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I attended 2 nights of short track in 2002. To say "less than optimal" is being kind. That they're planning on putting hockey at the Delta Center (didn't realize that's the naming rights sponsor again) means they're probably going to do what Vancouver did in 2010 and play on an NHL sized rink rather than an international sized rink which is a little larger. Right now, Delta Center has terrible sightlines for a hockey team, but there's a plan in place to fix that without having to build a brand new arena. Seattle managed to renovate their basketball arena to make it work for hockey, although they didn't have a primary tenant at the time, so that was easier for them. And yes, this is going to result in some really expensive tickets for figure skating. But that probably would have been the case anyway if it was at Delta Center.

Exactly. At least, even France seems to be putting together a more common sense 2030 plan than Milano-Cortina.

How sure are you of that? With the millions of dollars LA28, the USOPC and the IOC asking sponsors -- why would NON-traditional sponsors line up for an event wherein they and their products have no synergy? Just as an example, off the top of my head, Boeing would be a great corporate sponsor. But Boeing's customer base are the airlines and the US gov't for federal contracts. (Also, they are currently experiencing great fiscal problems.) In that state, why would a company like Boeing want to sign up for an Olympic sponsorship? How would that affect its bottom line and serve its stockholders?) The whole corporate structure has changed. That is why the USOPC and Salt Lake 2034 insisted on a 6-year gap between 2028 and 2034 because they know that the list of possible Olympic sponsors is dwindling and with the World Cup yapping at the Olympic heels, the #2 companies in each category (MasterCard, Pepsi, Hershey, etc.) are probably getting better returns from their investment with the World Cup than with the Olympics--which is just for prestige.

The delivery of souvenir tickets has started.

No, of course not. I was only saying that *theoretically* speaking (& going by just the dates, & no other [political] considerations). Most of us know that's being reserved for India (or Qatar). That's why I went on to say this.. I only brought up Buenos Aires (again, theoretically speaking, if one was to take Bach's words at face-value) because the OP said this: "The IOC did not change the dates for Sydney or Melbourne to host 2032". Which most of us here also know why that really was, & it wasn't that black-&-white.

Yeah, but we all know he certainly did not think about Buenos Aires when he suggested the date frame should not be seen so strictly…

Then no African country can, unless South Africa resolves years of cronysm in this current government.

Yeah, but if honests, weather is the least of the issues in Buenos Aires. Let's see if this government doesn't fall in another Argentinazo while half of the population is living in poverty while paying the financial default. It may take 10-12 years to return to levels of 2015.

It all depends on which city actually bids for the Olympics and who most meets the New Norm IOC Host Selection requirements, whether or not they have previously hosted the Olympic Games or not. New Norm Olympic bids are assessed on things such as: using as much existing sporting venues where possible, if a new venue/stadium needs to be built, having a realistic and viable legacy plan for ongoing usage of that new venue/stadium following the Games. This means having a plan that will convince the IOC Future Host Commission that the new venue/stadium really will continue to be used after the Games and not be an eyesore unused white elephant that rarely gets used ever again, Financial Guarantee by the host city’s national government environmentally sustainable how well that bid fits in with existing regional and national development plans, and how well the bid fits within the long-term strategic goals of the Olympic Movement. I know you support the Istanbul 2036 bid which is competing with 10-12 world cities for the 2036 Olympic and Paralympic Games, which includes two cities who are previous hosts. But it’s not about cities “taking turns” to host the Olympics. Its all about which bidder is more competitive than the others in that field against the IOC’s New Norm requirements. We’re expecting the 2036 Host to be decided and elected in the next 1-2 years and so we will find out then who that will be.

But Turin is just roughly one hour by train from Milan. And even the 2006 mountain venues are closer to Milan than most of the 2026 ones.

Same thing is playing out here in Australia with Brisbane 2032 being very pigheaded around any suggestion of using Sydney 2000 venues.

Seems a little premature to sound the alarm on this TBH. I'm certain the LA organizers will secure enough sponsors, even if they're not traditional Olympic sponsors.

Maybe the other would-be sports aren't really ready for international prime-time exposure, i.e., #1 - they don't have full participation from at least 3 continents or at least credible gender-parity numbers; #2 - they aren't farther along in terms of development and codification; and #3 - therefore, they don't have a responsible federation behind them yet to push for inclusion in the next set of Games. But I am sure SLC 2034 is at least eyeing--as you said--to add one or 2 more para-sports to improve on the previous Games. I'd like to see Para-Ballroom Dance added to the Winter SOG, but they'll need a wooden-floor arena (or at least a giant hotel ballroom) for this!! (BTW, does this category even exist?)

IPC confirms sports for 2030 Paralympics, same as always 6 sports (alpine skiing, biathlon, cross-country skiing, ice hockey, snowboarding, curling) https://sportetsociete.org/2024/10/13/alpes-francaises-2030-lipc-confirme-la-presence-de-six-para-sports/ It's sad they don't add one or two more paras-sports. The Winter Paralympics are really very light imo, and I feel like it doesn't really help their media exposure. But we'll see how it goes in six years.

Autumn Olympic Games on the horizon The IOC Executive Board recently flagged that due to the warming global climate that they are seriously considering allowing future ‘Summer Olympic Games’ to be held in cooler months, eg northern hemisphere autumn. Tokyo 2020 was badly hit by heatwaves and their marathon started in the cooler early morning, as it did ar Paris 2024. Such a rule change would involve a relaxation to the IOC’s current mandatory July/August hosting requirement. Such a hosting rule change would open the door for countries such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia to host the Games in say November as they absolutely cannot host in the oppressive deadly heat of July/August. Brisbane 2032 is being held in winter time but a milder, drier winter than say Sydney or Melbourne. The IOC July/August rule was introduced after the Sydney 2000 Games were held in September (spring).

Buenos Aires could easily host in September, considering their weather then is quite similar to Brisbane's (the 2032 host) in July-Aug. And considering how the IOC president, Thomas Bach, has recently said that the dates can be "pushed back to later in the year due to climate change", then that doesn't appear to be as much as an obstacle going forward as it once was. Things can change, as they always do, especially when we're talking many years in advance. Just look at Brazil; when they were selected to host the 2016 Olympics, their economy was buzzing right along. But once the 2016 Games were near, Brazil was in a recession, & many there then were questioning all the spending being done on the (FIFA WC & the) Olympics. That said, I don't see Santiago (or any southern hemisphere "interested party") getting 2036 anyway (not so soon after Brisbane). Bach & Co. surely have their sights already set somewhere else on who their "preferred bidder" is going to be for those Games, & we could find that out as soon as March of next year.

I really can't understand how you can consider "Rio 2016" a disaster, it may not have been better than London or Paris, but without a doubt it was very far from a disaster. Any future Olympic edition in South America faces an obvious problem: the weather. In July-August it is cold in Santiago or Buenos Aires. The IOC did not change the dates for Sydney or Melbourne to host 2032, why would they do this for two cities in countries with economies unable to host the games? Any future edition in South America will take place in Brazil. No other country in the region has the economy or climate conditions to host the games.

Why would #1 backfire? Those people are sleeping on floors and cots in gyms if they can be accommodated. And for starters, maybe LA28 doesn't have to brand their gifts at first -- and see how they pan out. That's what I would do.

#1 would backfire immensely, #2 is probably the best option. Maybe something like a tiny home village? I know Birmingham AL tried to do this (though it seems there wasn't much success due to a lack of proper preparation) during the World Games, so if things don't improve by 2027, LA could take the idea and improve on it: https://wbhm.org/2022/sleeping-shelters-for-homeless-people-will-be-built-for-the-world-games-what-happens-next/

#1 - Detention/holding enclosures for immigrants at the borders. #2 - New homeless shelters -- at least as starters.

where could the beds go?

The cardboard beds are really a good idea, environmental-wise, and it would seem that with CA's 30,000 homeless today, 16,000 beds from the UCLA and USC Villages would be put to good use after September 2028. The viral Olympic Village cardboard beds given second life post Paris 2024 (insidethegames.biz) But can California's homeless wait -- or can LA28 share the wealth even BEFORE July 2028? Methinks even sending out 10K beds a year before July 2028 would be a good PR move for LA28.

So, unless someone else builds a new, bigger stadium/arena in SLC before 2034, FS Finals will probably be the hottest tickets for 2034. The Short Programs though don't usually sell out--just the Finals--but unless there are no US skaters in all categories in the Finals, FS Finals tickets will probably start at $300/ each--and go on the black market for at least $1,000!!

Wrong. There's no evidence Madrid is out of the running. You need to look at the context, the source is dubious at best. Escudi is stirring the pot in the endless Barcelona-Madrid rivalry. The Bernabeau just underwent a renovation that had made it a state-of-the-art stadium fully capable of hosting any FIFA WC final. Escudi also gave no specifics either. As for Morocco, Casablanca is a distant third given they don't even have enough their stadium built yet and they've been talking about it for well over ten years.

Not even 12,000. The Maverik Center's capacity drops to just over 10,000 for ice events+. Ticket prices will be pricey indeed. Not really any other option for a bigger venue though.