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TorchbearerSydney

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  1. No where did I suggest replicating Sydney...just made the point it was a 'cheap' Games.
  2. Q: C’mon. That’s re-writing history re Sydney I was quoting a detailed economic report on the history of the Olympic Games (which sadly I cannot find again ...damn). Sydney was very, very low tech, the build amortised over 10 years (the pool was completed before the bid), it was built in a low cost era (as opposed to the highly inflationary era we have today) and the greenfield site made things easy. Yes Sydney got a huge amount for its money- and it is hard to believe.
  3. There is a difference between a 'lower cost option' and a 'bargain basement' option. The IOC does not want the Games looking like a regional schools competition. People seem to have forgotten Sydney was a very lost cost Games ( per event in todays dollars and the third cheapest Games behind LA84 and Atlanta)...with low technology venues (some literally cattle sheds for the state fair) etc... There were no hero architects like Calatrava or Hadid, or Birds Nests in Sydney.....
  4. Brisbane seems to be interpreting the New Norm as 'make it as cheap as possible'.....The IOC did not want another Sochi- but it also I am sure doesn't want a budget spectacle unworthy of the Olympics. That would kill the Olympics just as quick as over-the-top extravagance.
  5. Q: this plan is fine What about the fact that over a billion will be spent, and in 2032 the city will still not have a decent Oval Stadium for football and cricket?
  6. I can just see IOC President Juan Antonio Junior at the 2032 Closing Ceremony- 'You have presented to the world the cheapest Olympic Games ever'......
  7. I am speechless- what a waste of money. No legacy. Crappy Olympic venue in every way. My policy for major infrastructure- do it once, and do it properly. It is never cheap- but nothing great in life is cheap. Sydney Olympic Park last Saturday Night- State Athletics Champs, State Swimming Champs, AUS Rules Football match and a 80,000 Pink Concert all going at once.... that's an Olympic legacy.
  8. Interesting- this plan (which I think is great) would free up the Gabba for Olympic use (possibly)...such as cricket.
  9. They have enough trouble herding the athletes from an indoor arena next door into the stadium and quickly around the arena. I am predicting a schmozzle with this bonkers boat idea.....we will see!
  10. As a huge Australian Olympic fan I would be happy to see Brisbane hand back the Games..... I think the timing in mid-winter is ridiculous for a 'beach resort' Games and will make it rather cold and miserable. Brisbane is a pretty uninspiring and dull new world city- car borne, spread out, the CBD criss-crossed by through roads and hemmed in by freeway interchanges. There is no landmark to identify Brisbane. They are looking for the cheapest solution for everything - including the stadium- which I suspect will be pretty agricultural as a result. They won the bid without a proper plan for the biggest venues WTF. Public opinion is at best lukewarm, and seems to be turning rapidly. They are following Paris and LA...and suffer by comparison. I dont even think it would be a big deal, 9 years is a long time. There are good candidates that could step in.
  11. Q: Also not using Penrith for the white water is fucking baffling to say the least. Not sure the competitors would enjoy lining up in July at the start line in the morning when its 1C to 5C or something similar..
  12. Q: I think I will give an extension, but not a long one I thought people could submit entries anytime for a dialogue, and the winner randomly announced unexpectedly. Sometimes even the winner of the next competition is announced too! That's how the Olympics work these days?
  13. Further details of potential opening scaling down. Sorry if this has been already posted- I am human and occasionally make mistakes. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1143147/from-grand-opening-for-all-opening-some
  14. Yes- its a good question....Reading between the lines it almost seemed like he was saying there would be no ceremony. Tokyo barely had an Opening Ceremony.
  15. Didnt Sydney have an Independent Olympic Coordination Authority that London copied?
  16. Reality check from Paris... Macron today- If France is hit again by extremist attacks or a security crisis in the run-up to the 2024 Olympics, the huge opening ceremony Paris plans to hold on the banks of the Seine could be postponed, French President Emmanuel Macron has said.
  17. I know this is a separate issue- but they have also said they have no Plan B if the Seine is too polluted for open water swimming....so a couple of days of heavy rain and ????
  18. Yes, and like Brisbane, you have turn up to discussions/dialogue with everything in place- public and government support, financial guarantees etc....the 'dialogue' part is a bit of a misnomer.
  19. The IOC should not have elevated Switzerland- 2038 wasn't even in discussion this time. It is like they are just making things upon the run these days. They should have just said 'we are finalizing 2030-2034, and welcome any interested parties to submit their interest in 2026, after Milan-Cortina'. Thats 12 years out....
  20. Sweden never REALLY commits to its bids...as in 110 percent and seems to think the IOC wont notice..... Its a shame, would love a Swedish Games. They will just have to rely on hosting Eurovision every second year!
  21. Looks like the IOC has pulled something out of thin air! I would invite the 'losers' to go straight into a dialogue for 2038.....they are safe choices and the IOC doesn't want a repeat of this mess again... The 2036 race is looking healthy.
  22. Its suitable, but far from ideal. How is spending 2.7billion on a new 50K stadium part of the 'new norm'?
  23. Q: There will be a warm-up track will at nearby Raymond Park. That's not a GABBA warm up track, that's a temporarily, repurposed park a few blocks down the street.... Look at Sydney for example, two warm up tracks attached to the main stadium by tunnels.
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