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  1. The problem is the people don't want the Olympics. That was evident in the referendum that doomed Munich's 2022 candidacy. Any Munich bid would need Garmisch anyways and from my understanding that's where most of the opposition came from.
  2. Why would Vancouver need a speed skating oval? If they did, they would've kept the one at Richmond. It would be a waste of money to build another so soon after repurposing the 2010 venue. A better more financially feasible option is using the oval in Calgary. If Paris can have surfing halfway around the world in Tahiti, then I am sure the IOC would have no problem with a Vancouver bid using the Calgary oval (remember Calgary's failed bid relied on the ski jumps in Whistler). In terms of a curling venue, no need to build anything new either. Langley Events Centre or another suitable indoor venue would suffice. Regardless of what becomes of Vancouver's Olympics ambition, I do believe that it's only a matter of time before Vancouver and Whistler replace WinSport at Calgary as Canada's primary winter sports training centre with the exception of speed skating. A future bid would give Vancouver the opportunity to touch up the 2010 venues for that purpose. With Hamilton also pushing for a CWGs, would this take precedence over a second WOGs bid in the same year? I cannot see Canada trying for both.
  3. Why go for Northern England bid though when London has almost everything ready to go? Even with the IOC accepting regional bids, if a compact sustainable low-cost option is available, and London fits that description, why opt for a regional bid? The IOC maybe open to the idea of a regional bid but if a compact one presents itself I can't see it being turned down.
  4. I see a big difference though between the bidding climate today and that of 40 years ago. In addition to social media, the Great Recession led to a wave of economic populism throughout the western world with a renewed conscious about how tax money would be spent. and based on the numerous referendums that have said no to Olympic bids, that's the driving force the IOC hasn't quite figured out. Could a successful Olympics in Paris and Los Angeles help? Definitely but part of that criteria for success will be if those Games than stay on budget and deliver some sort of surplus or break even. The WOGs are practically on life support after the last two races, and Milan-Cortina has the potential to get very expensive quickly with all the new venues they need (I still think when those costs start coming out you will see CONI beg Turin to rejoin as was the original plan). Salt Lake City and to an extent Sapporo offer the IOC essentially what Paris and Los Angeles offer, a reasonable lower-cost bid. The question is whether or not that will be enough to skeptical tax paying citizens that the Olympics can be a worthwhile investment.
  5. Back when it looked like the Calgary bid would via a referendum I mentioned the idea of Canada giving another go at the WOGs with Vancouver. It makes sense. They have everything in place from 2010 with the exception of an Olympic Village and the need for a speed skating oval. since the Richmond Oval cannot be repurposed if memory serves me correctly. Vancouver could easily use the one in Calgary. The question is of course whether or not Vancouver would want to host again as has been mentioned.
  6. Seems like a noble effort but is there any indication the Dutch government would even consider the idea? Given the size and scope of the SOGs, I highly doubt one city alone (Amsterdam or Rotterdam) could pull this off. It would have to be a country-wide bid.
  7. The topic has been discussed in another thread. The stadium issue is the sticking point but if FC Koln wants a new privately owned stadium then I suppose that's a possible starting point. An even bigger hurdle would be the likelihood of a referendum across multiple locations. I'd like to see the DOSB give this a go as the concept would completely revolutionize SOGs bidding.
  8. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1090145/sofi-stadium-los-angeles-2028 I read just recently that SoFi Stadium is nearing completion but what jumped out in this article is the headline listing the stadium for the opening and closing ceremonies. Did LA decide that both ceremonies will be at the new stadium rather than holding the closing ceremonies at the Coliseum?
  9. I suspect the IOC politely told India no for 2032 and recommended the consolation prize of the YOGs. I expect you'll see the same scenario with Jakarta in the coming months as well (wouldn't surprise to see Indonesia launch a YOGs bid). The IOC is not in the business of going to the developing world anytime soon.
  10. 2034 is more likely with Salt Lake in for 2030. A Sapporo Olympics in 2030 would give Asia 3 of the past four WOGs and there's no guarantee Salt Lake would go again in 2034.
  11. As to why Morocco never put a hat in the ring, Morocco may have burned a bridge or two with the 2015 African Cup of Nations. Morocco was set to host then wanted the tournament postponed due to the Ebola outbreak in West Africa. Morocco compounded the situation by saying they would deny entry to teams from those affected countries. The tournament was then given to Equatorial Guinea. I can't say much for Gaborone other than their sports infrastructure would require some massive upgrades even for a YOGs
  12. Brazzaville hosted a successful 2015 African Games with new facilities that easily could host a YOGs. That's more than Dakar has. They didn't have any health and safety problems then either. South Africa bailed on the CWGs. The IOC isn't going there anytime soon with any games. Nairobi has no plans for a YOG bid. Their focus is on the IAAF World Championships. The YOGs don't need a back-to-back in Asia. They already are a consolation prize anyway. They aren't going to Tokyo as Japan is going to focus on a Sapporo WOGs bid and Nagoya's Asian Games bid.
  13. The feasibility study may not be the same as the candidature file but that doesn't change the fact Brisbane's initial evaluation shows a key number of expensive venues that have no defined legacy. If you're going to build an Olympic Stadium, temporary seating or not, there needs to at least be a tenant identified who would take over the stadium post-Olympics well beforehand. As of right now, Brisbane has none. And how many of the venues were considered as community centres as a legacy? Not viable. If Brisbane is indeed awarded the 2032 SOGs, I predict once the costs start piling up (I don't see how Brisbane does this for under at least $15 billion) then you will see the likes of Sydney included as I mentioned before. As for Brisbane being a front runner, that's more or less because of other quality bids (forget Indonesia, India, or the pie in the sky joint Korea bid). If a bid from either the Rhine-Rhur region of Germany or Madrid is serious then the race gets a lot more interesting. As for the IOC insisting on sustainable legacy, they may do so under New Norm, but the sports federations have not. Case in point, Tokyo wanted to use existing venues for rowing and volleyball yet their respective sports federations twisted the arms of the organizers and the IOC to get new venues with questionable legacies. If it can happen with Tokyo, it can happen with Brisbane.
  14. Does Spain actually have the cash to pull this off though, even as practical as it sounds? I'd almost be tempted to say the proposed Rhine-Rhur bid, if it ever gains traction and public approval, might be a bigger threat to Brisbane.
  15. So another "NoOlympics" group though this one is different given its the political opposition rather than a grassroots movement which ended the likes of Boston, Calgary, and Hamburg. Given that elections aren't set to be held until October, what is the realistic chance the ONP wins a majority then announces they end the bid? I don't know too much about Australian politics, but the phrase "right-leaning" caught my attention given the success of some of these groups in elections elsewhere.
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