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Yeaaahhhhhh..............Embarrassing to say the least I wish that crap would put 2028 and 2034 in danger, sincerely.

Given the dearth of options.........they might get it. I do recall very vividly they had significant political turmoil literally right around when the Olympics in 22 would have kicked off. Maybe a 2038/42 option will give them the time to grow and develop internally to avoid those sorts of issues if they give a second try. Its still a long way's off, and hopefully they can kick the Russian yoke by then completely. Who knows.........if the result of the Russia-Ukraine war goes horribly wrong for Russia, Kazakhstan could end up being a big boy in Eurasia.......especially if Balkanization occurs in the Russian Federation.

The referendums make me extremely pessimistic for Switzerland, just going off previous history. Would love to have someone waiting in the wings just in case.

Purely off of nothing but "what if" conjecture, if Switzerland falls through, timing couldn't be better for someone out of left field to make a play.............short of Russia. 2038 is a long way away, so someone ambitious that might traditionally be a total outlier could posture I havent tooted the Almaty horn in awhile, but 13 years from now is a long time and maybe they could emerge as a backup. I know it absolutely makes little to no sense, but I would have loved Harbin to be an option for China as an Olympic host. Never a question if the Chinese can get it done. It's always been their winter capital anyway. Only way Russia is even close to being in the picture is if there is a borderline immediate collapse with a Khordokovsky, Kasparov type pro Western guy who 1000 percent pulls rope in a way that is completely apologetic and a total "we are sorry" tour from top to bottom. And then what? Sochi is most likely too warm by then.......it was too warm in 2014. Will they have the money to take on another project like Sheregesh? My prognosis is no matter what they're about to experience the Soviet Union dissolution economy on acid (or krokodil rather), so this is probably the biggest pipe dream at all.

Yup.......aware of that too. a few cycles ago, I labelled SLC as the emergency parachute. Even in hindsight, we are very lucky things with Italy and France shook out the way they did to deploy the parachute at the last possible moment (arguably right on schedule). Given the climate change situation, Sapporo/Hokkaido might be the new emergency parachute insurance policy

If Switzerland doesn't go the way we hope, is Sapporo/Hokkaido the obvious backup plan to try and persuade to get in? Cant say that I see Stockholm/Sweden making another go after recent engagements.

Total OT for anyone to address how they wish, if I am permitted. The Mrs. and I are doing a German Christmas Market tour of Germany this year. We are doing 3 days Cologne, 3 days Nuremburg, 3 days Dresden. Id like to think I researched well, but what should I be expecting from all three of these places (politics aside). What are some unique things amongst them that differentiate themselves from the others?

Im sure we are all shocked and disappointed by this development /s

It is hands down, bar none, Germany's best option. I'll be rooting for it.

Did we learn anything over the past day? Rhine-Ruhr in particular?

wow, thanks for that, drawn out like that, that looks pretty turnkey ready. If it gets trolling this bid would be hard to stop

I fully expect that's what they would do given current circumstances. Humidity would be Japan levels of rough, but time of day could help events as well (I would still personally hate to compete in that stifling humidity, but athletes are athletes for a reason)

That would be a very formidable bid right out of the gates.

Well..........yes...........This is the abundantly obvious conclusion. But what happens when the calendar flips to Novemmber/December or even October/November? Instantly number one. Your insistence that the calendar will be the bible in 11 years is baffling. This will be a snap of the finger issue if the IOC wants it to be. Any sport that doesnt go along with it, well, probably wont be long for the Olympics.

Polite disagree, I am in agreement with new guy. The person who put the work in on the previous chart also shows a lot of the stuff needed is in place. That would give them a leg up assuming the Saudi suitcases weigh a similar amount. IF this gets a October, November, even a December move, I think they're set. The leg up Qatar will have over Saudi is a resume that already has the world cup, and has maaarrrrginally less of a headache for female athletes than Saudi Arabia. Ive seen the way Saudi men treat their women........literally like cattle. You only need to go to a hotel in Istanbul to see it. That's not going to improve by then. Despite that, in the remote case Qatar backs out, its Saudi IMO. With current geopolitics, I think only a Ruhr Germany bid stops this (all vibe checks on Berlin, Hamburg, Munich seem dead in the water). Istanbul really.........reallly shot themselves in the face recently. But hey, if they wait on awarding they can perhaps "forget" those transgressions.