Soaring Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 With the list of "new horizons" for the Summer Olympic Games becoming smaller and smaller, we will soon be entering an age where it is going to be far more common and acceptable to have repeat host countries for the Summer Games. It will be sort of like how the Winter "repeaters" are today. This will especially be true once Turkey and South Africa are awarded the Games. That would basically just leave countries like India, Indonesia, Argentina, Singapore and Malaysia as possible candidates for hosting in the 2040's or even well beyond that point. Once these countries are satisfied, the pool of potential hosts will mostly be comprised of countries who have previously hosted, but with new cities "sprinkled" into the mix. In what order do you think the repeaters will host again? Here are my projections in hosting order based by continent: Europe: France (Paris) -> Spain (Madrid) -> Italy (Rome) -> Germany (Berlin) -> Russia (Moscow or St. Petersburg) -> UK (London) -> Greece (Athens)??? North America: USA (LA, NYC, SF, Chicago) -> Canada (Toronto) -> Mexico (Mexico City or Monterrey) Asia/Oceania: Japan (Tokyo) -> China (Shanghai) -> Australia (Melbourne or Brisbane) -> South Korea (Seoul) South America: Brazil (São Paulo or Rio de Janeiro) More detailed breakdown..... EUROPE France – Host: Paris 1900, Paris 1924 My Projection: Paris 2024 or 2028 Spain – Host: Barcelona 1992 My Projection: Madrid (2030’s), Barcelona (2080’s) Italy – Host: Rome 1960 My Projection: Rome (2030’s-40’s) Germany – Host: Berlin 1916, Berlin 1936, Munich 1972 Projection: Berlin (2040’s-2050’s) Russia – Host: Moscow 1980 My Projection: Moscow or St. Petersburg (2050’s-60’s) United Kingdom – Host: London 1904, London 1948, London 2012 My Projection: London (2060’s-70’s) Greece – Host: Athens 1896, Athens 2004 My Projection: Not in the foreseeable future Sweden – Host: Stockholm 1912 My Projection: Not in the foreseeable future Belgium – Host: Antwerp 1920 My Projection: Not in the foreseeable future Netherlands – Host: Amsterdam 1928 My Projection: Not in the foreseeable future Finland – Host: Helsinki 1952 My Projection: Not in the foreseeable future ______________________________________________________________ NORTH AMERICA United States – Host: St. Louis 1904, Los Angeles 1932, Los Angeles 1984, Atlanta 1996 My Projection: Los Angeles, New York, Chicago or San Francisco (2030’s) Canada – Host: Montreal 1976 My Projection: Toronto (2040’s-50’s) Mexico – Host: Mexico City 1968 My Projection: Mexico City, Monterey (2070’s-80’s) ______________________________________________________________ ASIA / OCEANIA Japan – Host: Tokyo 1960 My Projection: Tokyo (2020’s) China – Host: Beijing 2008 My Projection: Shanghai (2040’s-50’s) Australia – Host: Melbourne 1952, Sydney 2000 My Projection: Melbourne or Brisbane (2050’s) South Korea – Host: Seoul 1988 My Projection: Seoul (2060’s-70’s) ______________________________________________________________ SOUTH AMERICA Brazil – Host: Rio de Janeiro 2016 My Projection: São Paulo or Rio de Janeiro (2070’s-80’s) ______________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 What are you talking about with winter games repeat host cities? The last time that happened was 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 What are you talking about with winter games repeat host cities? The last time that happened was 1980. I am referring to repeat host "countries" not cities. The U.S., Canada, France, Japan, Italy, Austria have all hosted the Winter Games multiple times. The only "new horizon" winter country that remains is China. My point is that we will soon have an even more limited number of "new horizon" summer games countries to choose from, much like how it is for the Winter Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I can't see places like Indonesia, Malaysia & especially much smaller Singapore (as a country) hosting in the next 50 years. And I'd say Guadalajara before Monterey. Mexico's second largest city & much more picturesque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I am referring to repeat host "countries" not cities. The U.S., Canada, France, Japan, Italy, Austria have all hosted the Winter Games multiple times. The only "new horizon" winter country that remains is China. My point is that we will soon have an even more limited number of "new horizon" summer games countries to choose from, much like how it is for the Winter Games. I'd argue Kazakhstan is also a new horizon that will likely host in the next couple decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 If I need to say a future potential "new horizonts" -Again, we still don't know if some chances will happen in next 20 years-, I could name: Summer Games: Lock South Africa - Between 2024 and 2028 More Likely Turkey - Maybe not in this 2020, but the potential is there Possible Chile - Maybe the Pan American Games will be the presentation card and right now, more likely than Argentina. Thailand - The only Asian country -Outside of the trifeca China-Japan-Korea- which can pull off an Olympic Games Winter Games: Lock China - It is written Likely Kazakhstan - The only potential candidate for a Winter Games Dark Horse A south Hemisphere candidate So If need to predict -Blind prediction and related to Soaring list- the potential cities by repeating cities could be; EUROPE: France --> Spain --> Italy --> Russia --> Germany --> UK France - Paris Germany - Berlin, Hamburg Spain - Madrid Italy - Rome Russia - Moscow or St. Petersbourg United Kingdom - London NORTH AMERICA: United States --> Canada --> Mexico United States - NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles Canada - Toronto Mexico - Guadalajara (After the results of the Pan American Games, Guadalajara is becoming Mexico's bid to a second olympics) ASIA/OCEANIA: Japan (If selected for 2020) --> China --> Korea --> Australia China - Shanghai Korea - Seoul, Busan (The second city of the country with cultural background and political relevance) Japan - Tokyo Australia - Melbourne, Brisbane SOUTH AMERICA: Brazil - Sao Paulo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 While I agree that Bangkok has future potential- I wouldn't say its the only place outside China/Japan/Korea... I think Kuala Lumpur has fantastic potential... India does too, however the disorganised culture there aside, India is one of few places in the world I get the sense that it genuinely doesn't care for hosting the Olympics. Also- I'd agree with estimates that Australia may wait another 40 years. It wouldn't surprise me. It also stop short of ruling out Sydney. I think by then Sydney would have a credible claim to a second Olympics. Although I could see Melbourne being one of few 20th century hosts that could pull off a centennial games in 2056, by then it could very well be Australia's largest city again, by the way it's currently projected to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Coast Lions Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Asia Forecast Japan My Forecast 2020 Tokyo South Korea next next host after Thailand host the 1st games Future Asian Olympics Summer Games I forecast Japan 2020 - Thailand 2030s or 2040 - South Korea 2040s - India 2060s - China. Oceania Australia Perth or Brisbane 2030s or 2040 - Australia Brisbane or Perth. North America Canada Toronto 2024 - USA LA, NYC or Miami 2032 - Dominican Republic 2040s 2050s - Canada - USA - Mexico. South America Brazil Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro Europe France Paris 2028 - Italy - Germany - Russia - Greece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Dominican Republic a country whose GDP is roughly what Russia spent on Sochi. I dont think its possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Until the IOC is willing to move off the August timeframe for SOG's, I have a hard time picturing a games in either SE Asia or the North American hurricane zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Dominican Republic a country whose GDP is roughly what Russia spent on Sochi. I dont think its possible. Agree, also if for legtimate right Cuba must deserves a Summer Olympic Games before, but even with that is a longshot at best. In my list I didn't include India and Argentina for these reasons: India lacks of a proper Olympic history -Check the medals talley-, it doesn't seems too interested to make the Olympics, and the terrible organization in Delhi 2010 didn't make a lot of favors. Also the technical aspects is weak -Remember the Northern India blackout in 2012-. Argentina has diplomatic problems with many countries, they lack of experience and the experience for the Copa America 2011 was telling. Also, if Colombia is above than Argentina in the report survey by the YOG it means a lot of the proper capacity. Also, another points for Guadalajara - Monterrey is dry and hot (Especially between June and September) -In the middle of a desert- and Mexico City has the altitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebbyb Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 uk is looking at 2028 or 2032 games as mentioned by boris johnson and ioc president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ofan Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 uk is looking at 2028 or 2032 games as mentioned by boris johnson and ioc president Yup, I think you made that pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stark Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 EUROPE Germany: Berlin (30's) France: Paris (2024 or someday) Italy: Rome (40's) Spain: Madrid (30's-50's) Russia: St. Petersburg (2050's) Greece: Athens 2096 LOL NORTH AMERICA USA: who cares the city, they will host soon Canada: Toronto (2028) SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICA Probablly sooner Brazil than Mexico, but dont see one of them till the 50's ASIA Japan: Tokyo (2020) China: who cares the city they can even create one (40's) OCEANIA Australia: Melbourne or Brisbane (40's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR2028 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 My prediction: EUROPE Turkey: Istanbul 2020 France: Paris 2032 Germany: Berlin 2036 Spain: Madrid 2040 England: Manchester 2048 Russia: 2052 Greece: Athens 2096 NORTH AMERICA United States: Baton Rouge 2028 Canada: Toronto: 2044 Mexico: Mexico City? United States: Chicago 2056 United States: Boston 2068 United States: Dallas 2080 Canada: Winnipeg 2060 AFRICA Casablanca: 2024 Cape Town: 2064 ASIA China: 2068, 2084 Japan:Tokyo 2088 Australia: 2072 SOUTH AMERICA Brazil: Rio 2076 Argentina: Buenos Aries 2092 2100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Five outta six Games right in Europe, & three Summer Games in the U.S. within 24 years?! And Baton Rouge 2028?! A metro area that's smaller than even that of Tulsa's! Does your name happen to be Neil Mavis the ll! What planet have you come from! And swap your African choices, especially if Istanbul wins 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR2028 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I think that over all the US will receive three to four games and Europe around the same if not a bit more. Also Baton Rouge is far more capable of handling a games then Tulsa; an hour away from New Orleans and with their new mag-lev system makes Baton Rouge a possible candidate city. It's growing and I could see an Olympics there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 France: Paris 2032 Germany: Berlin 2036 Spain: Madrid 2040 Jeez, the IOC gets enough accusations of being Eurocentric already. There'd be revolution in the rank if they tried to palm off three Euro SOG hosts in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR2028 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Jeez, the IOC gets enough accusations of being Eurocentric already. There'd be revolution in the rank if they tried to palm off three Euro SOG hosts in a row. I really did not see that. Maybe Madrid 2048? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think that over all the US will receive three to four games and Europe around the same if not a bit more. Also Baton Rouge is far more capable of handling a games then Tulsa; an hour away from New Orleans and with their new mag-lev system makes Baton Rouge a possible candidate city. It's growing and I could see an Olympics there. just stop it now with that BR crap, you will only hear over and over how foolish you are and what a joke that city would be to even think about bidding, people love to find examples of our blind sense of Olympic entitlement DO NOT FEED THAT BEAST, we don't need to hear about little hot humid horrendous hick heavy baton rouge! FRIED DYED or LAID TO THE SIDE…….br will never host the Olympic games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Also Baton Rouge is far more capable of handling a games then Tulsa; an hour away from New Orleans and with their new mag-lev system makes Baton Rouge a possible candidate city. It's growing and I could see an Olympics there. Yeah, okay. Perhaps in 2128 then. Right after Tulsa 2124, that is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 As a fan of True Blood, I demand Shreveport gets the Games before BR (well, I'd prefer Bon Temps, but that might be a little too small)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR2028 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 As a fan of True Blood, I demand Shreveport gets the Games before BR (well, I'd prefer Bon Temps, but that might be a little too small)! Haha! If were going down this road then I say Lake Charles. By 2015 Baton Rouge will have almost six fortune 500 company's and the city limits are expanding. Top that with the new oil fracking (which is centered in BR) and I think you have a good candidate. Will probably loose, but it's good publicity for any city. just stop it now with that BR crap, you will only hear over and over how foolish you are and what a joke that city would be to even think about bidding, people love to find examples of our blind sense of Olympic entitlement DO NOT FEED THAT BEAST, we don't need to hear about little hot humid horrendous hick heavy baton rouge! FRIED DYED or LAID TO THE SIDE…….br will never host the Olympic games Whether I'm ridiculed or not after living in the city for six years I think it can come up with a pleasing plan. The city is also not 'hick heavy' that's the towns and areas around New Orleans. Baton Rouge instead is starting to become the urban and financial hub of the state; give her twenty years the south's hub rivaling the terribly organized city of Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 ok sorry I was a little rude, i don't know nearly as much about this stuff as some of the guys around here, but baton rouge is just too small for starters. But if you have some great ideas and want to talk about them i don’t want to discourage you from having fun. This site should be a little bit about dreaming after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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