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Brisbane Olympic bid is our chance to stop funding decline: Coates Credit: By Georgina Robinson, February 19, 2020 — 4.56pm Brisbane Times: https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/rugby-union/brisbane-olympic-bid-is-our-chance-to-stop-funding-decline-coates-20200219-p542ee.html Australian Olympic Committee president John Coates says a successful bid to host the 2032 Olympics would be the "whack" required to reverse a long-term slide in funding for Olympic sports. Coates said the obesity epidemic was also a strong argument for continued government funding of Olympic sports, but the veteran AOC boss acknowledged there was nothing like a home Games to capture the attention of politicians. "It's the whack, no doubt about that, and that's something the Prime Minister acknowledges and would be ready for," he said. "I think there is still a justification for increasing funding based on the health and wellbeing of an active nation and all of those things ... government has to address obesity and other health issues ... and that's a message that the AOC keeps impressing upon them." Coates was speaking at the launch of Think Again, the memoir of Australia's first and only deaf Olympic decathlete Dean Barton-Smith, who competed at the Barcelona Olympics in 1992. Coronavirus and fresh revelations of looming funding cuts dominated proceedings, with Coates sparking a fresh war of words with long-time rival and Australian Sports Commission chief John Wylie. The Australian Institute of Sport, which falls under Wylie's remit, has been in meetings with national sporting organisations about the future structure of high performance funding, with Australia's three-time gold medal-winning Hockeyroos one of the most high-profile teams under a funding cloud post-Tokyo. Government funding of high-performance sport has declined by 12 per cent in real terms since 2010 during a time in which Australia's results on the world stage have stuttered. Australia claimed a record 58 medals and finished fourth overall at the Sydney Olympics in 2000 but the nation has slowly slid down the ranks and settled for 10th at the 2016 Games in Rio de Janeiro. In 2018 more than 40 current and former Australian athletes signed an open letter warning "high performance will inevitably transform into mediocrity" if sports are starved of Australian government funding, and AOC chief executive Matt Carroll followed up with calls for an extra $60 million each year. In the past three years the federal government has invested a total of $60 million in Tokyo preparations, while in last year's budget a further $54 million over two years was allocated to emerging high performance athlete pathways and athlete wellbeing and engagement. Neither Coates nor Wylie believe it is enough, but recent reporting on the cuts prompted Wylie to issue a public plea for unity and silence on the issue so close to the Games. Coates rejected the appeal, saying the issue deserved attention at any time in the Olympic cycle. "They seem to me to like mutterings of a man who has relevance deprivation, coming up with just six months to go," Coates said. "We've been critical of the fact that sports have had their funding reduced, we're critical of the funding criteria being just medals. Whether the government can redirect some money - I read that there's a pool of money there for the final run-up to Tokyo - so I hope that's wisely spent. "The difference I have with John Wylie in his piece is saying 'let's not talk about this til after the Games'. You need to be putting this to bed during this cycle so that you go straight into the next cycle and you don't lose six months. That's where I very much disagree with him and I've made that clear." The Queensland Government gave the go-ahead to a 2032 southeast Queensland bid late last year, and it must now develop a "candidature file" with its bid details, which would be presented to the IOC before the Tokyo Games next year. Coates reflected on Prime Minister Scott Morrison's pledge last year that the Government would not only support an Australian bid but build a long-term strategy around it. "We had a meeting on the side of [the G20] with our Prime Minister and Mathias Cormann and Prime Minister Morrison embraced the bid," Coates recalled. "He said 'the Commonwealth's behind this' but he also looked at [IOC president Thomas] Bach and said 'this is an opportunity for us to now plan long term and do something about a proper structure for sport and support for sport." Coates also said he was confident coronavirus posed no threat to the viability of the Tokyo Games.
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About 2 weeks ago,there were only 10 cases from the cruise ship but by yesterday,542 cases are reported.Now the ship is little Wu Han. 3 public servants,13 people who came back from China by charter plane,12 travellers from China mainland,45 people who got the virus by known or unknown roots(domestic)-615 cases in total.And this morning,500 passengers left the ship.It's really crazy to hold the marathon event in Tokyo in such time.
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What would the opening and closing ceremonies be like, if the Olympics was in Toronto in 2008
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Greece launches “Permanent Host” Bid
arwebb replied to Sir Rols's topic in General Olympics Discussion
In all seriousness, the IOC could do a lot worse than look at maintaining Athens as a venue to return to every few Games. A bit like St Andrews and the Open golf championship. -
Quite possibly. But I think we would be unwise to say the kind of campaigns that grew in Boston or Calgary couldn't grow around London too. People would doubtless be reminded of what the costs were initially meant to be and what they became and it is now far, far easier to get alternative messages out there, as we know.
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In general terms, I think regional bids are something that ought to be explored. But I cannot, and do not, trust Johnson one iota. He may talk the talk about "levelling up", in which case a Manchester-Liverpool bid could become a reality but there is no evidence of walking the walk. I fear a lot of people across our country are going to be bitterly, bitterly disappointed by him over the coming years.
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Oh, I just re-read and its actually just the annual Tokyo Marathon which got affected. Still though, as much as the organizing comittee keeps saying the Coronavirus wont affect the games, things like these are making me have my doubts, specially considering it appears the worst is yet to come with this virus.
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As if moving the marathon to Sapporo wasn't enough of a crappy decision, now this happened. Thanks for nothing, China https://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2020/02/tokyo-marathon-cancels-mass.html Tokyo Marathon Cancels Mass Participation Race, To Go Ahead as Elite-Only Event (updated) Update: The Mar. 8 Nagoya Women's Marathon, the world's largest women-only marathon, is now also looking at canceling its mass-participation division. In response to the spread of the coronavirus within Japan, the Tokyo Marathon Foundation has decided to cancel the Mar. 1 Tokyo Marathon's 38,000-runner mass-participation race. Founded in 2007, the Tokyo Marathon is Japan's largest mass-participation marathon, with more than a million spectators along its course every year. A men's Olympic marathon team selection race, this year's Tokyo Marathon will be an unusual spectacle with only 200 elite runners including national record holder Suguru Osako (Nike) and previous record holder Yuta Shitara (Honda). The Tokyo Marathon Foundation is also looking at significantly cutting back the activities of the 11,000 volunteers involved in the event's operations. On Feb. 1 the Foundation already asked roughly 1,800 participants living in China to refrain from taking part in this year's race and had announced plans to take measures such as distributing masks to participants on the day of the race. However, with the number of people infected with the virus in Tokyo continuing to increase, additional plans to mitigate risk were discussed. As a result of these discussions, the Foundation made the decision to cancel the entire mass-participation race, saying, "Preventing the spread of infection is our top priority." The Foundation is looking at possible reimbursement of participants' entry fees and other issues. But with the decision coming less than two weeks before the race, tens of thousands of amateur runners who have already paid for transportation and accommodations are left with nothing more than questions and confusion. Translator's note: For some context, this decision was made against a backdrop of other major public events including the Emperor's birthday celebrations also being canceled. Efforts to mitigate the spread of the virus now may impact whether Tokyo is in a position to host the Olympic Games in five months and should be interpreted at least partially in that context. At the same time, however, yesterday there were at least seven major road races with 10,000+ participants across Japan. Details have yet to be made clear on which divisions exactly are being canceled, but given the estimate of a 200-runner race it seems likely that anyone not among the 133 men and 43 women listed in this elite field PDF or among the wheelchair field will be out of luck, including the Run as One division.
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That’s all true about the government re: London, but a potential regional bid of Manchester/Liverpool/possibly Leeds or Sheffield would push all the right buttons for both Boris & the IOC in the moods they’re both in. Would provide a deadline for the cross-north rail plans & even HS2 as well. If it becomes certain that Brisbane will host 2032 (or anywhere else outside Europe for that matter), I wouldn’t be amazed to hear noises about Northern England 2036 from Boris’ circle.
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I don't think such a thing would happen. Firstly, it didn't happen last time (and I know social media wasn't a thing, but still, there was much more to protest against last time in terms of disruption, costs etc). Secondly, because there's a real fondness for London 2012 that didn't exist before the Games. Pre-2012 many were lukewarm to cynical*, post-2012 and especially with Brexit, the Games are already being viewed in warmly nostalgic terms. Most people would, in London at least, love to have them back. The NoBostonOlympics stuff wouldn't fly in post-2012 London. At worst, I think we'd have some Extinction Rebellion protests. My main "concern" (if you could call it that, because I'm not advocating for another bid), would actually be from the other end of the spectrum. I don't think this government would want to be seen to be pushing for London to be the focus of a major event. -- * I think you're misremembering the level of public support. It was good (around 65%), but not massive, and the excitement didn't really ramp up until we got quite close to the event. Similarly, I don't think anyone is going to be excited about Brum 22 just yet.
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Social media has really galvanised anti-Olympic bids. Small noisy minorities can hijack the agenda so much easier these days,and disseminate hysterical fake news or just noise. As for London 2012, glad you enjoyed it, but I see it now as the most tarnished Games ever, with at least 29 medallists (13 Gold) being stripped of their medals, and more to come.
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As someone who was lucky enough to be in London for part of those magical few weeks in 2012, the idea of it happening again in my lifetime, let alone as soon as 2036, seems far too good to be true. Yes, we're probably in a stronger position technically, given the venues that are already in place and would only need some upgrading rather than major construction. I do wonder, though, whether it would command the kind of public support that the 2012 bid did. I haven't been following developments in the field that closely of late, for various reasons, but I don't particularly sense any groundswell behind Birmingham 2022 (albeit that's not as big an event as the Olympics, of course). My concern, at least from the perspective of a fan, is that a bid for a fourth London Olympics might be susceptible to the kinds of campaigns that have weakened several other bids in other parts of the world in recent times.
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South Africa or Australia, I would think. Probably the former, particularly given what happened with 2023.
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Key Findings of Value Proposition Assessment Credit: State Government of Queensland https://www.premiers.qld.gov.au/publications/categories/reports/assets/2032-olympic-paralympic-games-vpa.pdf Hosting the 2032 Games is feasible with financial and operational services support from all three levels of government. Organising Committee costs for the Olympic and Paralympic Games of $4.45 billion could be delivered at no cost to the State, taking into account International Olympic Committee (IOC) contributions and domestic revenues. The quantifiable economic benefits for Queensland have been estimated at around $7.4 billion. In addition, there are a range of qualitative social and community benefits that the Games could deliver over a potential two-decade window of opportunity. The Games could have a positive impact on job creation, supporting around 130,000 direct jobs. In addition to direct jobs, there will be tens of thousands of indirect jobs supported by the Games including over 10,000 tourism induced jobs in the Games year alone. The tourism and trade opportunities the Games could deliver are significant. This includes an estimated uplift of around $20.2 billion in international visitor expenditure between 2020 and 2036 and increased export opportunities of up to $8.6 billion. In addition to whole-of-State benefits, regions outside of South East Queensland (SEQ) could also benefit from a range of opportunities, including: - Games hosting opportunities (Cairns, Townsville and the Whitsundays) - pre-Games training, Torch Relay and cultural festivals - increased visitor expenditure with around 50 per cent of international travellers dispersing to the regions (an uplift of approximately $10 billion) procurement and supply chain opportunities. A high percentage of Games venues - approximately 80 per cent - already exist or can be delivered through temporary overlay solutions. A number of options, aligned with long term sport and entertainment venue planning in Brisbane, continue to be explored for the Athletics and Ceremonies venue. Queensland’s climate and world-class facilities provide an ideal environment for elite athletes to train and perform at their best. The recent Olympic Agenda 2020, New Norm reforms provide a basis for Queensland to host the Olympic and Paralympic Games in a way which reduces costs and ensures flexibility in delivery to the benefit of the host. The 2032 Games and the SEQ City Deal currently under development provide a catalytic opportunity for all three levels of Government to agree on key priorities including transport infrastructure projects. The next stage involves finalising the master plan, securing funding and operational service agreements with all levels of government and confirming the associated costs to the State.
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2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games Value Proposition Assessment Executive Summary Credit: State Government of Queensland https://www.premiers.qld.gov.au/publications/categories/reports/assets/2032-olympic-paralympic-games-vpa.pdf
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Queensland Olympics 2032 would create jobs and cash injection, government says Credit: Warren Barnsley , 7 News Tuesday, 11 February 2020 5:14 pm https://7news.com.au/news/qld/queensland-olympics-2032-would-create-jobs-and-cash-injection-government-says--c-691980 The Queensland government has shrugged off criticism of its 2032 Olympics push, touting hundreds of thousands of jobs and billions of dollars of economic benefits. The state government has released its Value Proposition Assessment of hosting the Olympic and Paralympics Games in Brisbane, the Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast. It claims $7.4 billion of quantifiable economic benefits have been identified, with the games creating 130,000 jobs. “In addition to direct jobs, there will be tens of thousands of indirect jobs supported by the Games including over 10,000 tourism induced jobs in the Games year alone,” said the report, released on Tuesday. Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the games would be “jobs bonanza for all of Queensland, not just Brisbane”. “We’re taking it very seriously,” she said. “The economic benefits to the state are great.” One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has led the backlash leader to Queensland hosting the Olympics, labelling the push “irresponsible”. “We’re in dire straits in Queensland - the state government is in a $90 billion debt, we have townships running out of water,” the Queensland senator said last month. But the report claims the cost of hosting the games, estimated to be $4.45 billion, could be delivered at “no cost to the state, taking into account International Olympic Committee contributions and domestic revenues”.
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As the disastrous financial costs of the Montreal games of 1976 became clear to the world, there was only 1 bid for 1984 and 2 for 1988. But after Los Angeles hosted in 1984 without incurring debts it became fashionable to bid again. The same thing may happen again after affordable Olympics in Paris and Los Angeles. -
2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids
world atlas replied to WD96's topic in 2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids
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Plus, locking in these cities now, sort of restores a semblance of the continental rotation scenario which has suffered a bit too much from the "Asian flu" of 2018-2020-2022! I wonder if the mascot for Beijing 2022 will be called Coronafefe-22?? -
2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids
mountainboarder_530@yahoo. replied to WD96's topic in 2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids
2030 Sapporo, 2034 SLC, i guess the real conversation is gonna be 2038. Both are safe picks, which is exactly what the IOC needs right now. They were extremely lucky the Italy bid jumped out at the last minute a-la Major League Soccer's Nashville bid. -
Makes sense. Sapporo 2030 allows SLC 2034 exclusivity on sponsors. Not a bad move if thats how it goes down, as both will be solid hosts. IOC wants and needs "safe" right now.
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The IOC seems now to be rushing for only bids from super safe countries for both Summer and Winter Games - USA/Canada/ UK/ France/ Germany (referendums?) / Spain/ Italy/ China/ Japan/ Korea and Australia. No new frontiers, no controversy, long lead times etc...it is a smaller and smaller pool of bidders. -
Here's short video version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCnzjkpGCtU
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More pics of the rehearsal plus the mini cauldron. https://twitter.com/tokyo2020/status/1228664283132657665
