AustralianFan Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Pyranees-Barcelona-Zaragoza 2030 holding first technical commission meeting …. Edited March 25, 2022 by Sir Rols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 If the bid drops the Pyrenees as I think it should, does Zaragosa have enough of the high peaks and snow that they will need in 2030? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 7:07 PM, baron-pierreIV said: If the bid drops the Pyrenees as I think it should, does Zaragosa have enough of the high peaks and snow that they will need in 2030? With Jaca yes. Zaragoza's problem is the lack of indoor arenas for the ice events hence the need for Barcelona. Of more concern is the nordic and sliding events. My guess is Albertville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportLightning Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 73% of support of the 2030 Winter Olympics to Barcelona and Puranees Spain and France. That's the good news for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Is Ice Hockey even played in Barcelona? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichfan Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, baron-pierreIV said: Is Ice Hockey even played in Barcelona? FC Barcelona has got a hockey department which plays in the highest Spanish league. So, technically ice hockey IS played in Barcelona. It should be far from a professional level, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 I know someone in Barcelona who is active in a curling team. It‘s not like there‘s no winter sports in Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichfan Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Bach getting this news from an online news outlet (or at least saying to have done so) should tell us enough on how interested the IOC is in a Spanish bid for 2030. If anything, this is further prove of them just waiting for the Sapporo survey outcome before they award 2030 and - hopefully - 2034. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, munichfan said: Bach getting this news from an online news outlet (or at least saying to have done so) should tell us enough on how interested the IOC is in a Spanish bid for 2030. If anything, this is further prove of them just waiting for the Sapporo survey outcome before they award 2030 and - hopefully - 2034. He made this claim though in an interview with ATR, seems more like a little deal between the site and him to boost their reputation ("Hey, even the IOC boss takes us as a source for bid news"). Either way, it's more meaningless bla bla from Fencing 1976. Has he ever given any insightful interviews? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichfan Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 He's usually "excited for" or "happy to see" or "embrazing" or "looking forward to" a bid. "Well, I guess, if that's what they wanna do, I guess let them do it" just seems like showing them the middle finger to me in comparison. But yeah, I'm probably reading too much into this. It's Bach, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted January 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 This is section of the interview where Thomas Bach is saying that it is an important qualification that public opinion of a candidature is gauged. But he also says how that public opinion is measured is up to the Spanish Olympic Committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustralianFan Posted February 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 More on Barcelona co-hosting … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 Now Sarajevo comes in as well. Pyrenees-Szaragozajevo-Barcelona 2030 will be the new name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 really not a fan of how the IOC are letting hosts share names. It is just confusing. The 2026 W olympics for example should just be called Milan 2026. And same with 2030, Barcelona 2030 looks and feels better then Pyranees-Barcelona-Zaragoza 2030. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, kiwi said: really not a fan of how the IOC are letting hosts share names. It is just confusing. The 2026 W olympics for example should just be called Milan 2026. And same with 2030, Barcelona 2030 looks and feels better then Pyranees-Barcelona-Zaragoza 2030. Having Cortina in the name signals it‘s regional across Northern Italy, in line with Agenda 2020 etc Milan (plus Lombardy resorts like Bormio) wouldn‘t have been able to do this without bringing either of the two previous Italian hosts on board for ski jumping & sliding. That came with a price tag. And Barcelona couldn‘t do it all alone either, further complicated by the very tense Spanish interior politics and regional rivalries. The failed German bid 2032 was also named Rhine-Ruhr to avoid giving an advantage to any city, making it an even tougher sell to the public in the rest of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 In which case, time to bite the bullet and award/denote whole countries. Maybe once it becomes officially national scale, Sweden might have a chance because they wouldn't just need Stockholm anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 hours ago, yoshi said: In which case, time to bite the bullet and award/denote whole countries. Maybe once it becomes officially national scale, Sweden might have a chance because they wouldn't just need Stockholm anymore... I think this is the only way you can get much of Western Europe interested in hosting the WOGs again. Let there be country-wide bids or even cross national bids involving countries who cannot host the ski events such as the Netherlands or Finland. 6 hours ago, StefanMUC said: Now Sarajevo comes in as well. Pyrenees-Szaragozajevo-Barcelona 2030 will be the new name. On another note, I had a student last year who created a WOGs joint bid between Sarajevo and Belgrade as part of "international reconciliation." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 Sweden is really the classic example of that too - they've clearly got good enough snow facilities around Åre, but the nearest proper size city is Trondheim...in Norway. A joint bid would be such an ideal way of spreading the hosting burden while still keeping it compact, but the IOC is so inflexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportLightning Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 2023 is when we will find out if they Barcelona is awarded the 2030 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, SportLightning said: 2023 is when we will find out if they Barcelona is awarded the 2030 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. It could be… or it could be this year. The IOC doesn’t have any firm timetable any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichfan Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 From everything we know, the IOC will try to get this done by the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichfan Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 2022, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 9 hours ago, munichfan said: From everything we know, the IOC will try to get this done by the summer. Yeah, and almost certainly the nitty gritty is being done right now at lots of dinners and private meetings over drinks between IOC members at various Beijing hotels. I’m sure JAS jr is hosting a few of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 So Spain just won its 5th Winter medal ever, no less by a Catalan residing in Barcelona. I‘m sure they‘ll want to make her a poster face of the bid now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 Addition: she‘s also the first Catalan ever to win a Winter medal. When I looked it up, I found out that both Fernandez Ochoa siblings are dead already I really liked Blanca as she was unique fighting the Swiss-Austrian dominance in the late 80s/early 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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