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It all depends on which city actually bids for the Olympics and who most meets the New Norm IOC Host Selection requirements, whether or not they have previously hosted the Olympic Games or not. New Norm Olympic bids are assessed on things such as: using as much existing sporting venues where possible, if a new venue/stadium needs to be built, having a realistic and viable legacy plan for ongoing usage of that new venue/stadium following the Games. This means having a plan that will convince the IOC Future Host Commission that the new venue/stadium really will continue to be used after the Games and not be an eyesore unused white elephant that rarely gets used ever again, Financial Guarantee by the host city’s national government environmentally sustainable how well that bid fits in with existing regional and national development plans, and how well the bid fits within the long-term strategic goals of the Olympic Movement. I know you support the Istanbul 2036 bid which is competing with 10-12 world cities for the 2036 Olympic and Paralympic Games, which includes two cities who are previous hosts. But it’s not about cities “taking turns” to host the Olympics. Its all about which bidder is more competitive than the others in that field against the IOC’s New Norm requirements. We’re expecting the 2036 Host to be decided and elected in the next 1-2 years and so we will find out then who that will be.

Autumn Olympic Games on the horizon The IOC Executive Board recently flagged that due to the warming global climate that they are seriously considering allowing future ‘Summer Olympic Games’ to be held in cooler months, eg northern hemisphere autumn. Tokyo 2020 was badly hit by heatwaves and their marathon started in the cooler early morning, as it did ar Paris 2024. Such a rule change would involve a relaxation to the IOC’s current mandatory July/August hosting requirement. Such a hosting rule change would open the door for countries such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia to host the Games in say November as they absolutely cannot host in the oppressive deadly heat of July/August. Brisbane 2032 is being held in winter time but a milder, drier winter than say Sydney or Melbourne. The IOC July/August rule was introduced after the Sydney 2000 Games were held in September (spring).

Since then, these new flying on foils super fast Formula 1 class of America’s Cup yachts are so so quick, it’s literally like watching an F1 Race on water. Incredible technological advances since that SF regatta where a much slower class of yacht was deemed to be “fast” at the time.

…. and that’s only in the lead-up races over two months. The FINAL Americas Cup Match Races are about to start in a few hours and no doubt lots of Britons and yachtieswill have made the quick flight over to Barcelona to see if Great Britain currently in red hot form can win the Americas Cup for the first time since the first race 173 years ago in 1851.

Wrong. Barcelona defends the America’s Cup as a fan magnet “The Barcelona’s city council has defended the crowd-drawing power of the 2024 America’s Cup, 1.6 million people have encountered the event in the city since it began.” ”The council said the count included people who had passed through the downtown Race Village and two other fan zones, plus Port Olympic where the Youth and Women’s Cup teams are based.” The Americas Cup has been running for two months now over these past two months while the challenger races have whittled the final down to one. The cumulative figure of visitors to Barcelona for this Americas Cup series over these past two months is huge, as it always has been whenever the Americas Cup has been held in recent decades and now as well. “The council said the figures excluded people attending private functions or watching from informal public spaces, such as the beaches looking out onto the race course.” Newspaper El Pais reported council officials had said the countinghappened only during the opening hours of the official fan areas, and only on race days. “The figures include people who have repeatedly visited areas.” The Final Americas Cup Matche Races actually start in 11 hours between Emirates Team New Zealand and Ineos Brittania. Barcelona defends the America’s Cup as a fan magnet

@texan Barcelona is also hosting the Americas Cup Races at the moment which has brought thousands more tourists to the city so those residents who are already unhappy will like it even less. As far as several of the above interested parties for the 2036 Games who, like Istanbul, have plenty of existing venues and stadiums, including Seoul, Barcelona, Doha, Budapest, Istanbul remains in this field very competitve. It will be up to the IOC Future Host Commission to have discussions with each of the twelve interested parties for the 2036 Games to then decide who is elevated to Targeted Dialogue as ‘preferred bidder’.

Incomplete Sunshine Coast rail line would be 'embarrassment' at 2032 Olympics, opposition says This ABC News Australia report from September is of the Queensland LNP Opposition Leader’s vow to, via his 100-day 2032 review of Olympic projects to find a way to extend he Sunshine Coast heavy rail link right through to the Maroochydore city centre by the Brisbane 2032 Games. This would be great news for spectators, visitors and residents at the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games should the LNP win government and the rail extension from Caloundra to the Marooydore centre becomes a reality. It would form an integral part of the Olympic Transport Network and have lasting legacy benefits for residents and growth in the region. “Nineteen kilometres of the spur line have been funded to finish at Caloundra by 2032 as part of stage one, with the remaining 19km to Maroochydore yet to be funded or given a timeline.” “However, the LNP has promised a 100-day review of the 2032 Brisbane Olympics and Paralympic infrastructure.” “LNP leader David Crisafulli said Queenslanders did not want to be embarrassed by "under investment" on the international stage during the home Olympic Games.” "Queenslanders need to have pride in the Olympics and Paralympic Games," he said. "We do have a plan for generational infrastructure … that looks like road and rail, but it also looks like having stadiums that Queenslanders can be proud of." “Deputy Opposition leader Jarrod Bleijie said the 100-day review would work out how to build the full 38km Sunshine Coast heavy rail line from Beerburrum to Maroochydore by 2032, to ensure there is adequate transport for the region "inclusive of the Mooloolah River Interchange, which is on the same transport corridor as that rail project". Credit: Incomplete Sunshine Coast rail line would be ’embaressment’ at 2033 Olympics, opposition says - ABC News Australia, 19 Sep 2024

From Catalan News: Barcelona opens door to hosting future Olympic Games again The Barcelona city council has opened the door to possibly hosting a future Olympic Games again. "We are always open to it, be it for 2036, 2040 or 2044," the councilor for sports, David Escudé, said at business event RethinkBCN. Sports, the councilor said, makes up an "intangible part of city pride that is very important." Escudé also explained that some of the facilities that were built for the 1992 Olympic Games now need updating, and suggested that he is confident of being able to give "very good news" at some point soon. *************************** Also from Francs Jeux.com: “The IOC can rub its hands: the list of cities, regions or countries interested in hosting the Summer Games in 2036 could well be extended by a new line soon. It is not anecdotal. And will bring back not so distant memories to the Olympic movement.” “Barcelona City Council's sports advisor, David Escudé, explained it this week at an economic conference: the Catalan city is thinking of bidding once again for the Summer Games. "The Olympic flame still burns in Barcelona, he admitted. We are open to the 2036 edition, or to the following ones in 2040 or 2044. We are open to all opportunities, to everything that may arise.” “Nothing is official yet. But the sports advisor's statements are not empty words. David Escudé acknowledged that the facilities built for the 1992 Summer Games are no longer up to standard for the event. Some of them should be modernized. But he suggested that he was confident that he would soon be able to announce "very good news”. “Barcelona has its doors and windows open, he said. We listen to everyone, all the projects that come to us are interesting, there is no immediate no, on the contrary. We will listen and we will work together without any limits, being very ambitious.” “A bid for the Olympic and Paralympic Games in 2036? Not so fast. The Catalan acknowledges that many things can happen in the coming years, especially on the political level. The withdrawal of the Pyrenees and Barcelona's bid for the Winter Games in 2030 illustrated the extreme difficulty in Spain of uniting and federating all the political and regional forces around a project.” “But one thing is certain: the Catalan city wants to play a major role on the international sports scene. David Escudé explained this week that Barcelona aims to organize at least one major sporting and/or cultural event every year.” “For 2024, the ambition has been fulfilled by hosting the America's Cup since August. "A success », according to the sports advisor. And a " perfect illustration of what can be achieved with public/private collaboration.” “For the future, the city has already secured the Grand Départ of the Tour de France cycling race in 2026. It is also eyeing the World Cup final in 2030, an edition awarded by FIFA to Spain, Portugal and Morocco (with matches in South America), also coveted by Morocco. "We must be ambitious, suggested David Escudé. If we don't fight for the best, we can't aspire to anything. Let's aim for the final, obviously.” “The Catalan suggested that the city was carrying out " discreet discussions » to attract the biggest sporting events. The Catalans do not forbid themselves anything. But, cautious, they prefer to advance their pawns with wisdom and patience.” *****************

Add Barcelona to the list of interested parties to host in 2036. Ahmedabad 2036 Barcelona 2036 - Catalan News and Francs Jeux media reports Budapest 2036 Chile 2036 Capetown 2036 Copenhagen 2036 Doha 2036 Cairo 2036 Istanbul 2036 Nusantara 2036 Saudi Arabia 2036 Seoul 2036

Yes its being reported across several other media outlets as well including Catalan News and Francs Jeux. It seems from these reports Barcelona are an interested party who have not yet conveyed their interest to the IOC Future Host Commission. Perhaps this sports official/politician Escude is testing public opinion and wider political support as well? Barcelona is currently hosting the 2024 Americas Cup and so plenty of attention is on this beautiful city at the moment.

At an Extraordinary IOC session on 30 January, presentations to members by the candidates for IOC President will occur. Hopefully we’ll get to see those either live or recordings. This will be ahead of the Election of the next IOC President at the IOC Session in Greece 18-25 March.

Exactly. The IOC are not naive and will steer the Games well clear of Egypt. My money’s on Seoul getting another Games in 2036.

Yes that’s true.

Because the World DanceSport Federation is the sport’s world governing body and runs the Olympic Breaking competitions at the Olympic Games.

Egypt Has Built a New Olympic Park This is gob-smacking set of stadiums and venues in Egypt’s new Olympic Park is the very opposite of New Norm. It’s horrifying multi-billion $$$$ cost scale reminds me of Sochi 2014’s build-it-at-any-cost from scratch.

Australian Federal Opposition Leader Dutton might be just scrapping for more votes but he is reportedly “leaving the door open” re extra venue funds for Brisbane 2032’s venues if LNP wins government in both Queensland state and national elections.

Gabba Rebuild On Again ? Queensland LNP Leader Crisafulli has comfirmed that a Gabba Rebuild would be considered the his 100 day review if he wins Government at this month’s state election. Gabba Rebuild on the table under LNP’s 100 day review - Brisbane Times

Following Paris 2024 and the ‘star power’ heading toward LA 2028, some good points made in The Project’s report further below on the pressure Brisbane 2032 is under. Even swimming at Suncorp Stadium is mentioned again, like Paris 2024 did with their swimming venue at their indoor rugby stadium. Reports also coming out today re Federal Opposition Leader Dutton and more cash for Brisbane Olympic projects if he wins government.

Correction: These dual HOV/Carpool Lanes during the Games will be temporily re-purposed it seems, well at least one of the lanes, to be Games Lanes in those required freeway sections to/from and relevant to those Orange County Olympic/Paralympic Venues.

On my last few trips to LA and Costa Mesa, I’ve noticed the Freeway 405 Express Lanes Project has been completed and a faster journey down to Orange County is the result. These HOV (High Occupancy Vehicles) + carpool +3 with Fastrak transponder dual express lanes replaced the previous single carpool lanes and its made a huge difference on the 405 Freeway purported to be the busiest freeway in all of USA. These HOV Lanes during the Games will be temporily re-purposed it seems to be Games Lanes in those required freeway sections. Link: 405 Freeway Express Lanes Project Now Open - Spectrum News

@Bear excellent detail on the LA Olympic Transport Network including the draft map. I completely missed in your earlier posts you posted that there was a Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system coming to LA and will form part of the network. This is very interesting because for 2032, Brisbane recently announced they are expanding their new BRT to be near to more venues. I had also been wondering at LA 2028 if or how they might put Games Lanes on LA’s freeways and this has answered that: they’ll be included on shoulders, HOV express lanes, HOT and/or GP. (btw, what’s HOT and GP? Are they different categories of specialised lanes on LA freeways? Games Lanes to be highlighted to freeway/road users with striping, pavement painting and new signage Emergency vehicles will have access, but general traffic will be prohibited from using these dedicated travel lanes.

Brisbane 2032 transport authorities will study closely the plans of LA 2028 as it develops the Olympic Transport Network (OTN) over several modes of travel across different venues and other locations. In 2032, in addition to a Bus Operations Centre, organisers will need to plan for multiple: Park and Ride sites for spectator to park their cars in the vicinity of either venues or transport hubs serviced by shuttle buses Venue Bus Malls to drop off/pickup spectators Bus/Coach Depots for maintenance, washing and refuelling the OTN fleet, anc Bus Staging Areas adjacent to venues for short term parking. Brisbane 2032 organisers will also need to plan for spectator and workforce shuttles to/from venues adjacent to designated light rail, heavy rail, train stations and bus stations to daily move everyone in and out. In 2032, Spectator Park and Ride Sites in the vicinity of venues can be expected to be sourced/commandeered from a variety of available open spaces. LA 2028 have released their LA 2028 Metro Games Mobility Concept Plan which the Brisbane 2032 team I’m sure will pore over in detail as they develop their own plan.

Just found it in @Bear’s amazing raft of LA 2028 transport plan documents. So at LA2028 in their Games Enhanced Transit System (GETS), there will be: 25 Park and Ride sites for spectator cars served by GETS shuttle buses to/from venues 13 Venue Bus Malls to drop off/pickup spectators 15 GETS Bus Depots for maintenance, washing and refuelling the GETS bus fleet 13 Bus Staging Areas adjacent to venues for short term parking 1 Bus Operations Centre (no doubt Brisbane 2032 transport planners will be examining in great detail these LA 2028 Olympic Transport Network Plans) LA2028 Games Enhanced Transit System Source: LA2028 Games Enhanced Transit System (GETS)

Noting too that in your excellent transport plans and timelines @Bear that “Supplemental Bus System” for spectators and workforce (starting on the day of the Opening Ceremony as you posted above) is the name given by LA organisers to cover this type of additional transport spectator/workforce shuttle services described in my post above. I guess each Olympic Games may give a slightly differently name to these additional games time shuttle operations to daily move everyone in and out of venues to nearby public transport connections and park and ride shuttle locations.

Very impressive research @Bear regarding the detail around LA2028 transport planning and Olympic Transport Network. Yes too that as with Olympic Games for decades now that there will be no cars at actual venues from at least Sydney 2000 onwards. But as with many Olympic Games, am expecting that, in addition to public transport connections, a fleet of spectator shuttle buses and coaches will operate from designated temporary Olympic Park and Ride locations which would then take spectators to the actual venues. Olympic Park and Rides are generally strategically located within roughly 3-5 miles or so from the Venue and common places for these are open spaces such as industrial lots, shopping centre carparks, high school open spaces, other open spaces. Spectator Shuttle Buses would also be required from designated public transport light rail and heavy rail stations to take spectators that short distance from that rail or bus station to the nearby venue. For example, to get to the Marine Stadium Rowing Course at Long Beach, spectator shuttle buses most likely will be required from a nearby designated Long Beach Light Rail Station to take spectators that distance to one of the ticketed entry points at Marine Stadium.