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So Toronto realizes it has like 12 days to get a bid ready right?

Don't bring me into this pissing match. Also, JO2024, Madrid was in a completely different position. For starters, their first bid was way back in the '60s and for 1972 during the fascist government so that was a nogo from the start. In their second attempt, they ran for a games that would be held only ten years after Barcelona AND they were up against some of the biggest, wealthiest, and most powerful cities and nations in the world. France, the UK, The USA, and Russia all submitted bids that featured their alpha cities. Of course Madrid is going to loose. In 2009, their third attempt they came in at second place primarily because of sympathy following Samaranches death. Again they did loose, but came in at second ahead of a 'greedy' US that from the races start probably had the best chance of winning based on the fact that Europe and Asia had both hosted in 2008, 2004, and 2012. Chicago's 2016 bid was a very wise and calculated bid by the USOC and not a 'greedy' try against those poor olympicless Europeans. In 2013, Madrid made a stupid decision to bid based on their 'strong' performance in 2005 and 2009. Madrid lost because of all the things Roger87 said. Even if Spain bid for 2024 they would loose. Paris is in a much better position for getting the games then they have ever been, and has a much better chance than Paris.

Alpha, you do realize that France has bid for the 1992 games, the 2004 games, the 2008 games, and the 2012 games? That's four bids. Thrice Paris was the candidate and the most recent in 2005 saw Paris loose out to London by four votes.

Yes. We have venue plans for both and both cities perfectly fit Agenda 2020. Paris has the upper-hand because of everything else, including but not limited to: France not hosting in over 100 years; US in 20 France has bid almost four times and consistently ranked in second or third place. The US has bid just twice and came in last/second to last both times. The IOC has a horrible rep. in Europe. Paris winning would drastically improve it. The US will bid again, Paris may not IOC is Euro centric

Finally!

Even compared to the US Paris still has a better shot. We hosted only 20 years ago, France? 1924. In addition to this France and more specifically Paris has bid more than the US in the past thirty years. France has bid multiple times, five including this 2024 bid. We're basing our idea on Paris winning on a lot more than just pattern, but basic facts.

So with South Africa's most recent announcement I would say LA just won 2028.

And we're live! LA 2024 Baby!

^ Difference is that those countries have to factor security into their final costs...the US doesn't. That is the only thing the Feds will pay for. I think a more reasonable estimate for LA is somewhere in the $7 billion - $10 billion dollar realm.

Okay...so then just raise the estimates to 7 billion dollars.

Um...there are a lot of cities that could go and do a 'barebones' Olympics. It is the consumer, it is the people who watch the games that have turned it into an extravaganza. Western Civ. expects more from the games and we get more.

I'll pass...The US has a wealth of other Olympians to choose from that wouldn't trigger a massive public backlash.

#LA2024

At least in Barcelona's case their overall branding was fantastic. Same could arguably said for Atlanta. In Tokyo's case, I don't see this color lending well to overall branding and marketing unless they change up colors.

Look, Baron, I agree that the logo is crap and fails at trying to be new and modern, but you're taking your dislike to a whole new level.