I suspect that the arenas were fuller during the second week than during the first week. Mostly Korean people in Gangneung, with a small contingent of Europeans, Canadians, Russians and Japanese. More foreign people in the mountain venues I felt. Other amenities: Loved the distribution of free heater packs and free flags from your home country. Unfortunately French flags were given out before I arrived. Food at the venues was ok but un-Korean : tuna sandwiches, sausages, hot dogs, nachos with cheese, etc. Volunteers : for me the highlight of the Games, always smiling, always helpful, I would have like to hug each of them individually, but they were far too many. And of course they survived thanks to the heaters pack they constantly had in their hands. Their mastering of English was sometimes limited but then Google translate is your friend. Security : ok but not invasive, no military guys everywhere, like in Sochi. Lots of very young policemen and women. Waiting time are security control was short. All the Olympic Park in Gangneung was in the same security perimeter. Overall I would put them from my spectator experience at the level of SLC. Not out of this world like Lillehammer but better than Torino for sure. Sochi is a special case for me because as a spectator it was wonderful, but there is the context, these Games nearly killed the Winter olympics. Also a factor to consider is that due to better health and higher salary available I could go to more events (up to three a day) than in Sochi or Torino. As said by others, congratulations to Korea and to the volunteers for excellent Games, indeed Games as they should always be. I have been following Korean bids on GamesBids since the first one for the 2010 Games and it was a great satisfaction to see them delivered so well.
  14. 3 points
    From all that I see via television coverage, PeyongChang has does a masterful job in presenting this Olympic Winter games, The venues are impressive and even spectacular. There appear to be no significant problems with any venue and it appears these are truly winter games in a winter climate with fresh snow almost daily and cold, crisp days with brilliantly blue skies. Its a far cry from Sochi where air temps sometimes reached summertime highs during several days and Alpine events were held on melting snow. The spectacular PeyongChang scenery, the thoughtful amenities provided at each venue to make events more "user friendly" for the participants, the outstanding maintenance at each venue--it all adds up to a remarkably professional and positive Olympic experience. Just watching young attendants clearing the ice of flowers and other gifts tossed to the skaters, or holding gates and doors for athletes as they arrive or depart a venue, or sweeping the shooting mats on the biathlon course--the list goes on. South Korea evidently has considered every aspect of of successful Olympic experience. It appears that in a crazy world PeyongChang has masterfully create a truly joyful Olympic experience free from scandal, major glitches or significant mistakes. I hope those remarkable facilities continue to host world competitions for decades to come and continue to bring prosperity to that region. South Korea has done an outstanding job. And the 2018 winter sports facilities give rise to the argument that the games deserve a permanent home with the very best of facilities. PeyngChang fits the bill. Those venues deserved to see another winter games in the near future.
  15. 3 points
    Torino was noted for a lot of empty seats as well.
  16. 3 points
    In this new age, it's very good and necessary to spread the love of sports (especially new kind of sports) to many new regions. Winter sports have been so restrictive in its nature but that doesn't mean people in certain areas shouldn't be hosting or promoting it. It's not going to take just one Olympics event to spark the interest with this kind of sports but it's a very good start to change such culture. I don't like the idea of keeping the games in certain regions all the times because they're more popular there than elsewhere and in the end the rest of the world will continue to perceive Winter Sports as something impossible and distant that only Europeans and North Americans can master. They have been hosting Winter Games there for a long time. It's very rare to have Asian countries to host Winter Olympics and after Beijing 2022 I don't think there will be more anytime soon so it's a good thing to promote this kind of games here in this continent.
  17. 3 points
    Hi Tulsa, long time no see. Great Games, eh? Pyeongchang revived my interest in the Games after Sochi killed it. Hope you're enjoying the Olympics from your mountaintop in Annecy. Lol.
  18. 3 points
  19. 3 points
    New fly-through video posted yesterday of LAX's automated people-mover, scheduled to start construction this year, to be completed by 2023:
  20. 3 points
    Wow! Just read Rob Livingstone’s #GamesBids tweet, and it turned out that was him, CAF, Olympian2004 and StefanMuc in the Oktoberfest spew segment. Good onya guys, you did the board proud and brought a lump to my throat! Thought it was a classy touch having the country names in the parade of nations engraved on the bier steins carried by the busty waitresses. Pity the poor lass who had to carry the “Olympic Athletes from Russia” steins, but at least she had big enough bazoongas to support them all.
  21. 3 points
    Overall, I was happy with what I saw. I kept my expectations a little lower, given the stadium itself, as well as the country's budget being far lower than Sochi, but overall, I was happy. I did not find myself getting chills up my arms like I did during Beijing or Rio, but I still enjoyed the show. Here are a few summed up positives and negatives, for me: Pros Seatback Lighting. I really like the use of this during ceremonies, and I really like how they used it during the Parade of Nations. Also distracted from the open seats throughout the venue. Parade of Nations. I loved the incorporation of popular Korean songs, including "Hand in Hand" from Seoul 1988. It also went much faster, which is something I hope we can keep for future Games. Sometimes they just seem entirely too long. The kids. I always love when kids are the main focus of the ceremony, which leads me into my next point Focus on the future. I was praying they wouldn't go the historical route and end up repeated Nagano 1998, and I was very glad they didn't. Plus, it gave the world a good glimpse into what Korea is trying to be, and I think they should be proud of themselves for it, like they were in 1988. Cauldron Lighting. I am very glad Yuna Kim did it, I expected no one else. Fireworks. For some reason I liked these much better than Sochis, which was odd. Much more variety. The ski/snowboard/drone video, definitely a major highlight was the rings made by drones Unified Korea. While it may have been a political stunt, it was surely an Olympic moment, and it was definitely a sight to see. Cons Somewhat disorganized. Videos and performances didn't seem to follow any sort of narrative or story, and it was confusing to bounce back between old Korea and future Korea. The amount of videos. I would've been somewhat disappointed/pissed if I got all the way out there to spend most of my time in my seat watching a video I could've been bundled up on my couch watching. Somewhat Lackluster. None of the performances really made me say "wow, what I would do to be there right now". The Unified Korea and Yuna Kim had that affect for me, but no musical or theatrical performance, which was weird for me. In London, during the entire part devoted to British music, I continuously thought "oh what I would do to be in London right now, singing the Beatles at the Olympics", and in Rio, "oh what I would do to see Gizelle Bundchen walk to 'The Girl from Ipanema' in front of mock favelas". Nothing like that here. The NBC broadcasting. I was very upset that certain parts of the ceremony were cut from the NBC broadcast due to "time constraints", but they HAD to send over an hour, if not more, of the allotted three doing interviews/descriptions of Team USA members. I know that's where the money lies and many in the US only care about Team USA, but I am very upset that I now have to go watch a version without commentary at a later date in order to see the full ceremony. Empty seats. Very unfortunate to see, and as stated, they tried to cover it up, but it was apparent that that stadium was not filled. Overall though, I was happy with the show. Maybe it's my optimistic nature, or the length of time between the Games that allows me to be much less critical when they come on for the first time (I will get critical when the hype goes away), but I was happy. What matters is if the OC spoke to South Koreans and the nearby Chinese, because if it did, then ticket sales will rise for people trying to get to last minute events or maybe even the closing ceremony, and Pyeongchang needs that boost right now. I'm excited for more Olympic events though!
  22. 3 points
    Calgary is going to bid. Canada sent a ministerial delegation, the GG, Mayor Nenshi and almost the entire COC executive. Canada is bidding.
  23. 3 points
  24. 3 points
    Now I will recapitulate the Rings Formations segments on the Opening Ceremonies of the WG. Sarajevo 1984. It seems to be the very first ring formation segment for the WG. Calgary 1988. There were not a ring formation segment itself, but ther were made up by the attending audience by wearing those ponchos creating the olympic flag as a human mosaic. Also they made up the year "88" from the Look of the Games. Albertville 1992. There were not a ring formation segment either, but they were projected on the floor. I think, the very first rings projections in an Opening Ceremony. Lillehammer 1994. Despite it was not a segment itself, the rings formation was made up by the children choir forming a human mosaic wich was present at the beggining and during the parade of nations. Salt Lake 2002. One of the most original and innovative rings formation ever: rings of fire on ice. It was replied two years after in Athens by forming fire rings on water. Torino 2006. A high tech rings formation. After a choreography of the "sparks of passion" where (yet not) rings got up and down, finally they were unified along a fireworks display. It was a splendid background for the Nations Parade. One of the most memorable ring formation ever! Vancouver 2010. With not a ring formation segment, the beggining of the ceremony was starred by the snowboardist jumping through the snow exploding rings which gave us a stunning footage of that Opening Ceremony. Sochi 2014. Probably the comented most rings formation ever by the media due to the big fail: One of the rings did not open! It was supossed to set them in a fireworks display after their formation but they didn't. Russian TV aired images of the dress rehearsal to "heal" that moment.... For the closing ceremony they made a parody of that fail! Like it was supposed to be The parody at the Closing Ceremony making fun of themselves... BONUS TRACK My favorite rings formation ever One of the most iconic footages of all Olympic Ceremonies. Los Angeles 1984 rings with those golden balloons still is one of the most amazing shoots ever! Beijing 2008. Due to its huge originality and the wow factor... The rings seemed to be coming out from the screen on the floor... Amazing! On the other hand it's the simplicity but not out of originality. The Rio 2016 rings formation by the trees and the expliding confettis is one of the most memorable ones.
  25. 3 points
    Shhhhhhhh I finally have time now that it's the weekend Thank you all for your kind words, I really don't know what to say haha. Contrary to what some others may think, I think this year's competition was great; I loved the beautiful gradients in Bernham's, I loved how incredibly well Paul ran his unconventional theme, I loved the perfection and polish of Davey's, I loved the tacky cliche of Rol's star, and how "American" Glacib's logo feels. And as for David's? Hey, I'm a sucker for the Dodgers It was a tight race, and I feel honored that mines somehow pulled through till the end. Thanks, guys! Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be trademarking my little hot dog so I'll be able to charge the IOC some big bucks later on PS. Nevermind the babbling cabbage, Yoshi. I think you ran the comp wonderfully
  26. 3 points
    OK, let's gooooo...take it away Marc! Thank you to T-Rex for kicking us off (just go with it, we got a TARDIS), & a warm welcome to the eleventh Annual GamesBids Olympic Logo Design Comp, launching somewhat early due to the IOC deciding that there really is such a thing as an offer you can't refuse. Anyway, before we get going it's only right & proper to properly thank the comp's two legends: Thatsnotmypuppy, Pikachu, thank you for creating this idea initially, & Sir Rols, Fatso (it's the wombat's name, ok), thank you for bringing it to this point & for being the general good egg/sounding board once again here. If this hits the heights of those previous events, I'd be more amazed than if Portugal won Eurovision. Wait... Right then, I'm tempted to sue T-Rex under the Trade Descriptions Act, because this isn't a revolution, it's a continuation - there'll be no wild experimentation this time *board exhales*. We have the traditional logo comp format - one summer city & one winter one. To introduce them, we have a couple of special guests, so to introduce our summer city for 2017, please welcome Mister RANDY NEWMAN! LOS ANGELES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 2028 That looks more wintry than intended...oh well. Yes, we are continuing with a grand tradition dating back to comps for Rio 2016, Tokyo 2020, & even Paris 2024 (eat that, Nostradamus), with an aim of showing the future organisers how it should be done, & maybe get into a few Google Image Searches along the way. This is America's Olympic (& entertainment) capital, one of the world's most famous cities, so surely there's plenty to draw from to create a 2028 logo that can follow on from the iconic Stars In Motion: as Tinseltown prepares to make its third mark on the Olympic history books. And who knows, maybe with the help of Google, you might even be able to fool some people that your logo really is the real deal So, summing up, we want a host city logo for the Games of the XXIV Olympiad in Los Angeles in 2028. Who knows, they might already be looking. But it is not just summer. As is tradition, there's a winter bit too, and to introduce that, please welcome our next special guest, and it's a big one - ladies & gentlemen, Mister BILLY JOEL! (Yes, I know it's out of date, but don't worry, Vlad isn't playing #ThrowbackThursday again - you try finding a song called St Petersburg :p) SAINT PETERSBURG, RUSSIAN FEDERATION 2030 Yes, it's the Cold War of logo comps which brings us to the second city of Russia - so good they named it 3 times, and a city that has actually bid for the Winter Games before. Ok, it was for 1994, it was still in the USSR, it was still called Leningrad, & nothing came of it (except a mascot apparently) but other than that, everything's the same. Whatever, the city's rich history should lend itself well to producing some great Winter Olympic logos - at least compared to the last Olympic logo from post-Soviet Russia: The bar is set low Again, to sum up, we want a host city logo for the XXVI Winter Olympic Games in St Petersburg in 2030. Don't fry your brain thinking about how they'd actually stage the thing. ------------------------------------------------------- Next bit - the general rules, advice, stuff etc that hasn't really changed from previous years: We are after logos for that encompass the overall feel of the city and local influences that can be tied into a design concept. How can any of these cities articulate graphically what they could bring to future Olympics hosting? What flavour will they bring to the games? What will Vlad & Donald think of it? The logos should be presented as full colour designs on white background. If you like, however, they can also be presented in black and white or utilised in forms like street banners, t-shirts, apps, vehicles, pins etc. For voting purposes, the main (colour) logo will be used on the polls, & extra stuff is not obligatory, but any extra material you produce may help you “sell” your design better to the wider GamesBids voting membership. These logos are for HOST cities. So you can use the rings, and don't need to include the words “Candidate City, Olympic Games 2028/30” or whatever the IOC want this week. Post your preliminary submissions on this thread. If you want to hold anything back to be presented as a “surprise” when voting starts you can contact me or Rols via PM and I'll tell you where you can send the extra material. However, it would be nice to see as many on-thread submissions as possible for people to chew over in-thread. Feel free to post as many logo designs as you like, & to ask for feedback from our famously discerning electorate. If you really can't decide between your own designs, feel free to start a poll (or to ask for one to be started). When the time comes for voting, however, you will be asked to settle on ONE official logo in each category (winter and summer) as your official entry. The competition is open to all members of GamesBids, or to any new legitimate members who join before the end of the submission period. I, with consultation, will rule on the legitimacy of new members. As you would expect, I will rule on any disputes - always aiming to be as fair as possible in the process. As always, just remember, this is all meant to be fun. Olympic spirit, remember?. Hopefully this will spark up some action on the board. I'll be dipping in, keeping a close eye on things, but otherwise will try and keep hands (paws?) off until the polling stages. The deadline for submissions is 12PM London time on IOC decision confirmation day, SEPTEMBER 13, 2017 - so hopefully the lead-up to this will spark some board activity. We will thus begin the road to 2024/8/6 too awkward - hopefully with activity from the session's aftermath with the voting for short lists, followed by the final round polls. And this is just to alert @Rob. to the existence of the new comp in the hope that he'll do his traditional bit of putting up links to various free design programs etc for the benefit of those who want to take part but may not have the facility at the moment. All that is left to say is thank you Rols once again, and to all participants for having the guts to put your logos up for the annual GamesBids dissection, & may the best logos win. GOOD LUCK/удачи!
  27. 3 points
    Ladies & gentlemen, welcome to St Petersburg! That's Boney M getting us started with their ode to the most historically famous Putin of them all. Ladies and Gentlemen, Madames et Monsieurs, good evening & добро пожаловать to the Winter Palace in St Petersburg, where we are gathered to crown the tsar our winner in this winter section of the 11th GB Olympic Logo Comp. I hope you have enjoyed taking part & voting, & the journey around Russia that we have had. Consider it practise for 2018. As is traditional, I would like to take the opportunity to thank everyone who entered. It is never easy to design an Olympic logo, & even harder to design one for such a tough & discerning audience as the one we find here. Talking of whom, thanks to you as well - without your votes there would be no comp - I hope this has given something to do on the board in this barren period. All told, the one thing that's certain is that when a winner is crowned, they are fully deserving. And it is now time to crown that winner. To make the announcement, please welcome the only man who could possibly do the job here. We've heard from him throughout, now he's on stage, the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin! *For clarification, Mr Putin is the one on the top.* Vlad: Thank you, thank you. I am finally in charge now, now I can decide the logo for Leningrad...*has chat* Oh, right, votes. Interesting idea. Ok, so apparently the votes are counted and have been verified by our completely transparent & independent people who deal with such things. They were even there for all to see, no need to hack anything, very easy. Well, I suppose all I can say is...the winner is... VIK-ski! Yoshi: Thank you Mr President. By the way, who is this Kim you keep talking about? Never knew you liked Belgian women's tennis. Anyway the big thing is...Congratulations @VIK! Our flying Finn has taken the title with his very first (and only for now) post on the board. A remarkable achievement - you now join that long list of champions in my (& Rols') signature. For the records, the final result of Round 4 was: A: 6 B: 4 C 1. A small, but clear, majority means that we have our winner! And that's it from Russia - but not before I once again thank everyone involved, especially @Sir Rols for his support in once again starting the polls and providing the pic of old Vlad above. And of course telling me not to be too worried about the numbers of logos/votes. Thanks mate OK, well, there's hot & cold running vodka in the bar next door. I am going to leave a day's cooling off for our hangovers, and also for anyone who hasn't yet to get a last-minute LA 2028 entry in. But after that, we will be headed across the Atlantic for our Summer escapade. I'm sure Donald will give us a warm...um...welcome. See you in Hollywood! Quote
  28. 3 points
    I'm just glad they haven't wasted this opportunity to award both cities.
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  30. 3 points
    I wonder how LA executes the dual stadium Opening Ceremony concept. This should be interesting. One thing for certain, the opening ceremony will be under broad daylight (assuming a 6pm start to accommodate east coast viewers). If I was Garcetti, I would start the ceremony at the LA Coliseum (introduce the President and National Anthem), bring the artistic portion to Hollywood Park (for the theatrical darkness), the parade of nations and speeches back at the LA Coliseum, host a couple of musical performers back in Inglewood, and finally light the cauldron at the Coliseum. For the final leg of the torch relay, the flame is bought into Hollywood Park shortly after the artistic portion and takes a lap. It runs through the streets of South LA during the parade of nations, amid cheering crowds before entering the Coliseum. Hollywood Park hosts the entertainment aspect of the ceremony, LA Coliseum hosts the Olympic proceedings and parade of nations. Fans will get to choose which part of the ceremony they'll attend.
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    My starting point was of course the city itself. St. Petersburg is cultural capital and has rich cultural heritage, which includes palaces, cathedrals, churches, gardens, sculptures and monuments. From all this information I realized that I want logo who reflects the authenticity and the classic vibe of the city. I found out about the khokhloma- Russian wood painting style and national ornament, which is known for its vivid flower patterns, and the effect it has when applied to wooden tableware or furniture, making it look heavier and metal-like. I want the athletes who will come to the olympics to feel the same thing on them- to be tougher and stronger like metal. To create more connection to the olympics, I chose to use the olympic flame, which represent the inner fire of any athlete, their passion and energy.
  33. 3 points
    "E-games" certainly are the total opposite of engaging in sport, which is what the Olympics are about TBW. 'Sitting' behind a video game console is not what constitutes an athlete anyway.
  34. 3 points
    City of Champions stadium. It's got the best initials ever imo. It will be built in Inglewood and host the OC and CC.
  35. 3 points
    Nearly everyone in every Olympic city says "traffic will be terrible!" and then they're proven wrong. Having lived through the Olympics in my backyard (Vancouver in 2010), those 2 weeks were the easiest weeks for driving ever. LOL! Foot traffic, sidewalks, and plazas were very busy though.
  36. 3 points
    June 22 - 23 #ParisParcOlympique will come to life for #OlympicDay - an amazing celebration in of Paris #Paris2024
  37. 3 points
    Actually the Ceremonies planners and the Look/Imagery sections of POCOG will care. it gives this edition of the Games a more historic hook.
  38. 3 points
    When the story of this election comes to be written by the academics and historians, it will take them a very long time to sift through all the mixed messages of what is a quite extraordinary result. Our government as a whole is now clearly weaker as a result of the failure of all the parties to convince enough of the electorate and that will have implications for the Brexit negotiations going forward. Yet, with the losses incurred by the Scottish National Party, it seems to me that the future of our own union of nations appears to be safer now than it was. I voted Conservative both in 2010 and 2015, and was confident that Theresa May would be a good prime minister when she took office last summer. But, the more I saw of her in this campaign, the less impressed I was. There are too many reasons why I felt I couldn't vote for her party this time round but the main one was a fundamental lack of confidence in her as a leader of my country that goes far beyond the Brexit negotiations to come. What has made me even more angry, however, is the way in which she has sought to carry on regardless. I understand that, as leader of the largest party, she gets first crack at forming a government. But, having endured such a substantial reverse, she ought to be reaching out and modifying her course. Instead, she appears oblivious to the fact her political credibility is shot to pieces and someone in the Tory party is going to have to put the country first and get her out. Just as long as it isn't Boris.
  39. 3 points
    Oh dear, what a dilemma. If only there were some way to award LA the 2028 Games this year so they wouldn't have to hurry the subway ...
  40. 3 points
    They're all talking about their fond memories of the 1984 Games, because LA's mayor was there and apparently two people from the Evaluation Commission participated in those Games. I bet it's not going to be the same when they visit Paris, and you all know why. That's why LA can wait a little bit longer. Paris has waited long enough. Paris 2024 Los Angeles 2028
  41. 3 points
    I went out tonight and took a few pics of some of the buildings in LA that were lit up in the bid logo colors. Los Angeles City Hall and Grand Park fountain The Broad Museum Disney Hall Wilshire Grand Center
  42. 3 points
    So much for truff wanting Le Pen to win to "neutralize" the trump factor.
  43. 2 points
    Each had 10 stadiums which is more or less the standard for a lone WC host. Also I guess it wasn't a good WC for you because France kicked the bucket on the first round
  44. 2 points
    I thought it was already a bit much with that segment re-creating Bach winning his fencing medal, but when he actually ended up being the cauldron lighter as well......
  45. 2 points
    Just some minutes away from another Olympic Opening Ceremony, this time I will recapitulate some Winter Games cauldrons and the way how they were lit.... Inssbruck 1976. The distinctive feature of this lit, was the second cauldron. Since the caudron in Innsbruck was lit for a second time just with 12 years apart. In 2012 a third cauldron was added due to the Winter YOG. Lake Placid 1980. The first mechanical winter Cauldron. After it was lit, it went up to the top pf the structure. Sarajevo 1984. Lit by Sadra Dubravcic, the torch entered the stadium by a skier and then it gets the cauldron after a colorfull display while she was ascending.... Calgary 1988. Another mechanical Cauldron lit by, then 12 years old skier, Robbyn Perry who was announced as a "future Olympian" (was she?) at McMahon Stadium. Albertville 1992. The soccer player Michel Platini lit the caudron with a, then 5 years old, boy at the "Theatres des ceremonies" Lilllehammer 1994. The conical cauldron was lit by the Prince Haakon Magnus after the toch entered the natural snow stage by an unforgetable sky jump executed by Stein Gruben. In 2016, 22 years after, his daughter the Princess Ingrid Alexandra lit the same cauldron for the 2016 WInter YOG Nagano 1998 The world champion figure skater Midori Ito lit the multicolor Japanese cauldron. Salt Lake 2002. The Ice hockey golden medalist team of Lake Placid 1980, lit the cauldron led by the captain Mike Eruzione. Personally speaking, my favorite Winter Cauldron. Torino 2006. Stefania Belmondo lit the tallest Winter cauldron so far by a spectacular fireworks display. Vancouver 2010. The innovative factor was a second cauldron was lit downtown by Wayne Gretzky , being this second one, the cauldron that people could visit. It's remembered the fail at the moment of the lit since one of the four poles that were part of the cauldron, did not lift. At the closing ceremony they made fun of this fail prior to the ceremony. Sochi 2014. The second cauldron outside the stadium is located at the center of the Olympic Park. Lit by hockey player Vladislav Tretiak and the figure skater Irina Rodnina. PyeongChang 2018. This cauldron is inspired by the Korean pottery. At the moment of this post we still don't know who is going to lit it and how... (despite some spoiler pics gave us an idea) NOW IT'S THE TIME!!! LET'S ENJOY ANOTHER OLYMPIC CEREMONY!!!
  46. 2 points
    I just heard from Ruff. She's either entering into a partnership with the short-lived Anthony "Corleone" Scaramnga; or entering a nunnery of defrocked French Benedictine nuns.
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  48. 2 points
    In my humble opinion, I adore this presentation, however I may not have that "refined modern culture" as a certain user who pretends being brighter than others.
  49. 2 points
    I have decided to share information I have collected on US TV broadcasts of the Olympics. Here is some information on CBS's coverage of the 1960 Squaw Valley Games: VIIIth OLYMPIC WINTER GAMES SQUAW VALLEY 1960 ABC (withdrew) CBS Rights Fee: $50,000 Production Costs: $450,000 15 Hours Executive Producer: Sig Mickelson Director of Operations: Gilbert P. Wyland Host: Walter Cronkite Opening and Closing Ceremonies: Walter Cronkite Reporters: Chris Schenkel (skiing, ski jumping) Bud Palmer (Ice Hockey) Dick Button (figure skating) Analysts: Andrea Mead Lawrence (skiing) Giancarlo Rossini (skiing) Art Devlin (ski jumping) Features: Harry Reasoner Thursday, February 18 -- 7:30 PM - 8:00 PM (All times ET) Opening Ceremony Friday, February 19 -- 11:15 PM - 11:30 PM Skiing - Men’s Downhill Saturday, February 20 -- 1:00 PM - 2:00 PM Skiing - Women’s Downhill -- 4:30 PM - 6:00 PM Skiing - Women’s Downhill Speed Skating - Women’s 500m Figure Skating - Pairs Competition Sunday, February 21 -- 2:00 PM - 5:00 PM Skiing - Men’s Giant Slalom Ski Jumping - 60m Monday, February 22 -- 11:15 PM - 11:30 PM Speed Skating - Women’s 1000m Tuesday, February 23 -- 7:30 PM - 8:30 PM Figure Skating - Women’s Free Program -- 11:15 PM - 11:30 PM Highlights Wednesday, February 24 -- 11:15 PM - 11:30 PM Speed Skating - Men’s 500m Thursday, February 25 -- 11:15 PM - 11:30 PM Figure Skating - Men’s Compulsory Program Friday, February 26 -- 9:00 PM - 10:00 PM Figure Skating - Men’s Free Program -- 12:00 AM - 12:15 AM Highlights Saturday, February 27 -- 4:30 PM - 7:00 PM Ice Hockey - USA vs. USSR Sunday, February 28 -- 2:00 PM - 5:00 PM Ice Hockey - USA vs. Czechoslovakia Ski Jumping - 90m Review of Games Closing Ceremony The Thrill of Victory... by Burt Randolph Sugar "TV ‘found’ the Olympics when CBS News paid $50,000 for the rights to televise the 1960 Winter Olympics from Squaw Valley, California...anchored by Walter Cronkite. Suddenly the American Ice Hockey team, skaters David Jenkins and Carol Heiss...were seen by more people than had witnessed the...previous games combined. They were instant stars and television had an ideal quadrennial program." The World Comes Together in Your Living Room: The Olympics on TV internet article by Joseph Gallant (notquite@hotmail.com) "On February 18th, 1960, the 8th Olympic Winter Games opened in Squaw Valley, California, the first Olympics to be held in North America since 1932. In addition to some 1,000 athletes and several thousands spectators, the opening ceremonies were watched by several CBS television cameras, marking the beginning of television coverage of the Olympic Games on American Television. "The anchorman for these first televised Olympics was Walter Cronkite, and several CBS sports reporters did play-by-play of various events and a handful of CBS newsmen were dispatched to Squaw Valley to interview medal-winners and dignitaries. "Considering how extensive television coverage of the Olympics has become, and how much broadcast rights fees nowadays go for, it may surprise many that CBS paid just $50,000 for broadcast rights to Squaw Valley (and spent another $450,000 for production) and that the network broadcast just fifteen hours of coverage. "Despite the favorable time difference, not much of the coverage was live. For one thing, on most weeknights, CBS had just a half-hour in prime-time (sometimes an hour) and another 15 minutes at 11:15 P.M. (Eastern and Pacific times). Thus, most of what was seen were edited highlights, making use of the then-newly-developed art of videotape editing. "CBS, however, did air live a handful of events, most notably some figure skating, and the final two games of the ice hockey tournament--the U.S. against the Soviet Union, and the U.S. against Czechoslovakia. The U.S. hockey team, who had lost the gold-medal game to the Russians four years earlier at Cortina, Italy, were not expected to medal at Squaw Valley. But after winning two games against weak opposition, Team U.S.A. stunned Canada, and then, on the second-to-last day of the Olympics, upset the Russians. The next morning, the final day of the Squaw Valley Games, the U.S. came back from a 4-3 deficit after two periods to score six straight goals in the final period to cement a 9-4 win and the gold medal--America's FIRST "Miracle On Ice."" Carrying the Torch... by CBS Television Network (This is a rare promotional booklet printed by CBS to promote its Rome Games coverage.) "...the CBS Television Network performed during its exclusive coverage of the Eighth Olympic Winter Games in Squaw Valley, California, during the closing days of February. "Each day for weeks in advance a 61-man team of CBS Television Network technicians and cameramen, operating on skis and snowshoes, worked from dawn to dusk burying 30,000 feet of cable under a blanket of snow covering two-square miles, establishing camera locations along the sheer slopes of the surrounding mountains, and moving the cameras into position by ski-lift and snow tractor. (Only by establishing such positions was it possible for the viewer to keep the skiers constantly in view.) "Nor was there any way of knowing ahead of time whether or not a blizzard would sweep over the landscape at the last minute, damaging hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and making a shambles of the entire venture. "It is more than a mere figure of speech to suggest that the task of bringing the events of Squaw Valley into millions of homes, thousands of miles distant from the scene of the events, required of television the kind of faith that can move mountains. "From the point of view of the medium’s importance to the economy, the Olympic broadcasts earned for their sponsor, the well-known French automobile company Renault, Inc., the interest and respect of a cast segment of the American people. During the average minute that the 14 broadcasts were on the air, they absorbed the undivided attention of some 20 million viewers. More people watched these broadcasts than the combined viewers of all the other programs on the air at the same time. "The Eighth Olympic Winter Games closed on Sunday, February 28. On the following Saturday, the network presented an hour-long broadcast reviewing the highlights of the games under the sponsorship of four well-known advertisers, The American Oil Company, Carter Products, Hill’s Bros., and the P. Lorillard Co. "Altogether the network’s cameras ground out 45 hours of "live", taped, and filmed action from which emerged the 15 hours of programming that were seen on the air. In two instances the official Olympic judges viewed a videotape of the contests to determine whether to allow claims of foul. In each case the claim was disallowed." The Real McKay by Jim McKay "It was the worst possible timing, because right at this point, CBS asked me to work on the 1960 Winter Olympics in Squaw Valley, California, the first ever to be televised in this country. It would be a great event, with Walter Cronkite as host. I would do commentary on ski racing, one of the biggest events in the Games. "Two days later, on a Sunday morning at home, I showed Margaret my hands. They were shaking and I didn’t know why. Margaret called a neighborhood doctor, who assured me that I was just burned out, that a couple of weeks in Florida and some new tranquilizing pills he would give me would get me straightened out in no time. "The advice almost ended my career. Margaret booked us a room in the famous Breakers Hotel in Palm Beach (where she scrounged the money from I still don’t know), and we left by train. (My problem had also made me terrified of flying.) The very thought of riding in a ski lift or walking down a mountainside made me feel dizzy. So we told CBS that I had pneumonia and couldn’t go to the Olympics. "I thought I had missed my biggest opportunity. "I had depression, all right, which was made worse by my having to watch Chris Schenkel do the ski racing, which would have been my assignment. (I couldn’t have known that Chris and I would go on to do several Olympics together at ABC, which, in 1960, hardly had a sports department worthy of the name.)" Here is good clip of how CBS coverage looked and sounded: Tune in tomorrow for CBS coverage of the Rome 1960 Summer Games!
  50. 2 points
    NO ONE click on that link. It opens up a spam site as well as the actual site. Also it adds nothing of value and we've alredy read or discussed everything that's been mentioned.