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  1. Malawi, Lesotho, Tuvalu, Bhutan, Suriname, Palau, Brunei, Bahrain, Laos, South Sudan
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  2. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say Beijing 2022 will be a complete disaster for China if they don't sort this out soon. The IOC won't be able to maintain careful neutrality and stave off protests from athletes over this. And I suspect many, many athletes will want to protest. 'Complex' issues around human rights/politics are one thing, but disappearing an athlete has the potential to cause the mother of all storms and be THE sole talking point of Beijing 2022. Every press conference, many podium ceremonies, interviews etc. And there'll be no way to talk round it, none of the IOC's usual guff about their presence having a positive long-term impact will wash. The IOC will have to side with the athletes and, I suspect, drop bans on protests. In short, if she's ok China needs to prove it. This will hugely escalate if not.
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  3. I DECLARE CHRISTMAS 2021...OPEN! Lowestoft's finest there, with one of the all-time great Christmas songs...here goes: Here we go again, because you can't keep a good idea down - at least not at the start - it's the symbol of December - THE 15TH ANNUAL GAMESBIDS OLYMPIC LOGO COMPETITION! Last year's comp didn't result in its demise, quite the opposite with both rounds being won by debutants - so let's hope that showed that the old thing still has some life in it yet. To help give it the best shot, we're sticking to last year's tried and tested, non-batshit mad format - two cities, one summer, one winter, one winner for each and one month (ish) to make them in. You probably want to know where they are, so here you go. They're good ones... SUMMER 2036: ISTANBUL, TURKEY Not Constantinople, and definitely not Byzantium, the city so good they named it three times needs no introduction. But this is one. One of the world's oldest, largest, and greatest cities with thousands of years of history, a symbol of the exotic and exciting (for Western Europe anyway), and a perennial Olympic hopeful, the only surprise is that 14 previous comps have somehow missed it! Let's be honest, even if it's not 2036, the Istanbul Olympics will surely happen eventually, so here's your chance to show how it should look. How will you design the games where Turkish Olympic dreams finally come true? WINTER 2034: GLASGOW, SCOTLAND, GREAT BRITAIN* Possibly even more amazing than 14 years of missing Istanbul is 14 years of completely ignoring the UK*. So on this St Andrew's Day, it's time to rectify that as the Winter comp heads to Scotland, the birthplace of curling. Glasgow, much in the news lately, is Scotland's largest city, even if internationally it's been a bit overshadowed by capital Edinburgh, but there's plenty of inspiration here on the Clyde for you in a city of great design history - even if actually hosting a Winter Olympics here might stretch Agenda 2020, it's still not implausible with some imagination, and that's what it's all about. How will you design the games where curling comes home? *Legal disclaimer - I'm using Scotland, British, Britain, UK etc interchangably based on context simply because that's the situation currently, and as anyone who says they know what'll happen by 2034 is either a) fibbing, or b) Doctor Who, it's easiest. This is not an endorsement of either side on Scottish independence. So there. THE RULES AND THINGS We are, as ever, after logos that encompass the overall feel of the city and local influences that can be tied into a design concept. How can any of these cities articulate graphically what they could bring to future Olympics hosting? What flavour will they bring to the games? Will it inspire the Turks to pull their fingers out and stop Putin's 2036 coronation? (Although Erdogan still...eh). The logos should be presented as full colour designs on white background. If you like, however, they can also be presented in black and white or utilised in forms like street banners, t-shirts, apps, vehicles, pins etc. For voting purposes, the main (colour) logo will be used on the polls, & extra stuff is not obligatory, but any extra material you produce may help you “sell” your design better to the wider GamesBids voting membership.  These logos are for the cities as they HOST the games. So you CAN use the rings, and don't need to include the words “Candidate City, Olympic Games 2036” or whatever the IOC want this week. Please post your preliminary submissions on this thread. If you want to hold anything back to be presented as a “surprise” when voting starts you can contact me or Rols via PM and I'll tell you where you can send the extra material. However, it would be nice to see as many on-thread submissions as possible for people to chew over in-thread, & to try & get the old buzz back. We can hope, right? You can submit logos for either or both cities. However, you cannot enter more than one logo for the same city (see below). So entering one logo for each is fine, but two logos for Glasgow, say, is not fine. You are able, encouraged even, to enter both 'sides' of the comp. Feel free to post as many logo designs as you like, & to ask for feedback from our famously discerning electorate. If you really can't decide between your own designs for a city, feel free to start a poll (or to ask for one to be started). When the time comes for voting, however, you will be asked to settle on a maximum of ONLY ONE official logo per city as your official entry. The format depends on the numbers. Most likely, it will be the traditional exhausting exhaustive ballot preferred by the IOC, but if numbers fit & opinion ok, we may have the World Cup-style tournament system. Whatever happens, the winter & summer 'halves' will be entirely separate, there will be two winners in the Olympic comp tradition. The competition is open to all members of GamesBids, or to any new legitimate members who join before the end of the submission period. I, with consultation, will rule on the legitimacy of new members. As you would expect, I will rule on any disputes - always aiming to be as fair as possible in the process. As always, just remember, this is all meant to be fun. Olympic spirit, remember?. Hopefully this will spark up some action on the board. I'll be dipping in, keeping a close eye on things, but otherwise will try and keep my green yoshi-paws off until the polling stages. The deadline for submissions is 1pm London time (that is, midnight in Sydney, as per tradition) on NEW YEAR'S EVE, 31 DECEMBER 2021. Thus, GB will begin the Olympic year (yup, another one) 2022 with the voting. Just one extra thing, there is something of a tradition of that being extended, but I don't know yet exactly how the numbers will add up - I want to schedule the comp so its last act, a final in the summer comp, if it goes fully through the rounds, would be on February 3, the eve of this year's first human rights-loving sporting spectacles /sarcasm. And this is just to alert @Rob. Rob to the existence of the new comp in the hope that he'll do his traditional bit of putting up links to various free design programs etc for the benefit of those who want to take part but may not have the facility at the moment, and to alert @GBModerator Rob to the fact the comp is back! All that is left to say is thank you Rols once again, and to all participants for having the guts to put your logos up for the annual GamesBids dissection, & may the best logos win - GOOD LUCK!
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  4. I know I've poked fun at the idea of a double allocation in the past, but I agree this seems like a real possibility. 2030 is Sapporo's if they can get support for it (easier said than done), and then Salt Lake is right behind them for 2034 which the USOPC will likely appreciate even though the SLC folks might not be as happy. And that'll be a huge boon for American TV rights if the first Games of the new contract is on US snow and ice.
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  5. Let's not forget, that like Brisbane, SLC has been at this for YEARS now. At least the last five. And three years ago, the USOC officially named SLC (over Denver) as their next candidate for the Winter Olympic Games. And now that everything is done behind-the-scenes, who's to say how much of that list has already been completed. The IOC hasn't remained idle since Tokyo 2020ne. And this is the IOC afterall, & they tweak their own rules as they go along as long as they can see it benefits them in the end in some way. That said, though, if anything, I can at least see the IOC naming SLC as their "preferred candidate" right before Beijing 2022 (like they did with Brisbane, five months before they officially crowned them with 2032 at Tokyo 2020ne). At this point, I'd say it makes more sense to hold off Sapporo, or the likes of Ukraine, 'til at least 2034. Too much uncertainty, especially with Ukraine, to see that all clear up in only 18 months from now. Needless to say, but we've all also have tried to gauge the global map of what other 'dark angel' could mysteriously pop up now that would want to work with the IOC at this point in time. And right now, that map, especially for the winter Games, is looking very bleak.
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  6. The other great tradition of comp opening day is the mass @ - here we go: @paul @JDCLauron @Glacib @daveypodmore @Scotguy @Lord David @Rob. @thatsnotmypuppy @mr.bernham @woohooitsme83 @VIK @baron-pierreIV @JMarkSnow2012 @nzl @Utkarsh Verma @Athensfan @Citius Altius Fortius @Olympian1010 @TorchbearerSydney @Sir Rols @AustralianFan @JO2024 @Nacholympic @aismanggo @Anthony @Jon Will Chambers @Victorian @DannyelBrazil @ScoBit @Palette86 @cfm Jeremie @Fiorenzo @pcutone @Olympic Fan Darcy @Athens 2004 forever It's everyone in my previous mass @, plus everyone who posted or voted in last year's comps, even those who voted in August (!). Plus Danny as he expressed interest when he came back after Tokyo
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  7. Sapporo expected to announce cost cuts to land 2030 Olympics
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  9. ^^ I don't know what evidence you have for that. Birmingham was the British candidate for 1992 and Manchester for 1996 and 2000. Neither city came higher than third. Many of the 128 members of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), who will make the decision, have emphasised that only London would stand a chance in future. As one said when Manchester lost to Sydney: “We will know you’re serious when you come back with London.” I'm not making (or attempting to make) any judgement on Manchester's capability but the IOC repeatedly rejected UK cities that aren't London and bit our hand off as soon as London was offered upsetting repeat bidder and strong favourite Paris. 2020 was not a bid race conducted under the "new norm" rules, so I don't know why you'd think Manchester (in a world where London 2012 didn't happen) would have a chance against Tokyo. Whether a city like Manchester has a chance in future with the new rules is a more interesting question. But to suggest any UK city but London could've won in recent decades is fanciful.
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  11. Actually, the whole Peng story can develop into something super embarrassing for the (so far silent) IOC. WTA has given some strong statements already and don‘t seem willing to bow to Chinese efforts to keep this under the rug. Of course this will not lead to a „full boycott“, but it adds yet another topic to the list of issues we might get unwanted (by IOC and China) comments/protests by athletes about.
    2 points
  12. Ballroom Dance. (If ridiculous Paris 2024 can have "Breaking," why can't LA, the entertainment capital of the world, have Ballroom Dance?)
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  13. Im hoping to be eternally hopeful on this one because I really want to see it. Brain says no, heart says yes
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  14. Cake-decorating it is.
    2 points
  15. After the Chinese WTA tournaments being cancelled two years in a row and dismal attendance every year before that this seems like a very convenient out for the WTA. The previous WTA CEO really gambled too big on developing tennis in China leaving the current CEO with a big mess.
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  16. A lot of the people on social media complaining about NBC's coverage clearly did the bare minimum in terms of figuring out where events would air and just assumed that Peacock would have everything. Shame on NBC for probably being intentionally vague, but Peacock was never going to be the solution for everyone in terms of live coverage. And the best stuff they had was actually on the free version of the platform with various studio shows and live coverage in the mornings of gymnastics and track and field that NBC did little to publicize. From what I've read, NBC has plans to re-imagine Peacock around the start of February because of all the issues with Tokyo. Supposedly the plan is for much more streaming on Peacock, with most events live and in full with ads. My hope is that won't affect what they have on the NBC Sports App where everything is normally accessible if you have a cable subscription. As long as that's unchanged, let them do whatever they want with Peacock. Obviously a lot fewer events during the Winter Olympics than the Summer, so that'll be a lot easier to manage
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  17. France honors Josephine Baker further by making her the first Black Woman "interred" at the Pantheon in Paris. (It is a mere symbolic internment--of a cenotaph--since Baker's remains will stay in Monaco. The smaller coffin carries the soils of Baker's 3 countries - the USA, France and Monaco.) Viva, Mlle. Baker!! They gave her a quasi-military send-off -- another honor which even Edith Piaf was not given.
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  18. No rush. Covid is still messing things up. And the IOC is still we ahead of its standard 7-year lead. And with an ex-host city like SLC, they can even go six without skipping a beat. So I say that the IOC will hold off on naming SLC until the next full IOC sessions in either Baranquilla (mid-2022) or Mumbai (2023), hoping that Sapporo, Ukraine or some other dark angel can come through for 2030.
    1 point
  19. Gina can pay for Perth to host-she can afford it!
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  20. Your seats sound truly amazing for such a memorable life experience. Yes looking at the OC video now you can see people holding up cameras everywhere, before the smartphone era. Yes, you’re right, plenty of photos online. My camera photos weren’t the best I remember the buzz of the very first look at the stadium set-up when I walked in and I couldn’t figure out where the cauldron was going to travel as had no idea that it was hidden under the top tier of the stage. I also recall the jumbo screens were gradually scrolling through different international messages such as, “Wave if you are from Canada,” .. or “South Africa”, etc etc. Great photo of you with the torch by the way. It must have been truly amazing an honour to actually carry the Torch. Incredible memories. I saw the relay in Perth in three different locations, couldn’t get enough of it.
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  21. I remember getting off the train at Concord West Train Station having come in from the north and looking at how overcast and threatening the sky looked late afternoon. From the train station, through an underpass, the crowd marshalls directed us through the Olympic parklands over to Stadium Australia. What a feeling of anticipation it was and thankfully, there was no rain. My seat was high up well above the athletes entrance and when the flame was lit, we felt the heat of the cauldron washing all the way up to where we were seated.
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  22. They might get Japan. That's not a given. Salt Lake getting an Olympics in the 2030s is a virtual certainty. If the USOPC had their way, it would be for 2034, but obviously that presumes the IOC has a 2030 host. We'll see what the Japanese appetite is for another Olympics so soon after Tokyo, and I imagine more than a few people will be watching Beijing in a couple of months to see how that goes, know that it'll be an unusual Olympics for a number of reasons. Hard to imagine any cities emerging for either of those 2, particularly if the IOC is looking at more backroom deals. We'll see how things look 2.5 years from now when hopefully for the IOC that the "genocide games" as some want to call them is a distant memory and they're only looking ahead at a brighter future. I'm sure there's some sentiment within the IOC to just these Olympics over with and hope they can move on. But like I said, all the IOC ever needs is 1 willing and capable partner every 4 years. They haven't failed at that yet, so there's little reason to think they're in grave danger at any point in the foreseeable future.
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  23. Particularly on a website decided to Olympic host bidding, let's not be ignorant to history here. We didn't get another Olympics in Beijing because they ticked boxes or because the IOC really wanted to partner up with a communist country. There were more than a few cities interested in bidding for 2022. The IOC scared nearly all of them off, in large part because of the recency of Sochi and their massively expensive Olympics, but also because of the miles long list of demands the IOC wants to impose on the host city/country. We know pretty definitively that's why Oslo dropped out, which is a shame, because that would have likely been another amazing Olympics. So that left the IOC with a giant douche and a turd sandwich in Beijing and Almaty. And it was a 44-40 final vote. If just 3 Beijing voters have a change of heart that day, we're not having this discussion (although we're probably having a different discussion as it relates to Kazakhstan). The moral of the story here being that let's not paint a picture of the IOC that they were really gung ho to return to Beijing and to partner with China. Nearly half of the IOC voters didn't want that, and I'm sure in hindsight, many of those 44 who advocating for Beijing probably regret that decision. We all know the IOC wants to play it both ways.. when things are good, they'll claim credit for the Olympic movement. When they aren't good, they'll avoid any notion that they can do anything for the cause of human rights. That all said.. Shanghai 2036? No shot after the trail of bad press the IOC is going to leave in their wake here, unless China does a complete 180 in the next decade, and we all know that's not going to happen. As the story goes and what we saw with 2032 is that the IOC only needs 1 willing partner that they want to work with. And then they can ignore the rest for whatever reason they want. Literally the only way Shanghai is even a thought in their minds would be for no other cities to be interested, which undoubtedly would include a lot of begging from the IOC for someone to come in and save their collective asses. As for Agenda 2020.. the whole purpose of that direction for the IOC isn't to find an ideal candidate, but rather for cities to be more open and less rigid about what they are allowed to offer up. If Italy offered up their Milan-Cortina bid for 2006 with venues spread over the country, they probably wouldn't have won. But in the age of agenda 2020, they get consideration they wouldn't have 2 decades ago. Agenda 2020 doesn't help a city like Shanghai if China can't help themselves and will spend extravagant amounts of money to make it happen. That's literally the antithesis of what Agenda 2020 is supposed to be about. The silver lining for the IOC is that once they're through this fiasco, they have 4 future hosts locked in with France, Italy, the United States, and Australia. It's been a long time since the future Olympics calendar hasn't included the likes of a China or a Russia or a new frontier country like Brazil. So they have an opportunity to salvage their reputation if 2 years is enough time before Paris for the world to forget everything that's happened in the last 20 months. Easier said than done, but that's why if we're talking about future summer hosts, the time for that discussion is likely years down the road
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  24. I knew it! He can’t be a bad bloke if he supports the Tigers!
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  25. Personally, I have not really cared for any Winter Games medal design since Innsbruck 64 and 76. 1988 was the last sort of traditional medal shape, after that we get crazy glass and bagel medals.
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  26. With 2 skaters carrying mirrors in the bkgd to give the appearance of twice the number of skaters!!
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  27. Just FYI: according to their coalition agreement in the “sports” chapter, the incoming German government (social democrats/green/(neo-)liberals) pledges support for future Olympic bids, provided there is timely involvement/participation of the public. In other words: if a bid wants government support, it needs to hold a referendum, as I understand it.
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  28. Brisbane Olympics 2032: Qld to be events capital of Australia
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  29. I do not know the reason why some seats are removed contemporarily. As for the plate of 1964,it is installed permanently where people cannot easily find.
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  30. ^Yeah, & that's what pretty much started the whole, "present us (the IOC) with ONLY your glamour, global capital cities for the Olympic Games" trend. Even for the domestic 2012 U.S. nominee race, the beta & gamma cities of Dallas, Houston & Cincinnati, etc. were easily bypassed by the USOC in favor of NYC. For the 2020 race, the IOC was still in the era of, "give us your best-foot forward city you got on the table" faze. So no, in a hypothetical 2020 race where Manchester was also a candidate, I still see Tokyo handily winning 2020. I'd even go as far as saying, that Manchester may not have even made the short-list for that race. Even with the "new norm" bidding rules, I'd still question whether or not the IOC was serious about beta & gamma cities. The election of Brisbane certainly makes a case now for such cities, but I'd also still question the IOC's likelihood of continuing such a trend, when most of us know the real circumstances of the 2032 "race".
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  31. My initial thought reading Dan Roan's tweet was this is excellent, but the write-up on the Olympic site is bizarre. I really don't know what to make of it. It certainly hasn't resolved things.
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  32. So this confirms that Bach is really just a puppet on Xi’s strings. It does not mean a thing when it comes to Peng’s real fate.
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  33. Thanks Sir Rols. We both, my partner and I, have had a scary bad week since testing positive a week ago, but thanks to the daily checkins and care at home by the excellent Royal Melbourne Hospital team, we’ve both turned the corner and enjoying our first full day of feeling normal, wanting to eat and tasting what we eat and drink. But back to the Brisbane 2032 thread, do you know the best way to contact a GB Moderator?
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  34. Yeah. You don;t need to do that. It’s superfluous, especially when it’s so obviously a spam post. I may not be on constantly, but I do check in regularly several times each day. I’ll terminate them with extreme prejudice when I notice them. What happened in this case was i clicked on the thread to flag it, but instead of flagging the original spammer, I ended up flagging the last poster on it - unfortunately, you. Don’t worry about it in the future - I believe any acknowledgement of such spamming just gives them oxygen, and it avoids such stuff-ups as this in the future. Don’t worry, me or one of the other mods will notice and zap. Unfortunately, that’s beyond my user privileges. You’d have to request GBModerator. I don’t know if it’s technically possible or not. Cross fingers. Wish you a speedy recovery from Covid. Hang in there.
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  35. That may have been my fault. I was deleting some spam counterfeit passport threads the other day and I accidentally flagged AustralianFan as the spammer. Only GBModerator could undo that. I do apologise profusely to @AustralianFan, sorry for that and hope it didn’t cause you too much anguish. So sorry if it also deleted any of your posts. And thanks for reporting spam, but in future DO NOT POST ON ANY OF THOSE THREADS. It can cause all sorts of probs if you do. You don’t need to tell them they’ve been reported and we’ll find them anyway - they’re not exactly subtle.
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  36. Looks really nice lit up in red.
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  37. I think the IOC is more than ready to do that for them. Their silence indicates as such. After the Olympics you'll hear some token statements about human rights and the Olympics but I just don't see any retribution coming China's way. If anything the more time that passes, the better for China unfortunately especially in the day of social media where what's trending changes on a dime. When the curtain rises on the opening ceremonies I would bet this will be pushed by the wayside and the athletes will be told it is not up to discussion or protest. This situation reminds me a lot of the Saudi Arabia-Jamal Khashoggi saga and he was murdered in a Saudi embassy on audio and while there was some protest it died down quickly. Meanwhile the likes of the OCA have no issue with KSA hosting major sporting events.
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  38. completely agreed there. I cannot think of anyone besides Japan successfully pulling that off the way that they did. The IOC was extraordinarily fortunate that they awarded a games to Tokyo. It absolutely was the best case scenario under the circumstances
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  39. The Zaha Hadid stadium was an ugly expensive monstrosit so I'm glad they went with something more reasonable.
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  40. Empty seats in Beijing might be the best thing to happen for Sapporo 2030... never underestimate the desire in both China and Japan to outdo the other one. Why do you think Tokyo initially decided on a stadium that was impossible to build?
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  41. Little update: the politician withdrew his candicacy due to the current turmoil in DOSB. Weikert is clear fave to win the vote now. At least he seems smarter than the dilettant current DOSB leadership, though a 2030 bid is likely DOA. The IOC would love to see it, I guess.
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  42. Interesting about that Polish luger… Chinese censoring already warming up too: https://twitter.com/tomaszsajewicz/status/1458003408678363139?s=21
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  43. Their National Games opening ceremony, even with the current Covid situation, and the anniversary of the CCP ceremony at Bird Nest were of a huge scale. Its no doubt they will do something big, specially if they can add more salt into the wound of a country they've never liked much such as Japan. Anyway, it started snowing in Beijing earlier than expected
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  44. Saw bits of the Nanjing 2014 OC. China always know how to put on a show.
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  45. The video I was waiting for: the behind the scenes of the ceremony… After watching this I can infer: - 5:10 “17 days to go and there’s still a lot to do”… what should confirm us that it DID was an improvised ceremony… - 8:13 The solitaire men walking outside the stadium at the moment the fireworks explode remind me how sad it was… No cheers, no emotions… - “Viva” was the documentary that showed us how the ceremony in Rio was created and ot lasted about 40 minutes. Here in just 10 minutes they show us how the preparation of this ceremony was… I think, more minutes can just take out to the light the internal argues that led us to this “funeral ceremony” we witnessed. - Anyway, part of the original soundtrack of the ceremony is heard. Hope to be released one day. (I love the original music of the “wooden rings”)
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  46. Emperor's cup final in early January will be the first ever event played here in the finally finished olympic stadium.
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