StefanMUC Posted April 12, 2022 Report Posted April 12, 2022 2 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said: And then of the "regular" countries, I think it would be Belgium for Antwerp 1920 for the regular SOGs--as the smallest sovereign country to have hosted an Olympic Games. Finland says no. Quote
StefanMUC Posted April 12, 2022 Report Posted April 12, 2022 Oh I see…not talking about population here. Quote
fatixxx Posted April 12, 2022 Report Posted April 12, 2022 20 hours ago, yoshi said: I mean at this point, are Aragon just gonna dump Catalonia and go it alone - if this bid has any future at all? Between Zaragoza, Jaca, Andorra, and whatever else is in Aragon (tbh I don't know any other cities there) is there enough for all the indoor sports that Barcelona would've had? it is better to name it as the "Zaragoza 2030" bid, with inclusion of Huesca and Jaca (all in Aragon region/province) a branching in Andorra (for freestyle for exampke) would spook whole the bid it can be names also the ARAGON 2030 bid but prefered a city name rather then region name (aka pyeongchang 2018) but its vice versa COE wishes that aragon supports the catalonian bid instead of Barcelona CAN support a zaragoza bid the spaniards can have a 2ND olympic city in history, Barcelona doesnt need a 2nd olympic ettiquette the Samaranch-Junior COE wants to create a SARAJEVO-LEGACY-ROMANTISM that could cost respectively a lot of mony and organisational problems, but they want to surpass/exceed the GRANADA 2015 WINTER UNIVERSIADE example.. could it be called succes that at those 2015 winter universiade the ski-jumping & nordic-combined leg was organised on slovakian soil in STRBSKE PLESO >> 2015 Winter Universiade - Wikipedia ° this worked in 2015 on smaller scale.. would it be a succes on larger scale.. ° the gliding-center in TREBEVICE-SARAJEVO awaits a decent reconstruction and/or refurbishing ° the ski-jump facility at MALO POLJE-IGMAN mountain awaits the same costs to make viable/feasable ° meanwhike SARAJEVO has build a lot of better hotels and already-succesfully organised the WINTER EYOF 2019 ° 2030-1984=46 years of samaranch-sarajevo legacy > 2034-1984=50 years sarajevo-again (with exellent flora/snow) >> is this project doable achievable AND would this bring a unique refreshment in olympic hisyory? COE goes for this?! i found here a black/white video about the preparations for the ski-jumping facilty build with man-power back then - for about 40 seconds beginning from minute 5:00 + a view of todays malo polje ski jump towers.. source: Malo Polje, Sarajevo » Ski Jumping Hill Archive » skisprungschanzen.com source: Skakaonice na Igmanu (sa-c.net) // RECONSTRUCTION PLANS Quote
SportLightning Posted April 12, 2022 Report Posted April 12, 2022 That would be difficult with Andorra for freestyle skiing. Quote
fatixxx Posted April 12, 2022 Report Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, SportLightning said: That would be difficult with Andorra for freestyle skiing. sportlithing.. please stop with re-producing (with each time 1) sentence of previous comments of other users.. you do this in every thread.. you dont read with counsciousness whats written and are reproducing only sentences to have written something.. STOP with that because you are causing a miscommunication.. i said AS EXAMPLE freestyle in ANDORRA.. it is an example.. >> but your re-produced sentence of mine creates an atmosphere as there IS/HAS been made a decission by the COE (Committee Olympic of Espana).. THATS NOT TRUE İT İS ONLY AN EXAMPLE.. DONT PRODUCE IN A DRY WAY SENTENCES OF OTHER USERS.. think twice what there is written.. please !! BTW why would it be difficult for andorra to organise freestyle skiing? do you have scientific information on this issue that we dont have.. on wich criteria DO YOU THİNK that it would be difficult.. give some MORE sentences of your own thinking! 1 Quote
fatixxx Posted April 15, 2022 Report Posted April 15, 2022 for those who are interested about an eventual use of the sarajevo gliding center in a barcelona 2030 bid.. i made an amateur research on that gliding-facility.. to understand an eventual cluster in the balcan-region.. Quote
Guilga Posted May 27, 2022 Report Posted May 27, 2022 This bid is gonna crash and burn by itself before a referendun even has a shot in doing so. That´s News for the Olympic world this times at least. Quote
iceman530 Posted May 27, 2022 Report Posted May 27, 2022 Yup, this things dead man walking. Just call it dead now and try for the summer Madrid bid Quote
AustralianFan Posted May 28, 2022 Author Report Posted May 28, 2022 Yes, they can’t seem to agree on major things, which doesn’t bode well for successful 2030 dialogue with the IOC. Quote
fusilli Posted May 29, 2022 Report Posted May 29, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbyjKxMCy8o&ab_channel=9NEWS This garganturesque structure and the infinite time to finish it just shows much about local obstinacy Quote
htg61484 Posted June 12, 2022 Report Posted June 12, 2022 On 5/29/2022 at 2:54 PM, fusilli said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbyjKxMCy8o&ab_channel=9NEWS This garganturesque structure and the infinite time to finish it just shows much about local obstinacy Now this... You might have a more workable idea than whatever COE is having with that bid. It would indeed keep the focus at the place where the action is mostly at, even though Barcelona part´s might be the thing made to lure that IOC votes. Quote
Guilga Posted June 15, 2022 Report Posted June 15, 2022 Quote Pyrenees-Barcelona bid for 2030 Winter Olympics on brink of collapse with COE set to announce withdrawal Add comment By Patrick Burke The Pyrenees-Barcelona bid for the 2030 Winter Olympic Games is reportedly on the brink of collapse, with the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE) poised to withdraw the project unless a late agreement is reached between the Governments of Aragon and Catalonia. Infighting over issues including the allocation of events has hampered progress on the project. International Olympic Committee (IOC) technical inspections have taken place in Sapporo, Vancouver and Salt Lake City, who are all aiming to host the Games in 2030, but a visit of a delegation to Spain was delayed by the COE. Last month, referenda in nine of Catalonia's 42 comarques scheduled for July 24 were postponed, with the regional Government's Minister of the Presidency Laura Vilagrà Pons blaming "uncertainty". Four in-person meeting s have been held between representatives of the COE, the Spanish Government and regional administrations in Aragon and Catalonia since the end of April, most recently last Tuesday (June 7). Aragon's Minister of Education and Sports Felipe Faci insisted that the bid needed to be put forward "in equal footing", and that Alpine skiing events must be shared between the two regions, as reported by Aragon-based newspaper Heraldo. However, Heraldo has reported that the parties are no closer to an agreement, and the COE President Alejandro Blanco could withdraw Pyrenees-Barcelona's candidacy in the near future. There are no further meetings are currently planned between Governmental representatives. The Government of Aragon is unhappy with the distribution of events for the 2030 Winter Olympics, and President Javier Lambán has not spoken to the COE since the end of March ©Getty Images The Government of Aragon is unhappy with the distribution of events for the 2030 Winter Olympics, and President Javier Lambán has not spoken to the COE since the end of March ©Getty Images A standalone bid from Aragon or Catalonia has been mooted, with the latter believed to be best placed for this to proceed as an option. The Generalitat's President Pere Aragonès and Vilagrà met with the Prime Minister of Sarajevo Canton Edin Forto in April to discuss the possibility of some sports holding their competitions in Bosnia and Herzegovina's capital, notably the sliding events. However, a bid from Catalonia could face opposition from Spanish President Pedro Sánchez amid support for separatism in the region, with Catalan newspaper Ara noting the central Government's reservations over such a proposal. The region voted for independence in a 2017 referendum before it was declared unconstitutional by the Spanish Government. The relationship between the Government in Aragon and the COE is strained. Aragon's President Javier Lambán has said that he is "anything but optimistic" for the 2030 bid, as reported by Heraldo, and has not spoken to Blanco since the end of March. Spain has never held the Winter Olympics, although Barcelona was a Summer Games host in 1992. The IOC is aiming to name the 2030 host at next year's Session in Mumbai. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1124488/pyrenees-barcelona-2030-brink-collapse It´s over now. Quote
FYI Posted June 15, 2022 Report Posted June 15, 2022 And then there were three.. this is starting to look like the 2022, 2026 races all over again. Quote
Brekkie Boy Posted June 21, 2022 Report Posted June 21, 2022 Gutting but not surprising that this has once again come to nothing. Guess North America it is then. Quote
Guilga Posted June 21, 2022 Report Posted June 21, 2022 Goodbye Barcelona 2030, finally. I hope they get on their senses and try summer 2036 next. Quote
htg61484 Posted June 24, 2022 Report Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 1:11 PM, htg61484 said: Now this... You might have a more workable idea than whatever COE is having with that bid. It would indeed keep the focus at the place where the action is mostly at, even though Barcelona part´s might be the thing made to lure that IOC votes. AND IT´S FINALLY DONE. Goodbye, disjointed spanish bid, you lasted far longer than you should had. NOW GO FOR A SUMMER GAMES ALREADY! Quote
htg61484 Posted June 24, 2022 Report Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, htg61484 said: AND IT´S FINALLY DONE. Goodbye, disjointed spanish bid, you lasted far longer than you should had. Writing academic papers on your own can be difficult and I understand why you want help! I love btec assignments! This service helps to develop and you can find help with writing academic papers here! I really liked that service because professional writers work here and you can be sure of the quality! NOW GO FOR A SUMMER GAMES ALREADY! Nashville is too hot there. It has to be another country as a potential bidder could step in. I already mention Borjomi (Georgia. There's also Almaty (Kazakhstan) who almost got the 2022 edition, Leipzig (Germany) looking for the bid for the second time but winter, Savoy (France) looking to bring the Winter Olympics back to the French soil and finally Sarajevo (Bosnia and Herzegovina) hoping to host for the second time as it did in 1984. One of them could replace Barcelona as the fourth candidate. Quote
SportLightning Posted June 24, 2022 Report Posted June 24, 2022 6 hours ago, htg61484 said: Nashville is too hot there. It has to be another country as a potential bidder could step in. I already mention Borjomi (Georgia. There's also Almaty (Kazakhstan) who almost got the 2022 edition, Leipzig (Germany) looking for the bid for the second time but winter, Savoy (France) looking to bring the Winter Olympics back to the French soil and finally Sarajevo (Bosnia and Herzegovina) hoping to host for the second time as it did in 1984. One of them could replace Barcelona as the fourth candidate. I'm with you on that, i think Borjomi could step in. Quote
Bear Posted July 3, 2022 Report Posted July 3, 2022 and the drama continues... Quote Aragon President Lambán claims COE was aiding Catalan independence with 2030 Winter Olympics bid Aragon President Javier Lambán has claimed that the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE) was an acting as ally to the Catalan independence movement through its perceived bias towards the region during the ill-fated Pyrenees-Barcelona 2030 bid process. ... Former Spanish basketball player and International Olympic Committee (IOC) Athletes' Commission member Pau Gasol is among those to have expressed frustration at collapse of the bid. "The decision of the COE seems right to me because the candidacy has tried to politicise, especially from the part of Aragon," Gasol said. "As Alejandro Blanco [COE President] has said, Catalonia has had exemplary behaviour and of which I am proud." This, as well as other criticism, triggered Lambán to hit back on Twitter. Lambán said three-time Olympic medallist Gasol "should be better informed" and claimed "sporting criteria" was not dictating the COE's actions. "In this case, it has been an ally of [Catalan] independence", Lambán claimed. ... full article here: https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1125186/lamban-claims-coe-catalan-ally-2030 Quote
Booville Posted August 9, 2022 Report Posted August 9, 2022 Spain were always going to struggle to put together a bid. At present it seems that if you do not have the two key pieces of infrastructure - hill & sliding run - you are always going to be up against it. In Europe you are likely looking at the following Lyon/Grenoble - to take advantage of the facilities in the French Alps and also squeak the arenas (1992) Zurich/St Moritz - with the hill at Engleberg if they could only pass a referendum (1948) Munich - probably the most ready candidate (1936) Oslo/Lillehammer (1994) Salzburg/Innsbruck (1976) Everywhere else will struggle to host but if France, Germany, Norway, Switzerland, or Austria put together even an average bid they'd have to be considered amongst the favourites if not the favourites if only because none of these major Winter Sports nations have hosted for at least 28years (and 36years by 2030) Quote
SportLightning Posted August 9, 2022 Report Posted August 9, 2022 Barcelona is setting up a solo bid for the 2030 Olympics. Quote
BigVic Posted August 13, 2022 Report Posted August 13, 2022 Beijing style Summer/Winter double games Quote
fusilli Posted August 14, 2022 Report Posted August 14, 2022 ^^ yeah.. sub-title "Madrid can't"(do the winters) Quote
AustralianFan Posted September 3, 2022 Author Report Posted September 3, 2022 On 9/3/2022 at 6:46 AM, SportLightning said: Barcelona 2030 could use Sarajevo. 18 hours ago, AustralianFan said: The Barcelona 2030 bid has been withdrawn and is not going ahead. 17 hours ago, SportLightning said: I heard a while they may do solo bid. 16 hours ago, AustralianFan said: I really don’t think they have enough time given that since the June bid withdrawl announcement in June, the IOC have indicated that this December they will announce a preferred bidder fir 2030 to be elevated to Targeted Dialogue for election in May 2023. The Spanish bid team have simply run out of time for a solo bid at 2030. In the meantime, Milano-Cortina 2026 still have some important decisions to be made around planning and venues. 1 hour ago, SportLightning said: We'll see about that. Spain withdraws bid for 2030 due to political row - Reuters - 22 June 2022 The IOC Executive Board Meeting is Dec 5-7 2022 in Lausanne where they said they will announce to the world a preferred bidder for 2030 Winter Games which is expected to be either Sapporo or Salt Lake City (Vancouver looking unlikely). There is only 3 minths to go before that meeting and I’m sorry to say but any prospect of a solo bid for the 2020 by Catalayans is not going to happen because the Spanish have run out of time for any solo bid 90 days to go before that all-important the IOC Executive Board Meeting. Quote
AustralianFan Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Posted October 4, 2022 “The Government's figure comprised costs for three elements - creativity €28,765 (£25,100/$28,440) multimedia € 203,996.77 (£178,000/$201,700) and digital €96,920.24 (£84,570/$95,800).” “The three amounts added together result in a total of €329,682.01 for advertising in favour of the Olympic Games.“ Quote
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