Rio-2016 News

[Ikarus360]

^^ Yeah, but you know, this is all a conspiracy of the evil right wing, right?

God, I love these people.

[paul]

Analysis: Why the open water events will captivate Olympic audiences

Still, when these swimmers sprint from the beach into the unknown waters just offshore, people are going to want to tune tune in. Viewers also will be scanning through their channel guides to see if a sailor falls out of the boat onto a severed limb in Guanabara Bay.

Maybe everything is under control, and these events will go off without a hitch. However, there’s a chance that these major governing bodies are whistling while they sprint past the graveyard. That should make people curious. Curious to see if this country, this city, and these organizers were so desperate to host these Olympics that they willfully neglected the health of its participants.

[Cauê]

The horror show against Democracy begins Now in Copacabana Beach, Rio:

Protesters against Lula, Rousseff and the Workers Party - March 13, 2016

'Yacht Protest' against the Workers Party

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We want 'Military Intervention', say protesters

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From Twitter

Selfie with a militar force representation

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"Against the Supreme Court"

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This is the Brazilian middle class, Baby.
Welcome.

I am Brazilian and I'm afraid

[yoshi]

So they really do actually want a military coup & return to dictatorship? Do you think there's a chance of that?

[Ikarus360]

As much as I hate leftists/populism in Latin America, returning to military rule cannot be an option today in the 21th century, the solution must be democratic. I don't want a Pinochet 2.0, thank you.

[Cauê]

The Olympic City Now - Images of Copacabana Beach (Rio) and the social upheaval of the Brazil's far-right, Today

Article: 'Um retrato das manifestações de hoje em Copacabana' (A portrait of Copacabana in Today's Events)

http://www.revistaforum.com.br/blogdorovai/2016/03/13/um-retrato-das-manifestacoes-de-hoje-em-copacabana/

This is already a joke in social networks, like Facebook and Twitter:

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The Brazilian white middle class is hysterical with the popular government of Lula and Dilma.
The Workers Party promotes social justice for black people and the gay community.

Great brazilian newspapers like 'O Globo', 'Folha de S. Paulo' and 'Estadão', historically against the left political, say for the people: 'the Workers Party is more corrupt'.

Brazil is in a social convulsing.

[yoshi]

Do you think there's a chance of a coup? If nothing else, that would be pretty chaotic for the Olympics if that happened.

[paul]

2016 Rio Olympics: Protests will be “confronted and repressed” – Brazil’s defence minister

Brazil’s defence minister this week said any violent protests over the deepening political and economic crisis in the country will be met by force as Rio prepares to welcome the masses for the first Olympic Games to be held in South America this summer.

Edited March 13, 2016 by paul

[Cauê]

Do you think there's a chance of a coup? If nothing else, that would be pretty chaotic for the Olympics if that happened.

Yes, unfortunately. The main media groups in Brazil (like Globo) are against the government.

This is a delicate moment in Brazil, with a conservative revolt. The situation in Brazil is crazy.

Another example of the Horror Day, today:

A group of people in Copacabana, Rio, says 'We want the Monarchy' (a hereditary regime)

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https://www.facebook.com/Brasil.Monarquia/photos/a.496362127075804.120713.496314417080575/1150512491660761/?type=3&theater

[paul]

Party or protest?

Edited March 14, 2016 by paul

[paul]

i think Rio is flooding now, they can't seem to catch a break!

Edited March 14, 2016 by paul

[Victor Mata]

The Congress and the big media conglomerates are very focused on putting down the Government but they're running out of democratic and constitutional ways of achieving that. So that's why there are currently very big headlines about corruption and allegated cases of wrongdoing involving people around Dilma Rousseff, but nothing against her has been proved. That being said, their're stirring the people to flock the streets (and shopping malls too, go figure) and protest against Dilma, Lula and the Worker's Party specifically for whatever reasons, despite the fact that the opposition parties have by far a lot more shady politicians involved in corruption cases.

The use of hate speech, people doing nazi salutes, claiming for the return of the military dictatorship and even proposing the assassination of the president is a common thing in protests like the ones in 2015 and the ones today. Violent clashes are rare for the time being, but so they were in 1964 until the military took the power.

Chances of a coup are slim and the democratic institutions keep functioning unless the situation quickly escalates for the worse, i.e: open violence in the streets, the military starts to intervene heavily or when this political crisis produce the first dead body...

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[Nacre]

Another example of the Horror Day, today:

A group of people in Copacabana, Rio, says 'We want the Monarchy' (a hereditary regime)

That's a sad joke given Brazil's history. They once had a truly great emperor and the right wing ran him out of the country for ending slavery in Brazil.

Strangely the European monarchs in the Americas have all been really good guys. Maximilian would have been a great for Mexico too, if he and Benito Juarez had been able to cut a deal together without the French. It's just too bad that Prince Harry would be the inevitable candidate for an independent Canadian monarchy!

Edited March 14, 2016 by Nacre

[Cauê]

More about the social upheaval in Brazil

Today, one of the journals that supported the military coup of 64 in Brazil, 'Folha de S. Paulo', made a headline in big words:

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/

http://www.brasil247.com/pt/247/brasil/220931/Datafolha-perfil-dos-manifestantes-ainda-%C3%A9-alta-renda.htm

The sad reality of the middle-class protests against the Workers Party in Brazil:

The main idol of the protests, a teenager called Kim Kataguiri, published an article calling the people as 'Power Rangers ' against evil.
The journal? Folha de S. Paulo. One of the most important in Brazil and one of the journals that supported the military coup of 64.

This is unbelievable. But this is true:
http://www.revistaforum.com.br/2016/03/13/kataguiri-power-rangers-folha-de-sp/
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/opiniao/2016/03/1749131-a-nossa-geracao-sobreviveu.shtml

And the people? Look:

'Heróis contra a corrupção' ( Heroes against corruption )

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This is the reality.

[bairrosfelipe]

A photo that defines Brazil: a family of high class (Claudio Pracownik and your wife, Carolina Maia Pracownik) go to the protest on Sunday with his poor maid, nanny who cares for their children. It is interesting to note the difference in skin color of the people in this photo. Can you see how the poor maid is interessed in protests?

[paul]

As The Olympics Loom, Brazil Lurches From One Crisis To The Next-NPR

Brazil pulled off the 2014 World Cup, and it will pull off the Olympics, too. But many here are wondering what it's all for. In many ways, Brazil may serve as a cautionary tale to countries and cities who may want to take on mega-sporting events — at great cost and for uncertain benefit.

[LatinXTC]

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This is the reality.

I stopped caring for your cause as soon as you posted that pic of the power rangers. My god they are handsome! I want them all!

[Ikarus360]

All this shilling for Dilma and Lula on this thread. Also the typical "muh privileged evil white race" arguments.

Seriously, guys. I thought you were better than this.

[FAAN]

I wonder how people are still trying to minimize and put labels on those legitimate protests with stupid "observations".

Those were the largest political protest in Brazil's history.

3 to 6 million people of all classes and ethnicities in the streets of all regions of the country supporting the Impeachment of Dilma Rousseff, who has thrown the country into the worst recession since the 30s and destroyed the biggest brazilian company, and against corruption (no matter what political party is related), supporting a investigative operation called Lava Jato, that is investigating the former president Lula and many other politicians (Dilma was also mentioned).

These are the estimatives made by the organizers:

São Paulo: 2,500,000

Rio de Janeiro: 1,000,000

Vitória: 250,000

Brasília: 200,000

Curitiba: 200,000

Porto Alegre: 140,000

Recife: 120,000

Belo Horizonte: 100,000

Campinas: 100,000

Ribeirão Preto: 100,000

Londrina: 90,000

Florianópolis: 80,000

Manaus: 80,000

Belém: 50,000

Salvador: 50,000

São José dos Campos: 50,000

Novo Hamburgo: 40,000

A photo that defines Brazil: a family of high class (Claudio Pracownik and your wife, Carolina Maia Pracownik) go to the protest on Sunday with his poor maid, nanny who cares for their children. It is interesting to note the difference in skin color of the people in this photo. Can you see how the poor maid is interessed in protests?

Why government supporters keep using this as an argument? She's a worker that is receiving money to work. I wonder why photos like these don't have the same repercussion:

[FAAN]

Do you think there's a chance of a coup? If nothing else, that would be pretty chaotic for the Olympics if that happened.

Those protests are pacific and nobody wants a coup (with very few exceptions) or are making any opposition to the Olympics.

What people are demanding the Impeachment (assured in the constitution and already made in 90s, supported by the party of the current government) and supporting the operations against corruption. The only people who talked about convoking people to fight in the streets were the members of the Workers' Party (government).

[Victor Mata]

Nobody wanted a coup back in 64 and yet you guys are repeating every step of it...

Plus, the organizers don't have the courage or don't want to repel the Military lovers, neither the Integralists, or the homophobic politicians from their carnaval. And guess what, these guys are just using the circus to throw themselves into the political stage again. And TV host Gloria Maria is a notable case because she's an exception. The only thing exceptions do is evidencing the general rule. Statistics show the outline of the protests - specially in São Paulo - is still overwhelmingly upper-middle class and white people and we DO know how Latin American scum love pretending to be european, noble and pure race until their conservative choices show them the awful reality. This is not against corruption. Look at the politicans and congressmen behind it. It's a crusade against one party (and I'm not even a voter of this party).

This is just like Mani Pulite in Italy back in the 90's. It will produce at least one Berlusconi type here and at worst a total failure of our democratic institutions.

As far as the Olympics are concerned, we can expect protests in a minor but more concentrated scale, at least for now. Surprisingly, Rio 2016 doesn't have so far the same kind of opposition as the 2014 World Cup had back then.

[yoshi]

So is there a real corruption problem or is it faked by the opposition parties? And Brazil is democratic, so there will come a time when there's the chance to vote the current government out if they're truly this unpopular.

[Victor Mata]

There IS a big BIG corruption problem across the majority of the parties - including the Worker's Party - and some of the biggest construction and communication companies of Brazil. But the media (controlled by the opposition) is very good at pinning the guilt on only one side of the thing and they are not willing to wait until the next elections, even if it means shutting down the Gov and blocking economic reforms to keep people pissed and stirring antidemocratic measures. That's why there are more and more people asking for a return of the dictatorship, death penalty and hugging policemen in the streets. Yep. People are this crazy.

[zekekelso]

As an outsider, I could never begin to understand which side might be right or wrong. But it's always wonderful to see a country where people are free to protest their government, and millions do so peacefully.

And I know this is trivial, but I gotta ask. Anyone know what's up with the giant rubber ducky?

[Ikarus360]

So is there a real corruption problem or is it faked by the opposition parties? And Brazil is democratic, so there will come a time when there's the chance to vote the current government out if they're truly this unpopular.

It is real. But the government party are professionals at hiding the truth and making it look like a lie as much as they can, while at the same time bringing the old "western conspiracy" argument every single commie likes to repeat like a parrot. I've seen it for 16 years in my own country as well, so I already know how this works (not mentioning Lula and Dilma are disciples of the asshole who was our president before he kicked the bucket)