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  1. It feels like I subscribed to a newsfeed from a local paper in South Queensland.
    3 points
  2. After cancelling the games due to covid, no foreign spectators, athletes competing at a high risk, hundred of athletes missing the games due to sanitary reasons, millions of dollars in lost, 80% of Japanese against the games, the most difficult Games ever to carry out ... a caludron who could set the stadium on fire... is all what they needed!!!!!
    3 points
  3. It does feel like things have swung too far in the other direction doesn't it? If the previous process was too brutal, left too much bad feeling amongst losers and populations who watched live on big screens in city squares as their bids failed, this process seems to be too secretive, and we're still getting cities complaining which is what Bach wanted to avoid! So even on its own terms it's not quite worked. And yes, it's open to accusations of cronyism even if none has taken place. I know that annoys some people, but that's why transparency of process is important. I can see what the in
    3 points
  4. Here's the issue the IOC has right now and I've seen some people echo this on Twitter... The IOC wants to play it both ways. I am sure that they will gladly push the narrative this summer - assuming the Olympics are a go - that they were responsible for the world coming back together. They were happy to push that North Korea/South Korea angle that it helped pave the way for peace talks. But now they're saying they don't get involved in world politics and want to avoid the discussion when it doesn't suit them. We can be pretty confident they won't say anything negative about China
    3 points
  5. Vancouver & SLC are actually in different times zones, but still, they’re only an hour apart from each other. Albertville ‘92 & Lillehammer ‘94 were in the same time zone. So two consecutive NA Winter Olympics should be no issue, if need be. But be careful of suggesting another double-award around here, or you could be labeled of having a “double fetish”.
    2 points
  6. I must have missed our referendum.
    2 points
  7. in my day job i'm a lawyer and in the past ive dealt with domain name disputes. i can tell you know auDA will roll over and turn over any .com.au domains with a quick lawyers letter, especilly when someone has 200 domains. one company i acted for had the aussie distribution rights for a productm and someone registed <producttrademark>.com.au with a competing product on it - AuDA assigned that to us within 10 days
    2 points
  8. This is a proposal of how the cauldron could be lit... a very original proposal based on a "mass cauldron lighting" http://pequenaperomatona.com/en/news-idea-for-the-olympic-flame-lighting-tokyo-2020/
    2 points
  9. I would say that the new rule is that there is no rule. That's what I object to, anyway. The IOC has moved from one form of bad governance (a near-kleptocratic oligarchy where decisions are based on how they personally benefit the voters) to another bad form of governance (a dictatorship in which decisions are based on the personal will of an executive).
    2 points
  10. I'm wondering if, had let's say...Jakarta...got the nod so early on by the IOC based on the "Agenda 2020 + New Norm", you would have defended all those changes all so vigorously as well or if you had posted endless rants as to why the IOC played unfairly.
    2 points
  11. So the Japanese organizers should pull the plug because someone else did a **** job of managing their event? Sports leagues and organizations have managed to do this without dozens of cases. Yes, it's a near impossible task to do for an event on the scale of the Olympics, but can we please stop over-reacting as if the only solution is to cancel the Olympics?
    2 points
  12. I expect the Sapporo bid to be scrapped following the Tokyo games. So much money has been spent and with these mega sized venues probably with only a handful of spectators, the Tokyo Olympics are headed for a major financial loss. Given that, I don't expect Japan to have much of an appetitie for spending more money on an Olympic bid so soon. I'd go as far to say the financial ramifications from Tokyo will keep Japan out of Olympic bidding for at least a decade if not more. If the IOC isn't serious about getting Salt Lake City on the phone, they need to be.
    2 points
  13. Coates plans to retire from AOC, wants to oversee Brisbane Games By Aaron Patrick on Mar 19, 2021 – 3.43pm The IOC has selected Brisbane as the preferred candidate for the 2032 Games, and could ratify the decision at a meeting of all 103 members just before the opening of the Tokyo Olympic Games in July. Mr Coates’ position in the international movement would automatically make him a board member of the Brisbane Games organising committee until 2024. After that, it would probably be up to the Queensland government to decide if the veteran sports
    2 points
  14. Sorry George_D, I should have clarified. At Athens 2004, there was 2 outside permanent pools, one 50m for the swimming competition and one permanent 25m pool in an area between the swimming pool and the next building, which was used for warm-up laps by swimmers and also some of the water polo preliminary rounds. There was in fact a third outside permanent pool which was the old diving pool but this was not used at Athens 2004 and was instead covered over to create extra space for swimming medal presentations and a temporary grandstand. As you said, there was also the permanent in
    2 points
  15. Please note: "Debate" in the IOC nowadays means that Bach writes a script, sends it to the members and let them act it out with various degrees of talent.
    2 points
  16. I'm not upset. I just point out that a) there's no transparency in the process despite the IOC pretending to learn from its past corruption and b) any neutral observer or governance expert would agree that Coates had way too many roles in all of this. And for the record: The German bid was embarassing and it's probably fine to give Brisbane the Olympics. But this could have been achieved through a clear and transparent process as well, though apparently the IOC didn't trust its own members to take the right decision and made a fait accompli.
    2 points
  17. The other tune is the theme song from the television show "Bonanza".
    1 point
  18. Well, guess what? NOKOR just bailed out of Tokyo 2020ne, supposedly for Covid reasons. I think that just killed a joint Korea bid. How can anyone really depend on a regime like NoKor's for anything? North Korea withdraws from Tokyo 2020 over COVID-19 fears (insidethegames.biz)
    1 point
  19. Really shouldn't reuse the Comm Games mascot.
    1 point
  20. Australian Fan, what are you posting about? Please. Tell us more, I am NOT getting the message.
    1 point
  21. Here is something I found about how the opening ceremony could possibly play out https://aramajapan.com/news/plans-for-the-original-tokyo-2020-opening-ceremony-leak/112714/
    1 point
  22. That said, I think there used to be an ignore function on this site, which I am not able to find atm. Does anybody know where it has gone? That would make these forums so much more readable.
    1 point
  23. Please (& not being facetious), but there has been much, much worse posted on here (& on a consistent basis) that literally got no one banned that actually deserved it. Or it literally took YEARS for action finally to be taken for downright insulting/discriminatory posts. It would literally be a travesty if a well-informed poster like you faced such discipline, especially for something that’s not too far off. I enjoy reading what you have to say a lot of time.
    1 point
  24. I like the idea of being able to write the number in one stoke. But there isn't much how to use it. The first can be any color and the should have shown that. They should have opened with the drawing on the cold window. Then shown it drawn in different colors in different situations. Like using a hockey stick in gravel. And a skater drawning it.
    1 point
  25. Bottom line, I think the Australia-Brisbane bid -- and locking it in soon -- exposes the IOC probably the least. I have this sinking feeling that Lloyds (of London) has advised the IOC to forget this foolish business of grand bidding contests and lock in the safe "bids" while they can, otherwise, Lloyds will double or triple the IOC's premiums. And as for Bach and the present crew, they will do that, and let the next generation of IOC leaders deal with any headaches as those Games actually approach -- besides which the next generation of IOC leaders will he facing the same situation anyway.
    1 point
  26. I don‘t think anyone was surprised about Brisbane bidding, they were surprised that the IOC acted in the way they did.
    1 point
  27. These are the three recent poll indicators across Queensland about the 2032 Brisbane/SEQ Bid. I don’t have Gold Coast specific poll numbers, nor Brisbane, nor Sunshine Coast. What I can show you are three recent majority support indicators: - Queensland State Election won in a Nov-20 landslide by the pro-Bid Government who won 52 seats to Opposition Party 34 seats who are also pro-Olympics. The anti-Olympics party minor ‘One Nation’ won only 1 seat. - the Anti-Olympics Petition run by the minor ‘One Nation’ party in 2020 was a dismal failure and signed by only 5,003 from a stat
    1 point
  28. I think the reason the IOC has pre-empted the competitive bidding process for '32 is because it wants to swing the Games (at least the summer) out of the Europe-Asia-No. America cycle. Since 2000, it's gone to Europe 3x (Athens, London, Paris), Asia 2x (Beijing, Tokyo), and 1x each for South and North America. Obviously, Africa isn't ready yet, and the WOGs just stay in the northern hemisphere. I also think NBC wants to know where 2032 will be held since that will be the last SOG in their current deal. It might influence the US broadcast rates for the next few cycles. So, after 7 Games,
    1 point
  29. Considering quite a bit of Olympic Stadium is made of wood, and knowing the Japanese penchant for simplicty, I think the cauldron at OS will be a small one and just off to the side. It cannot be near any of the wooden parts of the Stadium.
    1 point
  30. Let’s not kid ourselves here, though. The Games are struggling to find Host Cities (at least from Western nations anyway), because the IOC for decades was accustomed to getting their own way. Lavish venues & grandiose pomp & show. Every sequential host country tried to outdo the previous one by being even more extravagant, & the IOC loved it. But after to so many wild Olympic parties, the big hangover has now arrived. So the IOC is currently trying to do something more frugal because it has to, & not necessarily because they want to. I’m sure that they’d love to go back to
    1 point
  31. no. they lowered the bar to allow anyone to host. its called the new norm...
    1 point
  32. As for Budapest, for the last three days the Hungarian capital has been hosting the European Wrestling Olympic Qualification Tournament. 288 wrestlers across 35 European countries are competing. If any sport is going to risk the spread of Covid-19, its hard to think of one more likely to do so than wrestling. Have we heard yet of any positives coming out of this tournament? Definitely.
    1 point
  33. ‘An opportunity for Qld’: SEQ must build legacy if Games bid successful, Olympics boss says credit: brisbane times By Tony Moore March 19, 2021 — 5.45pm In the lead-up to the 2032 Olympic Games, national and international sporting bodies should base themselves in south-east Queensland, the preferred host bidder, Australia’s Olympics boss said during a visit to Brisbane on Friday. The idea was one of 20 economic and cultural potential legacies of the 2032 Games proposed by the Committee for Brisbane, if the region was confirmed as the host o
    1 point
  34. it would be madness to not keep him on BOGOG - his experiance and connections alone would be worth it
    1 point
  35. I'd prefer to see them host the World Athletics Championships and FINA World Championships and they've both been mentioned as goals in the media since Brisbane was announcd as preferred candidate.
    1 point
  36. Yes I loved the outdoor pool at Athens 2004, I ended up going to the Monday night swimming finals and was a glorious electric atmospher Yes, you’re right, the two outdoor pools were permanent and the additional grandstand seating was temporary. I would wander over and watchthe swimmers doing warm up laps in that second pool. I went over to Athens 2004 and worked as a volunteer there for 3 weeks and had the best time, especially that night at the swimming, seeing Ian Thorpe win a gold medal and some other aussie medallists that night too. I’ll have to dig up my photos from that
    1 point
  37. Yes I loved the outdoor pool at Athens 2004, I ended up going to the Monday night swimming finals and was a glorious electric atmospher Yes, you’re right, the two outdoor pools were permanent and the additional grandstand seating was temporary. I would wander over and watchthe swimmers doing warm up laps in that second pool. I went over to Athens 2004 and worked as a volunteer there for 3 weeks and had the best time, especially that night at the swimming, seeing Ian Thorpe win a gold medal and some other aussie medallists that night too. I’ll have to dig up my photos from that
    1 point
  38. The basketball arena is a different arena to the Brisbane Live arena (you can see a picture of the Brisbane Live arena for swimming in the IOC's feasibility document). I honestly think they should just use Brisbane Live for basketball and move the swimming to the Gold Coast Aquatic Centre but then I suspect they want give the swimming the best possible venue because it's our most successful sport by far.
    1 point
  39. the proposal is that the new privately funded brisbane live venue will have a temp pool installed for the swimming. Nissan Arena has a capacity of 5000 in basketball / netball config. i am unsure how many they can reclaim by adding additonal seats but i suspect it is at a minimum 500 it's not out of the realms of possibility that the north Ipswich reserve will get an upgrade anyway to NRL standard, should the Ipswich bid to join the NRL is sucessful over the redcliffe dolphins bid, which should be announced later this year
    1 point
  40. It's nice people are suggesting London again, but I can't see it so soon after 2012. Madrid feels like a city that could be tempted back but I think they got severe bidding fatigue. They feel like a city who'd be ideal for conferring preferred bidding status on so they won't have to be put through another brutal vote. If I were the IOC I'd be pushing for this to happen. Budapest, I can see it. They were the forgotten child of the 2024/28 bid process but they did hang on until the end unlike every other bid besides Paris and LA. They're quietly building some impressive facilities and
    1 point
  41. There'd be consequences if Biden (or anyone else) interferes with USOPC's autonomy.
    1 point
  42. It's really disappointing that Qatar insists on hosting events they are so poorly suited for. They would be solid hosts for the Cricket World Cup; the tournament can easily be scheduled for February and most of the people living in Qatar are from India, Bangladesh and Nepal and enjoy cricket. Yet they have no interest in cricket's world cup. Meanwhile, there is no chance they would be able to host the Olympics in 40+ C heat during July. Every sport in the world would have to change their schedule to accommodate a summer Olympics held in the winter so Qatar could host. Then again I th
    1 point
  43. Removing the Aussie glasses would do wonders... Maybe Brisbane really is the best option for 2032, but denying that Coates with his several hats on played an instrumental role in the least transparent Olympic bidding process of the last few decades is denying reality. Also: You can abstain from voting and still have huge influence on the other voters.
    1 point
  44. The evidence is in the pudding ? What sort of talk is that? Slogans are not evidence, just words. Evidence of what exactly? What crime or rule-breaking do you think has been broken by John Coates? If you are going to slander someone, anyone from afar, in a public forum such as this, then you need to be clear about exactly what you are accusing them of and have evidence to back yourself up.
    1 point
  45. It makes those lists that some people made in the past of the “host cities for the next 100 years” seem a lot more plausible now! Lmfao
    1 point
  46. Wait, Brisbane is going to host 2032 games? Sorry i've been disconnected from everything. I mean, remember when there were actual bid races because people actually wanted to host the games? Anyway congratulations to Australia i guess
    1 point
  47. Why didn't they Gamesbids run the comp??? Seriously, for a country renowned for design, the second one looks like it was created by a ten year old. A snowflake- again.....urgh. I went with the grey white 'embossed' design. But it aint great.
    1 point
  48. Not Doha suddenly being touted by people here as a good alternative after being mocked for the longest time . And then Indonesia? Hopefully Joko Widodo isn't executing any people when the IOC visit. Or hey maybe a joint bid between South Korea and a dictatorship? Or yeah, Shanghai, i'm sure everyone is going to be flocking to go to China after everything that's happened in the last 16 months or so. Maybe Wuhan might host some events too? Gee its a real surprise why the IOC is rushing to pick a city in Australia, the country that handled Covid one of the best in the w
    1 point
  49. I read similiar aritcle. In Dezember above 50 % of japanese people criticized the goverment for not taking the Covid-19 pandemic serious enough ( NHK World TV). New surveys say, that 80 % Japanese represent the opinion the Oylpic Games should be postponed or cancelled. I think that is a huge majority of the of the japanese society.
    1 point
  50. Okay I know it's a tad bit early but we are almost half way done with 2019. As expected, I think the Tokyo olympics are going to set the standard for what the games should be (At least management wise). If you're as excited as me, then please share. My only concern is the number of tourist have increased dramatically which is hurting the local culture (Especially in Kyoto). So if you're planning to attend, please be a respectable tourist. We only have one Japan on this planet (I wish we had more).
    1 point
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