2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids

[AustralianFan]

4 hours ago, FYI said:

"Gut feeling"? Since when do you take those into account. 

 

43 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

When my gut tells me.

 

4 minutes ago, FYI said:

Well, 'good for you'. Of course, though, when it comes to others' 'gut feelings' around here that don't align with yours (cause remember, opinions [or in this case, gut feeling] are 'not evidence'), you then throw a new-norm, hissy-fit. Go figure. But I digress. 

If you want to speak on behalf of the gut feelings of others, go right ahead, knock yourself out.

I can only speak for my gut feeling, that’s all.

My gut is telling me the IOC Future Host Commission is right now most definitely 

not talking with Russia about a future Olympic Winter Games.

 

[baron-pierreIV]

Does it really matter what the 6th country is?  And maybe Dubi has not released it because it is probably the weakest POSSIBLE bid -- so NOT even worth mentioning.  But why are you soooooo OBSESSED with it?  

[Bear]

59 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Does it really matter what the 6th country is?  And maybe Dubi has not released it because it is probably the weakest POSSIBLE bid -- so NOT even worth mentioning.  But why are you soooooo OBSESSED with it?  

its always fun to guess 

[AustralianFan]

2 hours ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Does it really matter what the 6th country is?  And maybe Dubi has not released it because it is probably the weakest POSSIBLE bid -- so NOT even worth mentioning.  

The IOC do not release the names of any of the interested parties.

The IOC have not released the names of any of the interested parties.

The IOC have consistently said they must respect the confidentiality of the interested parties and leave to each of them if they wish to reveal themselves.

Guess what, 5 out of the 6 interested parties have outed themselves and revealed their idenities.

Only one of the 6 has not revealed themselves.

@baron-pierreIV  If you’re bored and not interested at all in speculation of who the closeted 6th one is, then perhaps Gamesbids.com forums is not the place for you.

[baron-pierreIV]

Whatever . . . in the long run, it doesn't matter who, what or how that 6th party is.  For all we know, it could be the break-away Republic of Chechnya!! 

[FYI]

7 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

@baron-pierreIV  If you’re bored and not interested at all in speculation of who the closeted 6th one is, then perhaps Gamesbids.com forums is not the place for you.

Good grief. What an utterly, sanctimonious comment. Which you, of all people here on GB's, shouldn't be making. 

[AustralianFan]

2 hours ago, FYI said:

Good grief. What an utterly, sanctimonious comment. Which you, of all people here on GB's, shouldn't be making. 

Build a bridge and get over it.  You’re not in Kansas anymore sweetheart.

[Quaker2001]

@AustralianFan, this you?

On 3/30/2023 at 3:43 PM, AustralianFan said:

You’re so desparate and needy for the names, you want the names, you’re demanding the names!  

Let me let you in on something. You’re acting like a child screaming for their own way.

You don’t like that the IOC are actually respecting the wishes of the actual interested parties from these mature winter markets actually want to keep these discussions confidential at this stage.

 

[AustralianFan]

2030 Bids

Speaking of a recent giggle in this thread and Princess Leia’s hologram

”Help me Sweden, you’re my only hope”  

here is the IOC President who has also popped up via hologram in Singapore

 

Credit: IOC President in Singapore - ITG - 23 June 2023

 

[AustralianFan]

21 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

I highly doubt the 6th is from Russia.  I have no evidence to back that up but just a gut feeling.

Using today’s clues from the IOC Press Conference (21 June 2023), I think the 6th is likely to be from the one of the other former hosts or well developed winter sports markets with lots of existing infrastructure, who have recently hosted an inernational sporting federation championshionps and/or who might be interesed in a future rotating host pool, such as one of the other biggies:

• Austria
• China
• France
• Germany
• Norway
• Poland
• South Korea

 

 A few months back there was that short-lived speculation of a joint 3-way bid for 2030 between France, Italy and Switzerland.

As far as advanced winter sports countries go and further speculation on the identity of who is the 6th interested party (until they reveal themselves),  Italy cannot be left off such a list of suspects interested in future games.  

The IOC EB continued the consistent line that it is up to each party to self-identify themselves if they choose.   They also refused to specify the edition of the Games except to reiterate the term “future games.”

To recap, the first 5 below have self-revealed they’re in talks with the IOC Future Host Commission;

1. USA - Salt Lake City  Salt Lake City enters Continuous Dialogue -17 Nov-20
2. SWEDEN  Sweden enters Continuous Dialogue - 16 June-23
3. SWITZERLAND  Switzerland confirms in Continuous Dialogue - 3 Apr-23
4. JAPAN - Sapporo  Sapporo enters Continuous Dialogue - 30 Jan-20
5. CANADA  Canada confirms in Continuous Dialogue - 21 June-23
6. *Sixth Interested Party

So just added Italy to the speculation of who the sixth one is, until they reveal themselves:

• *Austria
• *China
• *France
• *Germany
• *Italy
• *Norway
• *Poland
• *South Korea

That’s what I think anyway.  @Bear said, it’s fun to guess.

[AustralianFan]

>>>> BREAKING NEWS from Gamesbids’ Rob Livingstone <<<

WOW.  This 2030 race has got more twists and turns than a bobsleigh track.

Guess whose 2030 prospects are still alive?

SAPPORO!

Click here for the Sapporo thread for this news:

Sapporo 2030 Gamesbids thread - 22 June 2023

[krow]

5 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

Build a bridge and get over it.  You’re not in Kansas anymore sweetheart.

you make everyone hate this forum and stop posting on it. 

we used to be a community.

[AustralianFan]

4 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

2030 Bids

Speaking of a recent giggle in this thread and Princess Leia’s hologram

”Help me Sweden, you’re my only hope”  

here is the IOC President who has also popped up via hologram in Singapore

 

Credit: IOC President in Singapore - ITG - 23 June 2023

 

 

Credit: Sapporo 2030

…. well, it’s good that we can laugh and Princess Leia can pop up anywhere, giving us hope.

 

 

[Sir Rols]

[AustralianFan]

15 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

Love this!  Monthy Python

Tis but a scratch

[AustralianFan]

The Race to the 2030 Winter Games:  the IOC revealed there are six candidates amidst many questions

“Sweden confirmed that it is going for a rematch after the defeat in Milano-Cortina 2026 and Switzerland is also considering running while doubts grow in relation to those that were favorites: **Sapporo, Salt Lake City and Vancouver. What will be the sixth?”

“The 2030 Winter Olympic and Paralympic Games are still looking for its host. At this point, the process should be advanced and the three cities with possibilities of organizing them should be known by now, but the decision was postponed and everything suggests that only in Paris 2024 will the International Olympic Committee (IOC) inform the host.”

“In the last few hours, Christophe Dubi, executive director of the Olympic Games of the International Olympic Committee, revealed that there are six countries interested in having the 2030 Olympic Games.”

“We must respect the confidentiality of interested parties. They are clearly interested in a future edition of the Games and they are in continuous dialogue because we are discussing strategic elements,” said Dubi. And he acknowledged: “You know all of them, except for a sixth country that has not yet declared itself but is talking to us. The number is really six.”

“Sapporo (Japan), Salt Lake City (United States) and Vancouver (Canada) were the main candidates to host the 2030 Winter Games and the last countries to join were Switzerland and Sweden. The sixth is the unknown.”

“The favorites were having complications during the process. Sapporo seemed to be stinging, but the Japanese city does not want to be punctuated by corruption “scandals in the Tokyo 2020 organization. The citizens are not in favor of the Games and that is why it could aim for 2034, something that could also happen with Salt Lake City due to its proximity to Los Angeles 2028. Meanwhile, Vancouver’s candidacy suffered a severe setback when it did not receive support from the British Columbia government because of the high cost it would demand.”

“In this context, Sweden is once again dreaming of organizing the Olympic Games after losing the vote with Milano-Cortina for those that will be held in 2026. It could be accompanied by Norway, the Netherlands or Latvia.”

“Our preliminary study shows that Sweden has the opportunity, knowledge and will to organize the Winter Games in 2030,” said the president of the Swedish Olympic Committee, Hans von Uthmann, who announced that “a phase of dialogue” will begin with the IOC: “He has welcomed us to the next phase.”

“Switzerland, for its part, seems to be getting back into a race from which it seemed to have fallen when the joint organization with France and Italy fell due to Chamonix’s refusal. “We want to, we can, but we will only enter into a process when we’re ready. But the fact that the IOC has changed significant elements in the application process is a big plus point,” said Swiss Olympic President Jürg Stahl.”

“The 2020 Youth Olympic Games in Lausanne was a positive test for Switzerland, although a lot will depend on the referendum on the population, which on other occasions had a negative response.”

“One of the concerns of the International Olympic Committee, which also influenced the decision to postpone the decision to choose the venue, which was scheduled for this year, is the climate factor.”

“The last Games held in Beijing 2022 were held on artificial snow and the intention is to “guarantee temperatures below zero degrees at the venues of snow competitions”. And, in this sense, the IOC explained that “the preliminary results of outstanding academic research show a possible reduction in the number of climate-reliable hosts”.

“While waiting to learn about this sixth alternative, the race to the 2030 Games is still open and the winner would only be announced in Paris 2024.”

”And it is not ruled out that the IOC may also choose the city that will host the Winter Games in 2034.”

Credit: The race to the 2030 Winter Games - Around The Rings - 23 June

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Latest:  growing support for Sapporo 2030

**60 Pct in Japan Back 2030 Sapporo Winter Olympic Bid - Nippon.com - 22 June 2023

 

[AustralianFan]

FRANCE !

From KSL.com - Utah Breaking News:

The unidentified 6th country could be France, once part of a so-called "European super bid" that apparently fizzled. Last month, French IOC member Guy Drut told L'Équipe that two of the country's mountain regions should team up to bid for 2030.”

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SALT LAKE CITY — There's now just one unidentified contender in the race to host a Winter Games, joining Salt Lake City; Sapporo, Japan; Vancouver, Canada; along with a pair of new bidders, Sweden and Switzerland.

Previously, IOC Olympic Games Executive Director Christophe Dubi had said there was "new interest" that increased the total number of bidders to host the Winter Games in 2030 and 2034 or beyond.

Tuesday, Dubi declined to narrow down the places competing specifically for 2030, citing a "need to respect the confidentiality of those interested parties. They are very clear that they are interested in a future Games edition."

But he made it clear during a virtual news conference that the contenders are already known, "except a sixth country which has not yet declared but is talking to us and they are not in continuous dialog. So the number is really six.

The unidentified country could be France, once part of a so-called "European super bid" that apparently fizzled. Last month, French IOC member Guy Drut told L'Équipe that two of the country's mountain regions should team up to bid for 2030.

Dubi said it is important to leave "maximum level of flexibility" in the bidding process to allow for "strategic elements" to be part of the discussion during what's called the "continuous dialogue" stage of the IOC's new, less formal bid process.

He pointed out Switzerland is not bidding specifically for 2030, instead saying "they are interested to talk to us about any future edition of the Winter Games, which is somewhat reassuring."

[AustralianFan]

1 minute ago, AustralianFan said:

FRANCE !

From KSL.com - Utah Breaking News:

The unidentified 6th country could be France, once part of a so-called "European super bid" that apparently fizzled. Last month, French IOC member Guy Drut told L'Équipe that two of the country's mountain regions should team up to bid for 2030.”

.

SALT LAKE CITY — There's now just one unidentified contender in the race to host a Winter Games, joining Salt Lake City; Sapporo, Japan; Vancouver, Canada; along with a pair of new bidders, Sweden and Switzerland.

Previously, IOC Olympic Games Executive Director Christophe Dubi had said there was "new interest" that increased the total number of bidders to host the Winter Games in 2030 and 2034 or beyond.

Tuesday, Dubi declined to narrow down the places competing specifically for 2030, citing a "need to respect the confidentiality of those interested parties. They are very clear that they are interested in a future Games edition."

But he made it clear during a virtual news conference that the contenders are already known, "except a sixth country which has not yet declared but is talking to us and they are not in continuous dialog. So the number is really six.

The unidentified country could be France, once part of a so-called "European super bid" that apparently fizzled. Last month, French IOC member Guy Drut told L'Équipe that two of the country's mountain regions should team up to bid for 2030.

Dubi said it is important to leave "maximum level of flexibility" in the bidding process to allow for "strategic elements" to be part of the discussion during what's called the "continuous dialogue" stage of the IOC's new, less formal bid process.

He pointed out Switzerland is not bidding specifically for 2030, instead saying "they are interested to talk to us about any future edition of the Winter Games, which is somewhat reassuring."

So, I think the cat is out of the bag re France.

That would make the  six interested parties the IOC Future Host Commission is talking to as:

1. USA Salt Lake City confirmed in Cont. Dialogue -17Nov20
2. SWEDEN  Sweden confirmed in Conti. Dialogue - 16 June23
3. SWITZERLAND  Switzerland confirmed in Cont. Dialogue - 3 Apr23
4. JAPAN Sapporo confirmed in  Cont. Dialogue - 30Jan20
5. CANADA Canada confirmed in Cont. Dialogue - 21 June23
6. *FRANCE   *suspected to be the 6th: KSL.com - Utah Breaking News

[Bear]

Well if 2024 goes to plan, I can probably see France bidding in the future.

[FYI]

That's old news. That Utah news article is only rehashing what GB's reported back on May 17th, on what Guy Drut told a French news agency back then. Saying what he thought "should" be a plan, not what's actually going on.

And like I said then, I still maintain that France is all too busy in trying to execute a successful Paris 2024, & any future Olympic endeavors are in the back-burner, especially 2030.

And particularly when there's still the unpopular, new retirement age increase into law that protesters forced their way into Paris 2024 headquaters, & not to mention the recent raid on the same Paris 2024 headquaters just the other day. I wouldn't be surprised that the two are intertwined, cause the timing is so coincidental.

Certainly all local Olympic officials are all too busy with all those 2024 events (not to mention preparing for next year's Summer Games) to even remotely concentrate on 2030, especially when a host for that has to be (or at least should be) declared no later than the Paris 2024 IOC session, TBW. 

[FYI]

41 minutes ago, Bear said:

Well if 2024 goes to plan, I can probably see France bidding in the future.

Exactly, IF 2024 goes mostly smooth. But as you said, "in the future", like 2034 or 2038. Cause 2030 seems extremely unlikely with all the current events going on in France right now.

[AustralianFan]

37 minutes ago, Bear said:

Well if 2024 goes to plan, I can probably see France bidding in the future.

Yep, for sure in the future.

IOC member Guy Drut talks about involving both the southern and northern Alps in France.:

“If we succeed, we have a small chance, a chance, to get them,” the IOC member, Guy Drut, said. “If the request is made only by the Southern Alps, it will not work. We need a bid bringing together the Southern Alps and the Northern Alps.”

“In the English version of the story posted earlier this week, Drut was described as referring to the French Riviera city of Nice holding ice events while skiing and snowboarding competitions would be held in the Rhone-Alpes to the north.”

“The newspaper reported Drut indicated that would be supported by another French member of the IOC, Martin Fourcade, but that the French National Olympic and Sports Committee had yet to formally back the bid.”

Ice Events:  Nice, France.

Sliding events: La Plagne Sliding Centre - laplagne.com

Skiing and Snowboarding: Rhone-Alpes

“GamesBids.com said Chamonix’s participation “would likely be a key component” in a new French bid for 2030. France’s last official Winter Games bid was for 2018, an Olympics that went to Pyeongchang, South Korea.”

Credit:  Oui, this country may be a late entry in the race to host the 2030 Winter Games - Deseret.com

[AustralianFan]

9 minutes ago, AustralianFan said:

Yep, for sure in the future.

IOC member Guy Drut talks about involving both the southern and northern Alps in France.:

“If we succeed, we have a small chance, a chance, to get them,” the IOC member, Guy Drut, said. “If the request is made only by the Southern Alps, it will not work. We need a bid bringing together the Southern Alps and the Northern Alps.”

“In the English version of the story posted earlier this week, Drut was described as referring to the French Riviera city of Nice holding ice events while skiing and snowboarding competitions would be held in the Rhone-Alpes to the north.”

“The newspaper reported Drut indicated that would be supported by another French member of the IOC, Martin Fourcade, but that the French National Olympic and Sports Committee had yet to formally back the bid.”

Ice Events:  Nice, France.

Sliding events: La Plagne Sliding Centre - laplagne.com

Skiing and Snowboarding: Rhone-Alpes

“GamesBids.com said Chamonix’s participation “would likely be a key component” in a new French bid for 2030. France’s last official Winter Games bid was for 2018, an Olympics that went to Pyeongchang, South Korea.”

Credit:  Oui, this country may be a late entry in the race to host the 2030 Winter Games - Deseret.com

 

Agree with others that France is highly unlikely not interested in a 2030 Games but “other future games” especially with the carrot of a permanent rotating host pool maybe just around the corner.

IOC Executive Director, Christophe Dubi has confirmed that this 6th interested party in future games (which I think is France), is not in continuous dialogue at this stage. 

With a 2030 Host Election only 12 months away, if you’re not in continuous dialogue by now, you’re not gunning for the 2030 Games.  

[AustralianFan]

Stockholm 2030!!

Government Support  >>> Stockholm 2030 thread - Gamesbids.com

[iceman530]

Very happy to see that!  Aint done til its done, but things are moving reasonably well.