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  1. Today, September 11, 2022, marks several historic dates: The 9/11 attacks took place 21 years ago; 49 years ago, Chile's president Salvador Allende was toppled in a military coup and committed suicide, leading to the dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet; today in 2022, Queen Elizabeth II has left her beloved Balmoral Castle for the final time, with her coffin being taken from there towards Edinburgh and London; and 50 years ago today, the originally "serene Games" of Munich 1972 came to a close. The closing ceremony was much more somber and took one day later than originally planned, with the Bavarian dancers in their traditional costumes who were scheduled to perform standing in silence and a moment of silence for the victims of the atrocious terrorist attack on Israel's Olympic team six days before. A inflatable rainbow spanning along the perimeter of the Olympic Stadium lit up the night sky. To the sorrowful sounds of trumpets the Olympic Flame was extinguished. Only during the entrance of the athletes of all nations which were still present in Munich (the teams of Israel, Egypt, Algeria and Philippines had flown home after the terrorist attack) and after the official end of the closing ceremony, there were still some joyous moments with the athletes dancing on the infield to the sounds of Beethoven's Ode to Joy and a pop arrangement of the Munich 1972 fanfare. I hope you can open this video also from other countries than Germany - but here is some footage of that closing ceremony, starting at minute 09:38: Report made in 1997 by Bavarian public broadcaster BR about the closing day of the Munich 1972 Games So this marks the end of the 50 year anniversary of the Munich 1972 Games. And even if it is under much different conditions, the anniversary ends on a much more somber note than how it began, just like the Munich 1972 Games themselves. Back then, much of the originally happy and festive mood had gone after the senseless kidnapping and killing of the Israeli hostages. Now, the world is mourning Queen Elizabeth II which already had spent 20 years on the throne by the time that her husband Philip and her daughter Anne travelled to the Games of Munich. Four years later, Princess Anne would perform in the equestrian events of Montreal 1976, Games in a much less innocent and naive atmosphere, with heavy security measures, especially for the Israeli Olympic team. Munich 1972 presented a seismic shift in how the world perceived the conflicts in the Middle East and international terrorism. After the disastrous attempt to free the Israeli hostages at Fürstenfeldbruck Air Base, Germany formed the GSG-9 special unit which was successful in freeing the passengers and crew members aboard the Lufthansa plane "Landshut" which was kidnapped and abducted by Palestinian terorrists to Mogadishu in Somalia in October of 1977. 24 years after Mogadishu, the world got to know a whole new monstrous dimension of terrorism when the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were attacked - 29 years to the day after the final moments of Munich 1972. It shows that we have to learn from historic experiences - and history keeps repeating itself, not always, but astonishingly often. I sincerely hope that we still strive to become a better humanity and to live in peace. Because then, the eleven Israeli athletes and coaches who lost their lives during the Munich 1972 Games have not died in vain. I dedicate this tribute to them and even if I wasn't even alive back then, I am deeply sorry that my home country Germany did not enough to protect or at least finally save their lives. It was a terrible mistake, born out of incredible naiveté and arrogance on the organisers' and politicians' part. Munich 1972 had the potential of becoming marvellous Olympic Games, much lighter, more open, less martial than the Berlin 1936 Games. In the end, the organisers' negligence led to another Olympic catastrophe on German soil. It remains to be shown whether Germany will ever host Olympic Games again and then finally pull off a truly happy, secure and successful edition of the Games. 50 years later, this is still a dream unfulfilled.
  2. It seems to me that the Munich 1972 didn't have a topic of its own in this section of the forum - so here we are, exactly to the day 50 years after the opening ceremony of Munich 1972: a tribute to the most recent Olympic Games in Germany. It is somewhat depressing that it is already half a century ago, and counting. The European Championships that took place during the past two weeks in and around Munich's Olympiapark (Olympic Park) sparked new interest in a German bid for the Olympic Games, but bearing in mind how German Olympic bids ended in the past 30 years, I'm still sceptical sadly whether Germany can pull that off against strong public opposition in times of a corrupt, greedy and oblivious IOC. But that said, let's take a step back down memory lane to another time - seemingly more carefree and innocent, even if horrible things were about to happen during those, the "serene Games" of Munich 1972. Here is a great video I found today on Twitter, commemorating that sunny and mild Bavarian late summer day when the Games of the XX Olympiad opened. Enjoy some great pictures capturing the spirit of the summer of 1972, behind the scenes of an opening ceremony that back then stunned the world especially with its music for the parade of nations. You can hear some parts of that music in the video, too. The pictures were taken by a photographer who was accompanied by his son to the opening ceremony who now composed this video. https://gerdhachmann.hamburg/wernerhachmann/reisen/deutschland/bayern/muenchen1972.mp4
  3. And by the way, he called Xi the "President of the Republic of China" only at the beginning of his speech. When he came to the end and asked Xi to open the Games, he properly addressed him as "President of the People's Republic of China".
  4. Even if I took the time on Saturday to re-watch the opening ceremony, I must say that it was forgettable to me just like actually both Olympic ceremonies and (apart from the occasional great sports moment) the entire Beijing 2022 Olympic and Paralympic Games. Highly generic, no real human warmth, passing by without leaving any impact on oneself. I think it is only fitting for the times we live in - where problems (also those created by or in cooperation with China - thinking about Xi's request for Putin postponing the attack on Ukraine until after the Olympics) in the world are so prominent and depressing that one can't simply enjoy a global sports event anymore, especially not if it is staged by such a repressive and self-serving regime. I feel really sorry for the Paralympic athletes that they (who are dependent on getting their well-deserved public attention at least every four years during the Paralympics) have to compete in the shadow of such a horrific and unnecessary war. I think the focus of large parts of the world lies elsewhere right now.
  5. Well, that was really a short opening ceremony. Not much more to say here, as I watched only the last 30 minutes of it.
  6. I just thought: "Poor guy, why does no one help him with that torch?" Somehow the Chinese love to bring disabled athletes into really tough situations during their Paralympic cauldron lightings. I remember the athlete who had to pull himself up to the cauldron for the 2008 Paralympics while Li Ning was pulled up there automatically for the Olympic opening ceremony.
  7. Fair point, of course now is a time full of symbolic actions because the world has not a lot of other options, as the NATO has ruled out military action. And I understand that the Russian and Belarusian athletes find this treatment unfair, but frankly, I want them to blame their respective presidents for it - they have to go and it was their decision to start this ugly and uncalled-for war. And I think that is an additional sentiment behind those bans currently put into place against Russian and Belarusian representatives or institutions.
  8. I just joined in due to work appointments, but I read that Parsons gave a strong statement for peace? Well, that is a lot from someone who almost accepted Russian and Belarusian athletes at these Games despite all that has happened in their name in Ukraine.
  9. Thanks for the heads-up! I didn't expect Salt Lake City to be in such a strong position, bearing in mind that the LA Games will take place only two years earlier. But I guess that geopolitics play no big role in the IOC anymore, after three Asian Olympic Games in a row. Back to Munich: I'm really curious how well the spread out concept of Milan and Cortina 2026 will play out. If the IOC is okay with it also in hindsight, this would of course open the door real wide for future (especially) winter bids like Munich who can't provide a compact venue concept. And if Milan/Cortina's sledding events have to take place in another country, this might open the door even more.
  10. Even under the current rules, we would have seen far more relaxed Games with more spectators this month in Munich than we did in "zero Covid" Beijing during the past two weeks or in "Oops, we started our vaccinations too late" Tokyo last summer. Sorry if I ask a stupid question (I didn't really follow the race for 2030 so far), but doesn't stand Vancouver a good chance for 2030 so that neither Sapporo nor Salt Lake should be needed?
  11. Those are good reasons for Oberstdorf, @munichfan. I think it is unavoidable to have a spread-out Games plan if you want to stage sustainable and (relatively) eco-friendly Games. Concentrating the skiing, sledding and speed skating events in only a few locations in or near the mountains might lead to a logistical nightmare for the respective small towns and thus to increased public opposition there. I think it is a charming idea to let several locations do what they do best and have plenty of experience in: Oberstdorf for the nordic events, Garmisch-Partenkirchen for the alpine events, Ruhpolding for biathlon, Königsee for bobsleigh, luge and skeleton and Inzell for speed skating. Sort of a "best of German winter sports host tradition", albeit without the East German venues. And there is still the option to leave Inzell out of the bid and construct at least a temporary speed skating rink in Munich. If that leads to increased travel times for journalists, officials and the possibly relatively few spectators who want to do a lot of "event hopping" during the Games, so be it. Regarding the media, ARD's and ZDF's approach to do most of the live reporting for Beijing from Germany showed that it is not necessary to have large numbers of journalists at each specific venue anyway. And if Thomas Bach's successor as IOC president has to travel farther distances just in order to photo-bomb unassuming athletes in their moment of glory, I will suffer that consequence gladly.
  12. @fatixxx, I am not creating a fuss just because I point out what the actual focus of the "verdict" thread is. If PikyoK wants to give an overall assessment on the Games, the "verdict" thread is the right place for that. But please don't encourage other users to create double posts in threads that are not really fitting for the topics that those users address in their posts.
  13. The topic you have linked is for a general verdict on the entire Beijing 2022 Games, not, as @PikyoK did, for a verdict only on the closing ceremony. Please avoid double posts, thank you.
  14. Thanks for starting the topic, @munichfan. And thanks for the insights, @StefanMUC! You are of course much better informed than me about the current local issues and where to put the different venues. My years of visiting Munich on a regular basis when I still had my boyfriend there sadly belong to the past. But I will try to give some spritual support for a Munich bid, hoping that it will turn from fantasy to reality. I like your suggestion, Stefan, to make Felix Neureuther the head of the bid. While Katarina Witt probably has better international name recognition, Felix would be a symbol for a new start and also a new generation of Olympians having a say in where the next few editions of the Games go. While Munich and Bavaria have plenty of suitable locations for venues and also many existing ones in place already, I asked myself where to put a new Olympic Village. It is obvious that they can't and wouldn't want to re-use the 1972 Olympic Village for all the obvious reasons, but does Munich still have enough space for building a village somewhat in the middle of the city or would they have to resort to the outskirts of Munich? I think, after witnessing first-hand how rare affordable apartments are in super-expensive Munich, building a new Olympic Village would be a pretty good selling factor for a new Munich bid. But then again, there is the strong public opposition in a city that also didn't want to build a third runway for (pre-COVID) congested Munich Airport... So we will see how that goes. They should do without a referendum this time around, IMO.
  15. If you do, count me in. It might be a good opportunity to get more active in this forum again. And Munich has a special place in my heart, it would be fantastic to see the Games return there, this time under happier circumstances.
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