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  1. It would take the IOC to eat humble pie. Its like on an individual basis most of the main functioning members of the IOC are normal, rational people. But put them in the same room with the other idiot hangers-on that somehow continue to become members and everything goes out the window. The IOC should have had this meal and accepted Oslo's demands for 2022 instead we have what is coming next. They need to actually learn from this instead of trying to duct tape over everything.
  2. Imagine: It is late 2022 and the IOC has the news that SLC, Sapporo and Vancouver are not bidding. Leaving them with Lviv and Sochi The ExCo meets and puts out feelers to local governments in the major winter European countries. What concessions it would take, what Euro figure would be required. I cannot imagine a scenario where Switzerland/Austria/France/Norway/Sweden would not at least try to get their populace on board if that IOC was willing to negotiate a true host city contract and provide at least 1.5 billion euros in funding. If you look at the model of Milano/Cortina; possibilities of Zurich-Lausanne-St Moritz-Davos or Salzburg-Klagenfurt-Graz-Innsbruck don't seem all that impossible. The only one where I think their might be issues Is Munich-Garmish because Garmish seemed to go down more on the environmental issue. The cost to accommodate a Western European host should be the lesser pill to swallow for the IOC then Sochi 2.0. And I can only imagine the pressure the IFs (who are already unhappy) would bring to bear on the IOC. I also think the IOC would likely prefer accommodating European demands then to have to negotiate SLC wanting 2030 instead of 2034.
  3. Y'all speak of Norway; but the IOC has 5 other European countries it could come to hat-in-hand with a bag of money to get going. France (Grenoble and surrounding) Germany (Munich and surrounding) Switzerland (f-ck it, the whole country) Sweden (Stockholm with a side of Are and Latvia) Austria (Vienna with their mountain regions) If the IOC was struck, they could easily get one of these to host at shorter noticed if the money was right. It would probably take a package of concessions similar to what Norway asked for and the financial package that is being given to LA. But it could be done. Especially overtop of the Milano-Cortina model.
  4. Toronto was undone because of an American city in the race. Plain and simple. There was more money to be had going to second tier American city then Canada's biggest. Versus Melbourne alone Toronto would have been likely favoured to go over Athens. Comparing Brisbane to Kansas City is a bit unfair. Brisbane is much closer to Houston in terms of cultural flavour and Chicago for national importance (Calgary and Vancouver would be Canadian comparables) Paris - Milano - Los Angeles - Blank - Brisbane - Blank - Blank could and should be the single greatest string of hosts in Olympic history. Only repeat host being bantered about that I wouldn't like to see is Salt Lake. Even London would be better then having to suffer through a Shanghai games. Or Delhi
  5. But could you imagine if Tokyo had won 2016 and Rio had won 2020?
  6. I think the biggest issue is not within Japan, other then the severe aversion to risk, but within the IOC. Bach outright said they didn't want to take anything away that would make this just another sporting event. In reality the athletes should have been segregated by sport and isolated from each other into 30 plus separate bubbles. But would reduce the event to 30 separate championships instead of the Olympic Games.
  7. Lord how this place has withered on the vine. Tokyo and the IOC had the NBA bubble, the two NHL bubbles and the Champions league bubble to learn from. Yet because they refused to sacrifice the parade of nations and the athletes village they have f-cking cocked this **** right up. Like Lord Jesus, what in the goddamn hell were these nitwits thinking. Its not f-cking hard. All Judoka your bubble is here, all fencers - here. All gymnasts over there. Instead he have the countries together and MIXING for f-cksakes. Like really, you have Johnson committing another Holodomor agains the youth of the UK for the good of the old farts and now this **** WHAT THE F-CK PS Puppy I hope you're well.
  8. The political situation in China has radically deteriorated since 2008. Leading up to 2008 China was lead by someone hand-picked by Deng Xaiopeng in his efforts to mordernize and reform the CPC of the excesses of the Mao era. There is not going to be a transition of power in 2022/2023 like there has been since the end of the Deng era. Xi is dictator for life and every prominent old guard member is either behind him, or sidelined. That has lead to the excesses we have seen from what is happening in Hong Kong, to the Uighurs, to Pacific coast nations of the Americas shitting themselves over the size and scope of Chinese fishing fleets coming their way. The world is going to have to unify against a much more aggressive and belligerent China under Mr Pooh. I remember wanting to go to Beijing in 2008 and almost pulled the trigger to do it, now there is not a hope in hell I will set foot in that country. China is fucking scary, and the potential for fullscale war is something that you would have thought unimaginable 12 years ago is now a serious possibility. With China having a lot of advantageous. India would face war on two or three fronts, how can anyone protect Taiwan, Vietnam and the Philippines? Let a lone the potential danger posed to Japan and Korea. People thought economic integration would limit wars 80 years ago, it didn't and it won't now. Beijing 2022 could be just as easily, and some could say more likely, cancelled because of war as because of this pandemic.
  9. Rumor is the IOC has discretely told both the COC and the SOC that they will provide up to 1.4 billion in funding. Up from the 0.95ish that was originally reported. The IOC is desperate to get these games into Canada or Sweden.
  10. Unfortunately the Richmond Oval will never be an oval again. It cannot meet ISU requirements now because of the same geological concerns that meant VANOC and Richmond had to spend an extra couple of million to stabilize the foundations between 2005 and 2008 when it opened. As for ski jumping. As far as I've read the plan is to use Whistler for ski jumping and nordic combined and use Canmore for cross country and biathlon. Similar plan is in place for the other FIS events with Nakiska being used for snowboarding and freestyle skiing and alpine being at Lake Louis. As far as I know the IOC and FIS have already said this plan would be acceptable. I also believe that Edmonton is seriously being considered for one of the ice hockey venues.
  11. I’m uruguay and Argentina? **** that is some combination.
  12. I think it is much more likely seeing a European model be more like what has happened previously with Rugby World Cups. Germany with Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Antwerp and Brussels or France with Antwerp, Brussels, Zurich and Geneva as examples.
  13. There was some interesting votes. Venezuela voting for NA as did Russia. But out of the big European countries only Germany voted for NA. Italy France Netherlands voted Morocco and Spain didn’t vote.
  14. I certainly hope you are right, because FIFA needs a stable host without issues in 2026. Plus World Cup games an hour away. I am a lot more hopeful than I was a couple of days ago considering what has shifted in CONCACAF. But we never anticipated Russia/Qatar. I remember the night before a lot of people thinking it would be Spain/Portugal and USA. So....
  15. Surprising, because most indications a week ago were Morocco. Something must have changed to have turned the Americans into one block while the fragmentation of Africa and Asia stayed intake.
  16. Montagliani looks to have gotten CONCACAF into voting as a block. So with the Americas voting as one continuous block, that is almost 50 votes.
  17. Morocco by a mile. All of Africa and Asia are voting for Morocco and even some CONCACAF countries are voting Morocco. It is going to be probably 140-70ish for Morocco.
  18. Did I ever get Italy? And let's be reasonable. If I get England............
  19. Why not. I'll probably get stuck with Mexico again. And just because, I'm voluntelling Rob, Arwebb, CAF, Puppy, and Krow. So there is 11.
  20. If the Swiss, Swedes, Austrians or Norwegians get to the finish line, the IOC would be stupid to not give them the games. To finally get one of them to the day of voting and hand the Games back to Canada or Italy would be worse than giving the World Cup to Qatar.
  21. It depends on if Korea is serious about being a sliding country or just invested in the sport for the home Olympics. Canada wasn't a sliding country in 1988 and look at Canada now. Lots of people would have said looking at Calgary that it would be a white elephant and in 4 years time there will be three tracks in Asia relatively close together. Enough to make it worth the World Cup trip, just like having Lake Placid, Park City, Calgary and Vancouver make it worth the trip now.
  22. The USOC and organizational groups within Salt Lake for one.
  23. The defending World Champion and only women's team to go undefeated (against a stronger field) to win those World Championships is not a choker internationally. She has made the playoffs at ever WC she has been to and only ever lost to the eventual World Champion.
  24. It is hard to gauge because a lot of peoples opinions are tied to how ones own country did. (Canadians in general view Atlanta very fondly for instance but not Sydney or Athens). But the Olympics were low-key and nice. CBC's coverage wasn't the greatest. They've lost a lot of sports commentator talent due to cut-backs, lay-offs and retirements. So what was left wasn't always the greatest. The crushing disappointment of curling is hard to take. Especially since it wasn't like these were surprise low-ranked Canadian teams Homan is the defending World Champion and Koe is a two-time World Champion with 2 Olympic Gold Medalist on his team. It wasn't like the women's teams in 2002, 2006 and 2010 where skips past their prime got hot at the trials. I think Curling Canada put way too mush pressure on the teams and they cracked. Not allowing Homan to bring her natural alternate in Cheryl Kreviazuk (and yes she is related to the singer) and supplanting her natural coach with Rene Sonneburg was not a good choice. Add in Alex Harvery. If that guy had been Norwegian or German or Finnish he'd have 4 medals. He's Canadian and walked away with nothing. Also the equipment issues with bobsleigh was a little disappointing. You'd think OTP would have helped fund the team properly. Getting so close to 30 medals and coming up short. And I know Canada did really well, but the misses were just so bad. Thankfully so much of the team that won medals are young. There is a lot of potential still across freestyle skiing, short track and snowboarding. Beijing will be an interesting comparison. Hopefully they will tone things down a bit. But China's performance was shockingly bad for them. So we might be in for another Russia but with the brains to not get caught.
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