gotosy Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 IAAF: No reinstatement for Russian track at this stage MONACO (AP) — The IAAF says Russia's track and field federation has not yet done enough to reform its anti-doping program to have its athletes reinstated to global competition. IAAF President Sebastian Coe made the announcement on Friday at the end of a two-day council meeting, saying Russia "should not be reinstated at this stage." Coe said the IAAF will hold another council meeting in May to make a final decision on whether Russia will be readmitted in time for the Olympics in Rio de Janeiro in August. The IAAF suspended Russia in November after an independent report detailed systematic corruption and doping cover-ups in the country. It laid down a series of criteria for the Russians to return before they can be eligible for readmission. http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/e3c59740d0ab4758a1328dad002091b7/fate-russias-track-could-be-decided-friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinXTC Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I have this terrible feeling that even if they don't meet standards and improvements by May, they're going reinstate them anyways. If there is any way to lay a crushing blow to Russia's image and embarrass them internationally where they actually care, it's at the Olympics. And a country-wide ban would do that for all athletes, not just for athletics events. With Maria Sharapova, a Russian tennis player, confessing to doping recently, it's very clear that the Russian doping problem IS NOT just confined to athletics events. I would check the gymnastics athletes as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Maria Sharapova, a Russian tennis player, confessing to doping recently, Or to be more precise, confessing to not stopping use of a medicine she had been taking for years while it was not on the list of banned substances, when she ought to have undertaken a reduction-to-zero programme throughout October, November and December 2015 following official notification of banning in September 2015, to take effect from January 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 It's a bit odd she was taking a medicine for ten years which the manufacturers say should be taken for a few weeks. Even odder that she should be taking a medicine which isn't available in the US, where she lives. Even odder, as Andy Murray said yesterday (he really didn't mince his words if you want to read his interview), that so many young, fit athletes apparently have this heart condition, and that this heart condition seems to be affecting Russians more than any other nation. Must be something in their genes eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 It's tennis, golf, track. Who cares? I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinXTC Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 It's tennis, golf, track. Who cares? I don't. Of course you don't. The athletes aren't underage and undressed enough for you to care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Errr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Of course you don't. The athletes aren't underage and undressed enough for you to care. jeez... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Let's sum up the current state of affairs: Russia's track and field athletes already got banned from 2016, the boss of the Russian wrestling association muses about retracting his athletes from Rio 2016 due to a big number of doping revelations in his team, a Times report hints that there was/is systematic doping also in Russia's swimming team and also Russia's tennis star Maria Sharapova has created nasty doping headlines. I think the IOC now seriously have to think about banning Russia from Rio 2016 (at the very least) altogether. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 . I think the IOC now seriously have to think about banning Russia from Rio 2016 (at the very least) altogether. Well, their indoor Volleyball M & W teams (which personally I think are clean) have both qualified; so a total Russian ban, will have to cause FIVB to scramble in order to replace the Russian teams who won their Euro qualifying tournaments. That would move France in for the men; and I think Italy for the women. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchbearerSydney Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Some good news.... Australian 2008 and 2012 50KM Walk silver medalist (behind drug cheats both times , ITA and RUS ) Jared Tallent looks set to get the 2012 GOLD MEDAL! Some justice for someone cheated twice in one of the most grueling events. Some good news.... Australian 2008 and 2012 50KM Walk silver medalist (behind drug cheats both times , ITA and RUS ) Jared Tallent looks set to get the 2012 GOLD MEDAL! Some justice for someone cheated twice in one of the most grueling events. http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/25/australian-walker-jared-tallent-claims-2012-olympic-gold-after-ruling-on-russian-drug It will also lift AUS from 10th to 8th on the G-S-B medal tally for 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 WADA opens way for athletes to avoid sanctions for meldonium LONDON (AP) — In a dramatic change that could lead to numerous doping cases being thrown out, athletes who tested positive for meldonium may be able to avoid sanctions because of a lack of scientific evidence on how long the recently banned drug stays in the system. The World Anti-Doping Agency said Wednesday provisional suspensions can be lifted if it is determined that an athlete took meldonium before it was placed on the list of banned substances on Jan. 1. "It's not an amnesty as such," WADA President Craig Reedie told The Associated Press. More than 120 positive tests for meldonium have been recorded in various sports and countries — many in Russia — since the drug was prohibited by WADA. The highest profile case involves Maria Sharapova, who announced last month that she tested positive during the Australian Open in January. Some athletes who have tested positive have claimed meldonium remained in their systems for months even though they stopped using it last year. Sharapova did not specify when she had last used meldonium. Some sports federations pressed WADA to address the issue and advise how they should proceed in dealing with meldonium cases. The Latvian-made drug, which is typically prescribed for heart conditions, was widely used as a supplement by athletes in Eastern European countries. The drug increases blood flow, which improves exercise capacity by carrying more oxygen to the muscles. In a notice to national anti-doping agencies, WADA acknowledged that "there is a lack of clear scientific information" on how long it takes for meldonium to clear the system. While several studies are currently being carried out by WADA-accredited laboratories, preliminary results show that long-term excretion of meldonium can take weeks or months, it said. As a result, it is possible that athletes who took meldonium before Jan. 1 "could not reasonably have known or suspected" that the drug would still be present in their bodies after that date, WADA said. "In these circumstances WADA considers that there may be grounds for no fault or negligence on the part of the athlete," the statement said. Reedie said the notice was sent out to all national anti-doping bodies on Tuesday and would be posted on the agency's website on Wednesday. The notice was released earlier Wednesday by Russia's anti-doping agency. "It is designed to explain the science that we know," Reedie told the AP in a telephone interview. "The issue that it deals with is the time this drug takes to come out of the system. It's an attempt to clarify the many questions that we've been asked." The Russian sports ministry and national Olympic committee welcomed the WADA statement, and the country's officials suggested there could be a mass amnesty of Russian athletes. Russian tennis federation head Shamil Tarpishchev told the R-Sport agency he hoped that Sharapova would be able to play at the Olympics in Rio de Janeiro in August, while the head of the Russian swimming federation suggested there could be a swift return to competition for suspended world champion Yulia Efimova. "In no way does this serve as an 'amnesty' for athletes that are asserted to have committed an anti-doping rule violation," WADA spokesman Ben Nichols told the AP in an email. "Rather, it serves as guidance for how anti-doping organizations should assess the particular circumstances of each individual case under their jurisdiction." The meldonium cases have no bearing on the ongoing suspension of Russia's track and field team following a WADA commission report into what it called state-sponsored doping. Sharapova, a winner of five Grand Slam titles, said she had been taking meldonium for medical reasons over a 10-year period and had not seen a WADA notice last year that the drug would be banned starting in 2016. Sharapova was provisionally suspended by the International Tennis Federation pending a disciplinary hearing. "We can confirm that the case is ongoing and that there will be a hearing," ITF spokesman Nick Imison told the AP on Wednesday. "I have seen the statement from WADA and obviously any ongoing cases will take that information from WADA, but it won't affect the fact that there is an ongoing case." WADA said prosecution of meldonium cases can be "stayed" and provisional suspensions lifted if the concentration of the drug in the system is between 1 and 15 micrograms per millileter and the test was carried out before March 1, or if the level is below 1 microgram per millileter and the doping control was conducted after March 1. In both cases, the drug could still be in the athletes' system from before Jan. 1. The agency said doping cases should be pursued, however, in the case of athletes who admit having taken meldonium on or after Jan. 1. The same applies to cases where the concentration of the drug is above 15 micrograms per millileter and where the level is between 1 and 15 and the drug test was after March 1. AP http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/8c9b64ccd7524d5a8f85a445551676f6/wada-opens-way-athletes-avoid-sanctions-meldonium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Oh dear... I'm sure that quite a few cheating athletes and officials popped a few bottles of champagne yesterday... Or should I say: Shampanskoye....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Surely no Rio for Russian T&F if this is true? The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has informed the Russian Olympic Committee (ROC) that 14 Russian athletes are suspected of using doping at the 2008 Summer Olympic Games in Beijing, a source in the ROC told TASS on Tuesday. Suspicions emerged against the Russians after their doping samples were re-examined at the initiative of the IOC. "The ROC has received the respective documents," a member of the national Olympic Committee said. The names of suspects have not been revealed but reports say that the majority of them are track and field athletes. More: http://tass.ru/en/sport/877679 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 So out of the 55 positive tests from 2008 and 2022, 22 of them are Russian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO2024 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 So out of the 55 positive tests from 2008 and 2022, 22 of them are Russian. You meant 2012 of course. Well, yes I just read that, and this is not counting the probably massive results of the 2014 Olympics. This is definitely not looking good for Russia and the 2016 Olympics. And not looking good at all for the IOC either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarkSnow2012 Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 You meant 2012 of course. Well, yes I just read that, and this is not counting the probably massive results of the 2014 Olympics. This is definitely not looking good for Russia and the 2016 Olympics. And not looking good at all for the IOC either. Maybe the Russians should be allowed to compete, but just not eligible for any medals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 Maybe the Russians should be allowed to compete, but just not eligible for any medals. Why? Putin would then hand over self-made medals declaring them the true winners etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 You meant 2012 of course. Well, yes I just read that, and this is not counting the probably massive results of the 2014 Olympics. This is definitely not looking good for Russia and the 2016 Olympics. And not looking good at all for the IOC either. No I mean 55 from 2008 and 2012 2008: 14 Russians of 34 positives 2012: 8 Russians of 22 positives And this is going to not be at all nice, but I beat a lot of those other positive tests are Belorussian, Ukrainian and Polish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO2024 Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 http://www.lemonde.fr/athletisme/article/2016/06/02/dopage-lanceurs-d-alerte-olympique_4931609_1616661.html A very interesting documentary about doping in sports, with athletes talking about their experiences with doping. It will be available on the ARTE channel ( a franco-german channel) in a couple of days. Unfortunately at the moment it's in french, but it also probably will be in german, and maybe with subtitles in other languages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinXTC Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Maybe the Russians should be allowed to compete, but just not eligible for any medals. That is quite possibly the stupidest suggestion I've ever heard. If we're not going to give them any medals, then they have no reason to compete. We either let them compete and aggressively test their blood for doping for years and strip them of their medals if need be, or we just ban them from competing. This isn't the Special Olympics where we applaud them for their courage to compete under their conditions because their condition is self-implicated. This is also due to a nationwide system, and personally I'd rather see ALL of Russia banned from competing, not just the T&F athletes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Maria Sharapova Is Suspended From Tennis for Two Years Maria Sharapova was suspended for two years by the International Tennis Federation on Wednesday for testing positive for a performance-enhancing substance. Sharapova, 29, announced in March that she tested positive for meldonium on Jan. 26 at the Australian Open and began serving a provisional suspension. Meldonium, a heart medication that is said to improve blood flow and allow athletes to recover faster, was added to the World Anti-Doping Agency’s prohibited list in January after the agency monitored its use for a year. ... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/09/sports/tennis/maria-sharapova-doping-suspension.html?_r=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 You couldn't make some of this **** up: Russian Sports Minister Vitaly Mutko wants all retested doping samples from the 2008 and 2012 Olympics to be thrown out because of alleged flaws in the reanalysis process. "A laboratory which falsely declared a positive test result must be stripped of its accreditation and all the samples it tested must be declared invalid," Mutko told Russia's Tass news agency on Wednesday. The IOC has reported 55 positive findings in retesting of stored samples from the 2008 Beijing Games and 2012 London Olympics. The Russian Olympic Committee has said 22 of the cases involved Russian athletes, including medalists. Russian officials said two of the athletes were cleared when their "B'' samples tested negative, contradicting the positive "A'' samples. Mutko said those two cases were enough justification for the entire retesting program to be scrapped. http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/russia-denies-allegations-minister-involved-doping-39692424 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Two years for Sharapova? That's the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. No, wait, I forgot about the suggestion Russia be allowed to compete but not get medals. Sharapova's the 2nd most ridiculous thing I've ever heard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinXTC Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Two years for Sharapova? That's the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. No, wait, I forgot about the suggestion Russia be allowed to compete but not get medals. Sharapova's the 2nd most ridiculous thing I've ever heard Is it ridiculous because it's too high, too low, or that she got one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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