intoronto Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Highly unlikely. They can bid because they will make the shortlist, but you have to think the vote against Istanbul and Madrid signals the IOC body is keen for Europe 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Much like the U.S. a Toronto bid is dead in the water from the start especially if South Africa jumps into either 2024 or 2028. If they do, they likely win and the other SOGs goes to Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I have a feeling that Toronto will bid, and the US will too. Both are excellent candidates and you can't win if you don't try. Anything can happen in a bid race as we saw this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 If the USA bids with a 3rd tier city, then yes, they don't have a good chance. Los Angeles, Dallas, Boston & Philadelphia are not "3rd-tier" cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 They can bid for 2024 with a first tier city. They don't have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Toronto 2024 Olympic bid: does Tokyo’s 2020 win help? Tokyo’s 2020 Olympic win could be good news for Toronto after all. My first thought, having watched and covered the Olympics and Olympic bidding since back in 1988, was that supporters of a Toronto 2024 bid would’ve preferred to get Europe out of the way and were pulling for Madrid or Istanbul, which is in Europe but on the cusp of Asia. But the more I think about it, and that’s a dangerous game when you talk about the International Olympic Committee, the more I think this could play out nicely for North America. The 2022 Winter Olympics appear destined for Europe. Official bids won’t be made for a few months, but so far we’re seeing activity mostly from Europe: Krakow, Munich, Oslo, possibly Stockholm and even Barcelona, which hosted the Summer Games in 1992 but figures it can do winter sports in the city and in the nearby (two hours or so) Pyrenees. I don’t think it’ll happen, but it seems to me that Europe is a shoo-in for 2022, with the only Asian candidate so far being Almaty in Kazakhstan. Asia has the 2018 Winter Games in PyeongChang, Korea and now the 2020 Summer Games in Tokyo. I think Europe is a slam dunk for 2022. Which could mean the Summer Olympics are heading back to North America for the first time since way back in 1996 in Atlanta. Which is far too long for the biggest show on earth to be away from these shores. Of course, the U.S. could always snatch the prize from Toronto again, like they did in 1996. The IOC and the U.S. recently ended their long-time spat over TV revenue sharing, so it would appear Uncle Sam is back sleeping on the IOC bed and no longer napping on the sofa at night. The USOC is mulling over potential bids from the likes of San Diego, Los Angeles (what, not again!), Philadelphia, Dallas and Massachusetts/Boston. There’s also talk of a bid from Rome and perhaps other European cities, and from South Africa yet again. So a lot could happen between now and two years from now, when 2024 bids will have to be taking shape. I suspect the U.S. will be a formidable challenger for the 2024 Games. But I also think the Tokyo vote may actually have helped a North American bid, so that’s probably good news if you’re a Toronto backer. Me? I’m no longer sure. Back when the city bid for the 1996 Games, I thought an Olympic win was just the ticket for pushing governments to fix up the city. Now, the downtown has filled in and the waterfront is coming along and I don’t think the need is quite as dire for the kind of improvements such a big event forces on a city. Then again, the Pan Am Games have helped push the bureaucracy along with things like the new Union Station and the rail link to Pearson, so perhaps an Olympics would actually force the feds, the province and the city and Metrolinx to get together on a firm subway plan. I personally don’t know if the risks are worth it. The security budget these days scares the trousers off of me; often in the billions of dollars with nothing to show for it at the end of the day. Still, it’s an intriguing possibility if we’re going to make some serious headway on summer sports infrastructure in this city. The Pan Am’s in 2015 are a good thing, but even with those games there will still be a need for newer and better running tracks and pools and arenas for summer sports. There was talk of a 2022 Quebec City winter bid but the Canadian Olympic Committee a couple months ago suggested they’re more interested in a Summer Games bid for Toronto in 2024. If there’s any major stumbling block I can see right now, it’s the province. Mayor Rob Ford and city council seem interested, as Ford is always up for a good sporting event. The feds I’m sure could manage some cash. But I don’t know that the Ontario government right now is in the mood either emotionally or in the right frame of mind financially to jump into the five-ring circus. We may be a tad too soon after Vancouver’s 2010 Games for another Canadian bid, I don’t know. Likely nobody needs to worry about it just yet. But over the next six months we should start to see a bit more activity from the lobbyists and from the Canadian Olympic Committee. This ride could get interesting… - See more at: http://jimbyerstravel.com/2013/09/08/toronto-2024-olympic-bid-does-tokyos-2020-win-help/#sthash.0kxGvctG.dpuf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Now that we have back-to-back Asian Games for the first time ever, the Euro-centric IOC could very well have no problems in selecting Europe for both 2022 AND 2024. The IOC knocking out both "European" 2020 candidates yesterday also seems to indicate that they're gonna want Europan Games again soon. Cuz 2024 going somewhere would mean that Europe goes without a Summer Olympics for more than 2 cycles, which is very unlikely.. Especially if Eastern Europe were to get 2022, since Munich & Oslo aren't a given yet that they'll bed. It'd be an uphill climb for North America, for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympikfan Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 All of us can say what ever, but the people of Toronto do not want the games. Let the people have a vote if they want it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 All of us can say what ever, but the people of Toronto do not want the games. Let the people have a vote if they want it LOL where are you getting that information from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympikfan Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I had a late flight out of Toronto and many I spoke to do not want the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Now that we have back-to-back Asian Games for the first time ever, the Euro-centric IOC could very well have no problems in selecting Europe for both 2022 AND 2024. The IOC knocking out both "European" 2020 candidates yesterday also seems to indicate that they're gonna want Europan Games again soon. Cuz 2024 going somewhere would mean that Europe goes without a Summer Olympics for more than 2 cycles, which is very unlikely.. Especially if Eastern Europe were to get 2022, since Munich & Oslo aren't a given yet that they'll bed. It'd be an uphill climb for North America, for sure. Even if Munich did get 2022 - I could still see Paris nailing 2024. In fact, I think there would be a charming synchronicity to a German OWG followed by a French SOG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympikfan Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I think Chicago is a better choice. Better planning over all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 All of us can say what ever, but the people of Toronto do not want the games. Let the people have a vote if they want it You have consistently shown to be a troll. For 2020 there was 90% support to bid in tougher economic times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I had a late flight out of Toronto and many I spoke to do not want the games. A small consensus. Toronto has a metro population of nearly 2.7 million. Get back to me when you survey more than 5 people. *city population Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympikfan Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Must of hit a sore spot with Chicago, Think of Chicago gets 2024 and all you Canadians would have another reason to come over. This is a city thats knows, when one business workers come they over to the city one told me " Chicago is the way Toronto should be" What does Toronto have that Chicago? Two baseball team NFL NHL the Bulls come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Must of hit a sore spot with Chicago, Think of Chicago gets 2024 and all you Canadians would have another reason to come over. This is a city thats knows, when one business workers come they over to the city one told me " Chicago is the way Toronto should be" What does Toronto have that Chicago? Two baseball team NFL NHL the Bulls come on. You do realize that Chicago very emphatically said they're not interested in 2024, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Must of hit a sore spot with Chicago, Think of Chicago gets 2024 and all you Canadians would have another reason to come over. This is a city thats knows, when one business workers come they over to the city one told me " Chicago is the way Toronto should be" What does Toronto have that Chicago? Two baseball team NFL NHL the Bulls come on. Wait, so you aren't even from Toronto? That makes your statement on the last page even more rediculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Must of hit a sore spot with Chicago, Think of Chicago gets 2024 and all you Canadians would have another reason to come over. This is a city thats knows, when one business workers come they over to the city one told me " Chicago is the way Toronto should be" What does Toronto have that Chicago? Two baseball team NFL NHL the Bulls come on. I respect chicago a lot and I think it should bid. But toronto on its outrigt a good city with things Chicago would envy and vice versa. So what if chicago has those teams? I dont think the ioc particularly cares if a city has all those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Even if Munich did get 2022 - I could still see Paris nailing 2024. In fact, I think there would be a charming synchronicity to a German OWG followed by a French SOG. if Thomas Bach will be elected what will he choose? Munich 2022 or Berlin 2024? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I think it depends totally on the Bavarian referendum on the bid later this year - if it passes, I doubt the German NOC or Bach would prevent a Munich 202 bid going ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I had a late flight out of Toronto and many I spoke to do not want the games. I think Chicago is a better choice. Better planning over all Chicagoans don't really want the Games either. The public support for their 2016 bid was lukewarm, at best. And now I'm sure that it's even lower. Must of hit a sore spot with Chicago, Think of Chicago gets 2024 and all you Canadians would have another reason to come over. This is a city thats knows, when one business workers come they over to the city one told me " Chicago is the way Toronto should be" What does Toronto have that Chicago? Two baseball team NFL NHL the Bulls come on. Please don't be trolling. The last thing that we need here is a Chicago/Toronto slinging match. You do realize that Chicago very emphatically said they're not interested in 2024, right? Exactly. Even if Munich did get 2022 - I could still see Paris nailing 2024. In fact, I think there would be a charming synchronicity to a German OWG followed by a French SOG. Or a Munich/Rome combo deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 No discussion bid at economic development committee at September meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktoles Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Hmm, I'm wondering if that means they're really interested at this point in time? if Olivia Chow does decide to run and becomes mayor, I could also see her pulling out altogether of a bid because of the costs. I really do hope they decide to bid. I think Toronto could be an amazing Olympic host, but time is ticking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave199 Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 No discussion bid at economic development committee at September meeting. Is this where we're expecting some kind of talk to arise about the study on 2024? Don't they normally bring these issues up at City hall where its presented to every Councillor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Is this where we're expecting some kind of talk to arise about the study on 2024? Don't they normally bring these issues up at City hall where its presented to every Councillor? Yes this is where it will be revealed. The motion by council was to study a bid and its the EDC that was tasked with studying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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