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Everything posted by Quaker2001

  1. 2nd to last paragraph is all that matters. Salt Lake wants 2034 to distance themselves from LA. But they'll be on the ready for 2030 in case the IOC is desperate and I'm sure the USOPC will milk that for every dollar it's worth
  2. They're not trying to host the Olympics in Spain right now. They're looking at a decade from now, when (hopefully) COVID is a distant memory. Economic troubles are nothing new for Spain, as we learned with their Madrid 2020 bid. I agree I don't think this is a great idea, but like the story noted, they're at the point where they need government approval, so good luck on that one because it seems like the government could and probably should shoot them down.
  3. At this point in the world, Tokyo might *not* get cancelled. Either way, it will have no bearing on what happens with 2022. China was "rewarded" with the hosting rights to the 2022 Olympics more than 5 years ago. There are signed contracts between China and the IOC where neither side can back out on a whim. Despite what you have as the title of the thread, it is way too late to move the 2022 Olympics from China. So the IOC has 2 choices.. hold the 2022 Winter Games in Beijing as scheduled. Or cancel them entirely. Do you think for a split second the IOC will consider doing that? Ze
  4. That'll be interesting. So we'll go from "athletes shouldn't make political statements" to "every athlete is making a political statement." Hopefully most people aren't that vapid to think that any athlete who wants to compete in the Olympics is supporting China. Again, tell that to every athlete who missed out on the 1980 Olympics and never got another shot
  5. And how exactly would that work? Is the UK going to stop funding Summer athletes too? Because that's going to be a terrible optic to fund athletes for Tokyo and then not fund athletes for Beijing 6 months later. Even if there's a pretty obvious political motive behind it, the messaging is likely going to get lost and in the end, the only thing that will have been accomplished is that Great Britain will have stolen what could be some athletes' only shot at the Olympics
  6. Are you seeing the pattern develop here? Politicians are calling for boycotts. Those who actually have a stake in the Olympics and Olympic committees are essentially telling them to piss off.
  7. Have you noticed the common thread running through a lot of these articles? Politicians want boycotts. But they don't seem too eager to impose that upon the athletes. In other words.. exactly what I've been saying this while time. Will the Australian Olympic Committee or the British Olympics Committee or whoever else tell their Olympics they're not going to compete? Because it remains a question whether or not the threat of withholding funding would even be on the table. To say it yet again.. I'll believe it when I see it
  8. Let's revisit that one a month from now and hope and pray that there is hope for the future and not that the American dream can officially be dead and buried
  9. Once again for those in the nosebleed seats.. this is not 1980. This is not the cold war. China as the United States' biggest enemy in 2020 is a completely different situation than the Soviet Union as the United States' biggest enemy in 1980. I'm losing track of how many times this needs to be said to you... none of this implies there will be a boycott of the 2022 Olympics. You keep wanting to jump over that step and you need to stop doing that
  10. Because this isn't 1980. That was the height of the Cold War. The Soviet Union was our sworn enemy. And because this is how history looks back on what happened.. Jimmy Carter’s Disastrous Olympic Boycott Folks on this site have a habit of saying "there's this thing that happened, so I think it can happen again" while losing any and all context. You can't over-simplify this all to say there was a boycott in 1980, so that's why I think there will be a boycott in 2022. What exactly did the 1980 boycott achieve? Other than a whole lot of nothing. The lasting effects where that it h
  11. 2 senators out of 100 is not "plenty." No, I don't think those people will then try and get an athlete boycott happening. It's one thing for a politician to feel strongly about something and work to make it happen. It's another thing entirely for that same politician to force that on somebody else and basically say "I hate China, therefore I demand that you athletes not go there." Good luck with that.
  12. And how does that result in a US boycott of the 2022 Olympics? Much like REDWHITEBLUE, you're not really making that connection there
  13. The USA isn't moving towards athletes boycotting. That's not a thing that's happening except in this crazy scenario you're building up in your head. Like I've said saying.. absolutely can see a scenario where politicians and other higher ups refuse to attend. But I don't see them turning that into something where they are deciding for the athletes that they can't make the trip.
  14. No. This is a media-driven world. If a country like the United States boycotts, NBC will have little interest in putting together some sort of rival event on almost no notice. Especially for a Winter event. We won't see something akin to the Goodwill Games
  15. No.. a pretty big leap. Because as you illustrated... Is that really a surprise to you that athletes and NOCs want no part of a boycott? I'm sure if they had their choice, they'd like to go somewhere other than China. But how many want to wait another 4 years for the next Olympics? As history tells us, the state of the world didn't really improve because Western nations largely stayed away from Moscow. In the end, it was only the athletes that got hurt. Calls for boycotts are coming from politicians who are looking to make a name for themselves. They care about the cause mor
  16. Wow, what a huge development. That's a real game changer that a Tasmanian liberal senator is asking Australia to "seriously consider" a boycott of the Winter Olympics. With all due respect to Australia, which has been increasing its medal count at recent Olympics, this is just more politicking and is hardly a serious movement. Yet again, it needs to be said.. it's a big leap from talking about boycotting and actually boycotting.
  17. I love these Grand Canyon-sized disconnects with you. "It could easily be mentioned" is miles and miles away from "I think it's quite likely Trump will commit to a boycott before election day." Again, I agree that it's far from the realm of impossible that Trump could get it in his head to offer a giant "**** you" to China and making a stand to not send athletes there. But you are outside of your mind if you think that has any chance of gaining traction in the 6 1/2 weeks we have until election day
  18. And now you're just trolling. There's zero chance of that happening and you know it. On what planet could you possibly think that Trump will spend more than 4 seconds thinking and the 2022 Olympics before Election Day?
  19. This isn't 1936 where we're hoping Jesse Owens will stick it to Hitler and the Nazis and ruin his vision of Aryan supremacy. No athlete or team at the Olympics could resonate in that manner or what the 1980 U.S. hockey team did. Also.. Trump wouldn't accept the hand-off. That honor belongs to the mayor of LA to do that. Trump might want to be in France so he can get some attention, but that doesn't mean he'll play a part in that ceremony, especially since he won't be in office come 2028. Sure, Trump is all about showmanship, but Trump is also about Trump. So how's that going to
  20. Again, it is a major jump to take for a politician to express their views on China and to actively campaign against them. The former is easy. The latter is not.
  21. There's a pretty massive jump from "have a view" to "publicly pushing for boycotts." Don't make the assumption that those handful of politicians with a negative view of China will choose to use their political capital to outspokenly try to persuade the IOC to boycott. Let alone that they'll be listened to by the authorities that actually matter and can influence the actual decision rather than just make noise about it
  22. Most politicians will have the good sense not to get involved. 99% of them won't have an opinion on whether or not to boycott. You need to get off this assumption that this is going to be a main priority for them and that somehow a large groundswell of people will tell the USOPC to boycott. Again, if it's Trump in the White House, we know a lot of his constituents will follow his lead. But even then, "the United States hates China" is not enough to lead to a boycott. Especially since the USOPC, unlike almost every other country's NOC, is not funded by the government. Easier for something
  23. Meh. If Tokyo gets goes, that's more a credit to Tokyo than it is to the IOC. What happens with Beijing will probably reflect more on the IOC since they chose China as the host (which is largely their fault in the first place for scaring off other prospective hosts) and how everyone handles increasing political tensions. Either way, the next 3 hosts area already locked in and they're all more traditional Western nations without a lot of question marks. Yes, they'll survive. They have a reserve of cash on hand, so they'll be able to weather that storm and it's largely Japan that wil
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