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All of this is in the past.  Detroit 2024 is poised and ready to bring the games for the first time to the midwest!
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All of this is in the past.  Detroit 2024 is poised and ready to bring the games for the first time to the midwest!

Wouldn't St Louis 1904 count as the midwest?

Please.  St. Louis 1904 was a sideshow.  These will be the first real Olympics in the midwest. :hmm:

Was that a good save?

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All of this is in the past.  Detroit 2024 is poised and ready to bring the games for the first time to the midwest!

Wouldn't St Louis 1904 count as the midwest?

Please.  St. Louis 1904 was a sideshow.  These will be the first real Olympics in the midwest. :hmm:

Was that a good save?

Well if Detroit 2024 wants to beat those other cool contenders (like Oslo 2024 a-hem) it better do something like include midget wrestling, Boer War reconstructions and Zulu runners as per St Louis  :P

oslo2024.jpg

Hmmm, smoke stacks versus pristine Scandinavian forests and fjordland...I know where Jacques and his buddies wanna go  :laughlong:

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Well if Detroit 2024 wants to beat those other cool contenders (like Oslo 2024 a-hem) it better do something like include midget wrestling, Boer War reconstructions and Zulu runners as per St Louis  :P

oslo2024.jpg

Hmmm, smoke stacks versus pristine Scandinavian forests and fjordland...I know where Jacques and his buddies wanna go  :laughlong:

Please.  The symbolism of the smokestacks will become evident when Detroit releases it's mini bid book and Jacques will be  begging to bring the Games to the birthplace of Avery Brundage! :unclesam:

And midget wrestling is soooooo 1904.  Dwarf tossing is where it's at now!  :wwww:

Meanwhile what is with that Oslo 2024 logo?  Looks like that ship is leaky and about to go down!

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@LA84  :  Please. Compare the candidates for 2012 with Detroit. Among them you see five cities having more charm and fame than Detroit has. Ask a foreigner to name a few cities in the USA ... except those who love cars won't name Detroit.

Moreover, the USA is the nation with the highest number of hosted Olympics. Can't the Americans understand that there are some others to stand in the spotlight of the rings ? We've just had Salt-Lake-City and Atlanta is only 9 years ago. I think that's one of the main reasons NYC didn't get the votes. And now you are concerned about poor Detroit ??? ?

Maybe that Detroit was different during the 50ies and 60ies from what one hears today, OK. But then you had Squaw Valley 1960 and then came Lake Placid in 1980, followed by Los Angeles 1984 ... so what ?

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@LA84  :  Please. Compare the candidates for 2012 with Detroit. Among them you see five cities having more charm and fame than Detroit has. Ask a foreigner to name a few cities in the USA ... except those who love cars won't name Detroit.

Moreover, the USA is the nation with the highest number of hosted Olympics. Can't the Americans understand that there are some others to stand in the spotlight of the rings ? We've just had Salt-Lake-City and Atlanta is only 9 years ago. I think that's one of the main reasons NYC didn't get the votes. And now you are concerned about poor Detroit ??? ?

Maybe that Detroit was different during the 50ies and 60ies from what one hears today, OK. But then you had Squaw Valley 1960 and then came Lake Placid in 1980, followed by Los Angeles 1984 ... so what ?

:rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

O.K. - I will let this one slide because you are a newbie.  But if you will look in the Gamesbids Events and meetings section you will see that we are having a contest here on Games bids to organize an Olympics for 2024 and I chose Detroit as my host city.

A much sexier bid than Oslo or Cape Town I would say    :;):

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Well if Detroit 2024 wants to beat those other cool contenders (like Oslo 2024 a-hem) it better do something like include midget wrestling, Boer War reconstructions and Zulu runners as per St Louis  :P

oslo2024.jpg

Hmmm, smoke stacks versus pristine Scandinavian forests and fjordland...I know where Jacques and his buddies wanna go  :laughlong:

Please.  The symbolism of the smokestacks will become evident when Detroit releases it's mini bid book and Jacques will be  begging to bring the Games to the birthplace of Avery Brundage! :unclesam:

And midget wrestling is soooooo 1904.  Dwarf tossing is where it's at now!  :wwww:

Meanwhile what is with that Oslo 2024 logo?  Looks like that ship is leaky and about to go down!

Well considering all the abandoned factories and now redundant GM workers, I bet Detroit can find some run down places and folks to help the 2024 bid  :P

And don't you worry bout the Oslo 2024 logo LA84...it's bid substance, not pretty pics that win games  :laughlong:

PS: I'm willing to swap votes with Detroit for 2024 so long as we can keep the French out  :idea:

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PS: I'm willing to swap votes with Detroit for 2024 so long as we can keep the French out  :idea:

I like the way you think!  :idea:

Yes we will have to explore that possibility after the first round.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Montreal - 8

Calgary - 3

Banff - 1

Vancouver - 2

Toronto - 2

Quebec City - 1

Canada has bid 17 times and only won three Olympics, not a high precentage, and Montreal bid 7 unsuccessful times before winning in 1976 so Detroit is not alone with a lot of wasted bids

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Montreal - 8

Calgary - 3

Banff - 1

Vancouver - 2

Toronto - 2

Quebec City - 1

Canada has bid 17 times and only won three Olympics, not a high precentage, and Montreal bid 7 unsuccessful times before winning in 1976 so Detroit is not alone with a lot of wasted bids

In Montreal's previous attempts, was it the COC's official candidate?

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Montreal made it to seven IOC final voting sessions and lost all seven, Baron check the voting records that gamesbids offers, it will show how many times Montreal has bid, up until like the 60's, Montreal was the only city to ever bid for an Olympic games
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Montreal - 8

Calgary - 3

Banff - 1

Vancouver - 2

Toronto - 2

Quebec City - 1

Canada has bid 17 times and only won three Olympics, not a high precentage, and Montreal bid 7 unsuccessful times before winning in 1976 so Detroit is not alone with a lot of wasted bids

Don't worry, I'm sure Turkey will overtake Canada soon, in terms of failed olympic bids.

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<font color='#000000'>It's NOT all blighted.  

- There is the Silverdome where the FIRST indoor matches of a World Cup were staged at WC-USA '94.  

- There is Wayne State University which has a fine medical center.  

- I think they had the Republican Convention there in the 2nd Reagan term.  (Go check - I'm too lazy.)  

- There is Grosse Pointe which is the Beverly Hills of Detroit where all the Fords and the rich founding families of GM and Chrysler live(d).</font>

Ford Field, Comerica Park, a nice riverfront, Belle Isle Park (Bigger the NYC central park), After NYC Detroit has the second most theatre seats east of the Mississippi river, Detroit Zoo, Detroit has the largest in the nation of pre-depression era skyscrapers.

and here is more about the neighborhoods of Detroit:

http://www.modeldmedia.com/neighborhoods/Default.aspx

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Ford Field, Comerica Park, a nice riverfront, Belle Isle Park (Bigger the NYC central park), After NYC Detroit has the second most theatre seats east of the Mississippi river, Detroit Zoo, Detroit has the largest in the nation of pre-depression era skyscrapers.

and here is more about the neighborhoods of Detroit:

http://www.modeldmedia.com/neighborhoods/Default.aspx

I forgot too add, We have Three Casinos downtown and south of the boarder in Canada (Detroit is the only city in America to go south to cross the Canadian boarder) Caesars Windsor Casino.

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<font color='#000000'>I have seen some of their plans (the ones for the 60s); and they were quite impressive (I mean people here who are bowled over by snazzy perspectives, would positively have an orgasm w/ some of the Detroit Olympic Park plans).  

A Detroit bid never advanced because:

1.  I don't think the bid could guarantee US gov't funds -- w/o which the Euro-centric old school IOC wouldn't touch it.

2.  Avery Brundage never give it a leg up either;

3.  Detroit isn't exactly even a poor man's San Francisco.</font>

In other Words Detroit did not offer bribes or College educations to the children of IOC members which is totally Euro Centric in the old days.

Detroit basically gave up as TV was becoming more important for revenues of the IOC and eventually hit full stride in the 1980's with LA 84 starting it .

Lets face it Atlanta 1996 was only the second time the United States won a bid for the Summer games despite a long trail of trying with out success . I don't Know if Chicago 1908 could be actually a bid win considering we have no records of a competition . The centennial addition was certainly the first real bid win for the the US.

Jim jones

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If Detroit were to host a Summer Olympics in the far future, this would be the venue plan:

Ceremonies: New Belle Isle Stadium - 70,000

Archery: new venue

Diving: new venue

Swimming: new venue

Synchronised Swimming: new venue

Water Polo: new venue

Athletics: New Belle Isle Stadium - 70,000

Badminton: State Fair Coliseum - 5,600

Basketball: New Detroit Arena - 22,000, Detroit Field - 75,000

Boxing: Calihan Hall - 8,295

Canoe/Kayak Sprint: new venue

Canoe/Kayak Slalom: new venue

BMX: new venue

Mountain Biking: new venue

Road Cycling: new venue

Track Cycling: new venue

Equestrian: new venue

Fencing: New Detroit Convention Centre

Field Hockey: new venue

Football: Michigan Stadium - 109,901, Spartan Stadium, Lansing - 75,005

Golf: undetermined venue

Artistic Gymnastics: Detroit Field - 75,000

Rhythmic Gymnastics: New Detroit Arena - 22,000

Trampolining: Detroit Field - 75,000

Handball: The Palace of Auburn Hills - 22,076

Judo: Eastern Michigan University Convocation Centre - 8,824

Modern Pentathlon: Eastern Michigan University

Rowing: new venue

Rugby 7s: Rynearson Stadium - 30,200

Sailing: Lake St. Clair

Shooting: new venue

Table Tennis: State Fair Coliseum - 5,600

Taekwondo: Eastern Michigan University Convocation Centre - 8,824

Tennis: new venue

Triathlon: new venue

Beach Volleyball: new venue

Indoor Volleyball: Crisler Arena - 13,751

Weightlifting: New Detroit Convention Centre

Wrestling: New Detroit Convention Centre

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