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Quaker2001 last won the day on November 14 2020

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  1. I see the old baron is back. Liar. Do you really want to discuss? Or did you just throw that barb out there so you could yell back at people who don't agree with you. Okay, so you think Klete Keller should be stripped of his medals. Tell us why. Because you want to start a commotion because there's nothing else to talk about here? Why is it worth the time and the cost of a long distance phone call to tell Keller they're coming for his medals, let alone to actually come for his medals. The IOC has more important things to think about. This is not going to be something they'l
  2. Do you listen to yourself sometimes? "much hesitation to not boycott"? You need to reverse that. The question is will there be a determination *to* boycott. Right now, there is no boycott. You can't assume it's going to happen and then it's a matter of stopping it from happening. Again, unless there is a political statement and agenda behind "we are not sending athletes to compete in your country" and it needs to be more than "we don't like your political policies."
  3. From 1976 to 1988, every Summer Olympics was affected by some sort of boycott (some of the nations not attending the `88 Olympics did so for financial reasons rather than political). Since then, there have been none. It goes without saying that there are a lot of people who have strong political opinions - and thanks to social media, a very quick and easy avenue to express those opinions - given the state of the world right now. No question there's a ton of animosity against China. I still don't see that turning into Olympic boycotts though. Not without a very clear and stated purpose
  4. The baron is back! Yea, I saw some posts about this on Twitter. Mostly from people who don't understand how things work. No, Stefan is right and this is a dumb question that I don't actually think you care about, you're just trying to stir things up. The IOC isn't going to give a rat's ass about this. Nor should they. Keller hasn't been an active swimmer for a decade. USA Swimming probably doesn't care about him anymore. Let me ask you a question.. should the IOC take away Oscar Pistorius's medals away? All he did was murder his girlfriend
  5. Advocating something and actually doing it are 2 completely different things. The default is and always will be that a country will send its athletes to an Olympics. In order for that not to happen, someone (and someone high up in the chain of command) has to say "we will not send our athletes to the Olympics." Let's say who is willing to put their political capital on the line to say that. The assumption you need to work off of is that athletes will be attending the Olympics because that's what athletes do. You can't use the "well, we don't like China" as the starting point and think the
  6. In fact, it's all but a mathematical certainty that the IOC is not going to give 2 shits about where the UK commons thinks the games should be held. Do you still not understand how all this works?
  7. So where the headline says Canadian Olympic Committee says boycotting Beijing Games would be 'misguided', that means nothing to you? Where in this article are you seeing "significant support in Canada"? Once again, you need to stop treating anytime someone tweets their thoughts about a boycott as "significant support." It takes less than a minute for someone to write a 280 character message indicating they favor a boycott. Much MUCH harder to actually advocate for that with the people that actually make the decision.
  8. There's no less than 5 airlines right now offering direct flights from Heathrow to mainland China and 2 with direct flights to Beijing. What planet are you living on that you think there will no longer be flights from Western nations to China? Popular support from who? You're right, I don't know how the UK as a whole feels about China. But you're making a lot of assumptions here about how that is going to manifest itself into an Olympic boycott. And I think *you* are under-estimating what a major step that is and the process to make it happen. That's not a small political statemen
  9. You are really detached from reality right now trying to push a narrative. On what planet is there any expectation that the Olympics wouldn't be allowed to go ahead? You're bordering on trolling right now
  10. What kind of a bet is "refuses to rule out" supposed to be? So you're saying they're *not* going to make a decision? Way to go out on a limb on that one. If there is going to be a boycott, at some point, some official (who actually has the authority to make a decision, not simply a politician with the ability to put pressure on someone else) has to say "we refuse to send our athletes to the Olympics in China." It can't be as simple as a double negative, they would have to rule *in* a boycott. And that's not a small step like you sometimes want to make it out to be. The default s
  11. Spoken like a Trump supporter. You keep posting opinion pieces but how often have we heard from any actual officials about the possibility of a boycott? It's not as likely as you want to think it's going to be. I said it before, I'll say it again.. if you're talking about a boycott of politicians and other dignitaries, that I could totally see happening. But a mass boycott of countries preventing athletes from competing? That seems a lot less likely.
  12. I'm knowledgeable about 1998 on CBC because I saw it with my own eyes. No idea how Canadian coverage handled Ben Johnson. I know NBC dedicated a ton of time to it as it was probably one of the biggest stories of those Olympics. I know CBC had the Summer Olympics that year after CTV had the Winter Olympics. According to Wikipedia, Brian Williams was the host, so I can imagine he had a couple of opinions on that one and probably had a few things to say about American sprinters as well
  13. Another incident involving Canadians.. history generally remembers what happened with Jamie Sale and David Pelletier in 2002 in Salt Lake. What is not as often remembered is what happened to Shae-Lynn Bourne and Victor Kraatz. They were the Canadian ice dance pair who finished 4th in Nagano largely due to what was believed to by bloc voting by European judges to prevent the Canadians from winning a medal. That one rankled Brian Williams and company as well, so it was more less than objective commentary coming from them. But in many ways completely justified.
  14. Remember that one as well. I think it took over most of the programming that night, but after that it was reserved more for news coverage, even though all the anchors in Australia certainly made mention of it the remainder of the Games
  15. Ross Rebagliati. I remember that very well. They were extremely outraged over that decision unlike it was eventually reversed. A lot of people have said over the years that American TV coverage is overly jingoistic. They don't hold a candle to some of that I witnessed from the Canadians.
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