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    BidWeek: No Winter Games In Sweden. Ever?

    The Olympics are basically a massive get together for world sporting figures, and there are lots of meetings and events planned outside of competition. For example Dutch skiing officials want to go to the Holland Heineken House, see their speed skating athletes compete, meet with other people in their NOC, talk with the media, etc. Do they need to do this stuff? No. But it is a major part of the Olympics. Keep in mind that winter sports people affiliated with NOC's historically resisted switching to a separate mountain and city villages because it would make it a lot harder for skiers and ice skaters to have sex during the games like they normally did. And no, I am not joking.
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    BidWeek: No Winter Games In Sweden. Ever?

    The difference is that there are far fewer events (both sports and non-sporting) at the World Cup than at the Olympics. Officials at the World Cup generally do not fly between multiple host cities in the same day. Adler to Krasnaya Polyana is only 41 km. It was practical for officials to attend competitions at Krasnaya Polyana, a press event in Adler and national team parties and meetings in Sochi all in the same day. Stockholm to Are is >600km, and it would not be practical for officials to shuttle back and forth between them multiple times in the same day. So it is a real logistical problem. It probably isn't insoluble but it would take public support and financing from Sweden, and willingness to give up some of their events from the sporting federations and national teams. And unfortunately neither side was willing or able to do that.
  3. Croatia does not have a speed skating rink, a ski jumping hill, or a bobsledding track. They have skiing areas and two of the four arenas needed in Zagreb. That is not enough.
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    BidWeek: No Winter Games In Sweden. Ever?

    Exactly. The Swedish bid was very weak, but the IOC needed to keep it alive and the SOK gamely went along with it. I don't think you can blame a NOC itself for being willing to bid if the IOC publicly states multiple times that they are willing to accept a low cost games with mostly private funding. And in the end I can't even really blame the IOC's members for not wanting a spread out games requiring ferry rides, night trains or whatever to get around, and for not wanting to wait in limbo to see if the Swedish public and government would pull the rug from under their feet like Denver did. I think the only fair criticism is to say the IOC shouldn't have been disingenuous with the Swedes, and should have been clearer about what they wanted rather than paying constant lip service to "Agenda 2020."
  5. Sweden is wealthy because it is smart enough not to throw money away on vanity projects. The Swiss government isn't rushing to put in a bid either. (Although I wonder if the IOC will eventually threaten to leave the country if they don't.)
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    BidWeek: No Winter Games In Sweden. Ever?

    I think they were being pushed by the IOC to bid. The IOC did not want a "race" with one contestant.
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    Paris 2024 ceremonies

    Yeah. I loved Frantz (one of my top 10 favorite films) but it has nothing in common with an opening ceremony for the Olympics.
  8. San Siro may not even exist in 2026.
  9. The Olympics have way more VIP's, NOC officials, media personnel, corporate sponsors, fans, etc. It's not taking care of the athletes and the competition that is the problem, it is the various hangers-on that are problematic.
  10. The problem is that there simply isn't much housing to share at Are as the entire town has a population of 1,400. In comparison Whistler has a population of 12,000 yet most of the volunteers still had to be bused in from the Vancouver metro area. I suppose they could set up tents, but it would be rather cold . . .
  11. It would still be rather awful for people from Stockholm. At Vancouver 2010 volunteers had to meet very early in the morning at a transit site to get picked up by a bus and then go to Whistler. And they might make you wait there until midnight. And Whistler was only a two hour bus ride from Vancouver. For volunteers from Uppsala the equivalent would be driving an hour to a meeting point in Stockholm an hour before time to wait for a bus and go over your responsibilities, then take a 10 hour bus ride to Are, then work there for >8 hours, then take a 10 hour bus ride home, and then driving an hour back home. That's more than 30 hours in one "day" of volunteering. I am not saying that the Swedish bid was unworkable. But it would have been very challenging even with strong government support. With very little government support I think it was a longshot.
  12. Is that the government of Norway or the Norwegian Olympic Committee?
  13. Assuming that Norway actually wants to host the Olympics, of course.
  14. The deciding factors were the lack of financial contributions from governments, the inadequate venue arrangements and the huge logistical issues. For anyone who has every actually worked at an Olympics these are huge and obvious concerns. When I volunteered at Vancouver 2010 there were people getting home to Langley at 4:00 AM after volunteering at Whistler that day. I can't imagine how Swedish volunteers from places like Malmo who were assigned to work at Are would manage it.
  15. I wish that cities would stop seeing homelessness as something to be "solved." Many people who are homeless don't want to be put into social housing - especially if that housing comes with sobriety checks. So what do you do? Force them into a program against their will? Maybe cities should start designating some places for tent cities.
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