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Potential Olympic Stadium Locations Current Capacity Future Capacity Public Transport Accessibility Albion Park Albion (3.1km from Brisbane City) - Plenty of space for a new stadium Train and Bus (Bowen Hills Train Station 1.4km away) THE GABBA Woolangabba (3.1km from Brisbane City) 42,000 Restricted space for expansion of current stadium footprint Train and Bus (New Cross River Train Line under construction will have an underground station at the Gabba) Mayne Rail Complex Bowen Hills (3.5km from Brisbane City) - Plenty of space for a new stadium Train and Bus. (Exhibition Train Station 210m away) QSAC (QEII) Stadium Nathan (13km from Brisbane City) 48,500 Can be increased to 60,000 with temporary seating Bus (Banoon Train Station 3km away) Brisbane Showgrounds Bowen Hills (3.1km from Brisbane City) - Plenty of space for a new stadium Train and Bus (Exhibition Train Station at this venue)

Kindly allow me to bring you up to speed .... The topics in this thread are .... ..... wait for it .... its a big suprise .... all things Brisbane/SEQ 2032. All ok now?

Point taken. I should rephrase: The IOC is not going to entertain consecutive Winter and Summer Games from the same country 2 years apart. The Spanish Olympic Committee need to decide which one they are going to focus on.

Welcome to what a thread is. Discussion, debate, promotion or disregarding of ideas or points of view.

New 80,000-seat Brisbane stadium central to 2032 Olympics bid (This story from ‘Austadiums’ appeared around the time the Brisbane/SEQ 2032 delegation was meeting with the IOC in Lausanne) Source: Austadiums | Wednesday 11th September 2019 https://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=695 Details for Brisbane’s bid for the 2032 Olympics have been revealed, with a new world-class 80,000-seat stadium central to the plans. It comes as an Australian delegation met with Olympics powerbrokers in Switzerland, with Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk telling the congregation that Queensland would stage a “safe and welcoming” Olympic Games. The new stadium would host the athletics and opening and closing ceremonies of a south east Queensland Games. Potential locations for the new venue include the RNA Showgrounds, QEII Stadium at Nathan, the Mayne Rodd Rail Yards at Bowen Hills and Albion Park. The masterplan also includes two athletes villages - one in Brisbane and the other on the Gold Coast - a faster rail network linking the region and a second M1 Highway between the Gold Coast and Brisbane. Specific details of the new stadium or other venues to be used as part of a Brisbane Olympic are yet to be revealed, however Suncorp Stadium, the Gabba, Queensland Tennis Centre and the Sleeman Sports Complex would likely be part of the bid. The Brisbane Aquatic Centre, Entertainment Centre & QEII Stadium, among others, are already considered dated facilities and would need work to be considered. There’s also a host of facilities on the Gold Coast built or upgraded as part of the 2018 Commonwealth Games that could feature. If the IOC likes what it hears, Queensland will proceed on its final bid, which will go before the IOC just before the Tokyo Olympics in July next year. A final decision would then be likely by 2022. China and Russia loom as the main rivals to a Queensland bid. Shanghai and St Petersburg also are understood to be readying bids for 2032. If Brisbane was to host the Olympics, it would be the third Games held in Australia, with Melbourne the first in 1956 and Sydney the most recent in 2000. (end of story) ——————————————————————————————————————————————————————— It should be noted that Australian Olympic Committee President, John Coates, said there was no requirement for a new 80,000-seat stadium in Brisbane, arguing a smaller venue could be built. "The maximum is 60,000, that's what's been provided in Tokyo, that's what London provided," he said. "And that could be a stadium that could reduce to a lesser amount afterwards, depending on what the legacy is going to be - no requirement for 80,000." For the Tokyo Olympic Games in 2020, Japan is building a 68,000-seat stadium with a capacity of more than 80,000 using temporary seating. (by Felicity Caldwell, Brisbane Times, 11:30am September 11, 2019) https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/queensland/queensland-does-not-need-new-80-000-seat-olympics-stadium-coates-20190911-p52q69.html

A much bigger question is that Madrid needs to sort out what it wants more. Is Madrid going for the 2030 Winter Games or the 2032 Summer Games? The IOC has already said Madrid it will not be successful to go for both Games only 2 years apart.

Your post should be in ‘Madrid 2032’.

Yes, it would be nice to have a bigger Gabba who capacity is currently only 42,000. The bid team (Premier Palasczuk) certainly considering it for at least the Opening Ceremony but its capacity for the big opening party is perhaps too limited even for that with further seating reduction with theatrical staging, etc. For the Athletics Track & Field, its anybody’s guess as to whether the final decision will be: - a new stadium with temporary seating to lift capacity to close to 60,000, - an upgraded stadium such as QSAC (formerly QE11) with or without temporary seating (as occurred in 1982 for the CW Games), or - a new stadium with permanent seating capacity (similar to Perth’s new Optus Stadium where cricket and football have happily moved to and regularly fill it).

As of right now? How do you know that? The feasibility study was released a year ago. Do you really think that the Candidature File is not going to have all the required detail? You have no idea of the Stadium developments behind the scenes nor any tenant or legacy proposals for the Stadium nor any other planned new venues. Brisbane/SEQ 2032 do not report to you nor the media. This will all be released soon enough at the appropriate time. It still is a competitive bidding race after all and right now Brisbane/SEQ 2032 are all over it. Brisbane/SEQ 2032 is widely acknowledged to be clearly the front runner - you seem to be in denial about this. From the words of the IOC President Bach himself who, while with the Queensland delegation in Lausanne 4 months ago, publicly announced that the 2032 Host may be elected early. The Games would indeed be in safe hands once again in Australia, following the safe hands of LA, Paris, Tokyo, etc. If Brisbane is elected Host ahead of Tokyo 2020, that’s it, game over for anyone else who are all lagging way behind in this new bidding era. You may not like this reality, but thats the actual reality right now. This is new the era of bidding. What happened in Tokyo is what happened in Tokyo. But the IOC is happy with what they have seen so far with Sydney’s 2000 Rowing venue at Penrith listed one year ago as the backup flatwater/whitewater rowing venues if a new one in Queensland does not occur. Not a problem. The IOC is also happy with Paris 2024 having the surfing competition Tahiti halfway around the globe. Not a problem. All that Brisbane/SEQ 2032 need to worry about is complying with Agenda 2020 (part 1) and the New Norm (part 2) IOC bidding procedures. That they are doing, but do not expect to know everything that has been done since the release of the Feasibility Study a year ago to be released right now. You’ll just have to wait.

There is nothing desperate about this Bid. The genesis of where Brisbane/SEQ 2032 is now, really started 4 years ago when the Prefeasibility Study was conducted by the SEQ Mayors about a possible bid for 2028. Then came in early 2019 the release of the 2032 Feasibility and People Mass Movement Studies. The 2032 Bid Team have not been sitting idle ‘whistling Dixie’ since then. Remember too, a Feasibility Study is just that - it is NOT the official Olympic Candidature file. You must realise also that under the IOC’s New Norm changes passed last year, is that the IOC Future Bid Commission must be convinced of the detail of the legacy and sustainability of any planned New Venues. Brisbane/SEQ 2032 are not widely considered to be the front-runners for having sat on their hands. They started way early, compared to their Bid rivals, and have been boosted by support from: - Sydney 2000 officials, - 2018 Commonwealth Games on the Gold Coast, - the IOC President visiting Australia last year, - 2019 Sport Accord on the Gold Coast, - Australian Olympic Committee, - all three levels of government, - the main opposition party in Queensland, - leading sporting identities, - the passing of the latest New Norm bidding changes by the IOC Session mid-2019, and - the Bid team visiting IOC HQ in September, and - the accompanying IOC President’s public declaration during that that visit of a possible early 2032 vote. Just because you cannot see the detail yourself right now, does not mean all three levels of government are not working on it and have been doing done so for a considerable amount of time. The Bid team have to persuade the IOC’s Future Bid Commission, not you or me.

Olympic Candidature File to be Presented to IOC Before Tokyo Olympic Games in July 2020 AOC President, John Coates said, on 9 December 2019, that the OCLG will now work through governance arrangements and the next necessary steps in compiling a Candidature File which would be presented to the International Olympic Committee before the Tokyo Olympic Games in July 2020.

As I said, watch this space for when the Bid details are revealed in the Olympic Candidature file in a few months. You are only reading the feasability study. The feasability study is not the Candidature File. You’ll need to wait for that, as we all will. Don’t forget under the Agenda 2020 and the New Norm rules, legacy and sustainability of venues is required. That’s exactly what the Olympic Candidature is and will demonstrate. It’s coming, don’t worry.

Watch this space. These details of the Bid will be out very soon since it has already been announced by the Australian Olympic Committee that the Brisbane/SEQ 2032 Candidature File will be formally lodged with the IOC ahead of the IOC Executive Board Meeting and IOC Session preceding the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games. The question then is, will this year’s IOC Session at Tokyo 2020 then vote on the 2032 Host?

Lost Olympians Explored True Beauty of Sporting Ideals By Roy Masters, Brisbane Times, January 19, 2020 https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/lost-olympians-explored-true-beauty-of-sporting-ideals-20200119-p53srv.html After almost a century, two “lost Australian Olympians” – never acknowledged as representing their country – could be finally honoured on the world’s biggest sporting stage. Ruby Reynolds-Lewis and James Quinn represented Australia at the 1924 Paris and 1932 Los Angeles Olympics, respectively, but have never been counted as competitors, despite the diligent record-keeping of the only nation other than Greece to have fielded a team at every modern Olympic Games. All this will change if Brisbane wins the bid to host the 2032 Summer Olympics. Australian Olympic Committee president John Coates confirmed that Reynolds-Lewis and Quinn would be the inspiration of the cultural program of a “First Nations Exhibition”, open to entries of art and music from all National Olympic Committees, held in conjunction with a 2032 Olympics in south-east Queensland. This should not imply Reynolds-Lewis and Quinn’s excision from history is because they were Indigenous. They were not. But they were non-sport competitors. Reynolds-Lewis entered in the 1924 Paris Olympics in the musical composition category and Quinn entered in the 1932 LA Games in the portrait painting category. At that time, arts and sport were both included in the Olympics. (It ended after the 1948 Games because it finally dawned on the IOC, obsessed with amateurism, that musicians and artists were being paid). The resurrection of the two Olympians is the result of dedicated research by the son of an Olympian, John Treloar, whose father, also named John, was a finalist in the 100 metres at the 1952 Helsinki Games and is regarded as Australia’s greatest male sprinter. Coates told the Herald: “At the December 2019 meeting of the Brisbane 2032 candidature group, I tabled John Treloar’s paper about Ruby Reynolds-Lewis and James Quinn for consideration when we come to plan our cultural program. "Any art exhibition, building on the significant works of our Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples, could include a ‘First Nations Exhibition’, open to all National Olympic Committees. And similarly with music. "Through a Brisbane 2032 art and music exhibition, we could finally acknowledge the contributions of Ruby Reynolds-Lewis and James Quinn to our rich Australian Olympic history." From the 1912 Stockholm Olympics to the 1948 London Olympics, an arts competition was held alongside the sport events, with works in different categories to be directly inspired by the ideal of sport. The founder of the modern Olympics, Frenchman Pierre de Coubertin, in his opening address to the conference that would organise the first Olympic art competitions, declared with typical pomposity that the Olympics would "reunite the Muscles and the Mind, once divorced, in the bonds of a legitimate marriage". Ruby Reynolds-Lewis submitted her musical composition, Chasse à courre(Hunting with hounds) and was joined by six competitors from France, Belgium, Great Britain and Norway. The rules allowed the judges to decline to award a medal if the entries failed to meet their standards. The 43 person jury in the music competition included world-class composers Bela Bartok, Maurice Ravel and Igor Stravinsky, so it’s not surprising none of the seven amateurs received a medal. Quinn was an Australian portrait painter who studied under Frederick McCubbin, an accredited official war artist for the First AIF and painted the official portrait of Sir John Monash. At the Los Angles Games, Quinn entered two portraits in the open painting event along with 312 participants from 18 countries. One was of Stephen Fairbairn, an Australian-born rowing coach, best known for his rowing at Cambridge in the 1880s. The portrait hangs in Jesus College, Cambridge. The other portrait was of Sir Hubert Wilkins, an Australian arctic explorer. Both were unsuccessful. Treloar, who is writing a book focussed on his father’s Games, says of Reynolds-Lewis and Quinn: “These two have been left out of our Australian Olympic history and should be recognised. They were not medal winners but, by entering, are Olympians.” Coates’ commitment to redeem the records of the two “missing Olympians”, should Brisbane win the 2032 bid, is no token offer. A member of the IOC and very close to its president Thomas Bach, Coates is convinced that a change to the candidature rules makes Brisbane a genuine chance of winning. This is why with the support of all three levels of government and the opposition parties, and the unanimous agreement of the AOC executive, the formal notification of Brisbane 2032's candidature was made on January 2. Coates added: “The Olympic Charter provides that ‘The organising committee for the Olympic Games shall organise a programme of cultural events which must cover at least the entire period during which the Olympic Village is open.’ It would be an ideal opportunity to honour our two previously unacknowledged Olympians.”

Yes the IOC do not appear to have finalised their 2021 Key Dates as yet. They were/are considering Athens, Greece, for the IOC Session in 2021.