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  1. Roughly 1 year ago there was talk that New Delhi was planning to build a new athletics stadium for the 2010 commonwealth games. However, there's been no further mention of that since, so they probably won't be building it. India says it wants to bid for the 2020 olympics with New Delhi. If this is the case, then they should not build a new stadium for the 2010 CG's, but instead offer a brand-new athletics stadium to the IOC, as part of their 2020 summer bid.
  2. I don't blame them. After hosting the 2010 World Cup it would be a step down for the country to host a commonwealth games. Cape Town should bid for the 2020 summer olympics.
  3. That's looking at it from a very positive perspective. The danger is that South Africa can't be ruled out that easily, if they bid for the olympics in 2016/20 are they don't win, then they could once again be interested in the CG's. In terms of South Africa being intersted in other events, don't forget the Rugby world cup in 2015, they might be in with a chance for that, if Japan (no longer interested after the 2011 saga) and England (concentrating on a 2018 WC bid) are not interested. The second danger is that New Zealand, rather than being distracted from bidding for the CG's again/ concentrating on other tournaments/ not wanting to splash out too much cash, might actually feel that post- 2011 rugby world cup, their chances of winning a CG bid are much better, due to the improvement in infrastructure, and stadiums that the RWC has brought to the country.
  4. I feel sorry for Adelaide, because in theory Melbourne has pinched 2 events from the city. Firstly, the F1 Grand prix was moved, and then melbourne was picked as Australia's 2006 CG candidate. Of course, with Wellington dropping out Adeliade would have hosted the 2006 CGs, as it would have been the only bid.
  5. Sadly, Adelaide faces huge obstacles in getting the CG. They've wanted them for a long time, but their chances don't look too good for the near future. Firstly, there's the domestic competition, Perth and Canberra, both having more world status than Adelaide. Australia putting forward it's capital city, or no.4 city (perth) would stand better chance of bringing games back to the country. Secondly, even if Adelaide is the Australian candidate in 2022 etc, the international competition will be too strong- -Wellington/ Auckland/ Christchurch (NZ not having hosted since 1990) - Glasgow (Scotland not hosted since 1986, also Manchester less recent than melbourne 2006) - Cardiff (Wales not hosted since 1958) - Cape Town/ Johannesburg/ Durban (S.Africa never hosted, even if Abuja gets 2014, it's difficult to justify a 5th Australian Cg's when S.Africa has never hosted, also these 3 cities have more world status than Adelaide. Even Melbourne wouldn't won 2006, if faced up against a bid from Cape Town) - Halifax, Hamilton, Winnipeg, Ottawa- Canada not hosted since 1994, also Hamilton birth place of CG's in 1930, and rejected for 2010. - Singapore- world financial centre, major world status
  6. It already is the most famous stadium in the world, Also, structures/ monuments don't have to exist/ be complete for them to be famous icons. New York's most famous landmark is the twin towers of the world trade center- even though they no longer exist. Well, I could think of others: the Astrodome, Yankee Stadium, the LA Memorial Coliseum, Montreal's (Unfinished) Doughnut (of 1976), Estadio Azteca of Mexico City, the Maracana Stadium in Rio, a few others. I think these are equally famous. I think Wembley is only famous among you Brits. I certainly don't hold it up there among my top 6 'legendary' stadia. Re New York icons: yes, the WTC is now 'legendary' because it is part of history; but other EQUALLY great NYC icons are certainly (1) Lady Liberty herself; (2) the EMpire State Bldg; (3) the Chrysler Bldg; (4) the UN Headquarters Wembley is not just famous amongst British people, it is the most famous football stadium in the world. Even people who do not know much about football/ soccer will probably heard of Wembley. Similary people who do not know much about baseball will have heard of New York's Yankee stadium. From your list of stadia, I agree that Yankee Stadium and the Macarena have near/ equal fame to Wembley, but the others most definetly are not a match and the Astrodome and Estadio Azteca most certainly are not world famous. The reason why Wembley dosen't make your top 6 is because you come from a country where football is not a mainstream sport. Infact Americans call it "soccer" which is not even it's proper name. The proper name is football, or Fussball (in German). Similarly, the British call baseball "rounders," because the UK is a country where baseball is not a mainstream sport.
  7. I think its also a sign of where stadiums are going in general. The old idea of the big publically owned multi purpose stadium seems to be dieing and instead were getting mutiple stadiums designed and owned by individual clubs or sports federations. I think it's great and refreshing how in the UK, each sport has it's own special stadium, in the majority of cities (not just London). Manchester for example has 2 football stadiums for individual peremier league teams, not to mention separate cricket and rugby grounds. I'm not in favour of the situation in cities like Paris and Melbourne, where the one stadium host everything. I find this quite dull...... In Paris, St.Denis hosts everything, whether it be athletics, rugby or football. A lot of people like this type of situation, but I much rather prefer having football games at Wembley, Rubgy at twickenham and athletics at a brand new specially built athletics stadium in 2012. The Telstra dome (Melbourne) is only a very recent addition (2003), but even still 2006 commonwealth games are in essence going to be held in a cricket ground, rather than a specially build athletics stadium.
  8. It already is the most famous stadium in the world, even though it's still under construction. Wembley is lot about brand name as well- that's why when Birmingham put forward a counter bid for the national stadium, they too said they'd call it Wembley. Also, structures/ monuments don't have to exist/ be complete for them to be famous icons. New York's most famous landmark is the twin towers of the world trade center- even though they no longer exist.
  9. I'm actually really glad that Wembley wasn't designed to hold a permanent athletics track, and that a brand new purpose built stadium had to be designed for 2012. The city will therefore have 3 stadiums with a capacity 80,000 or above: Wembley- 90,000 Twickenham- 82,000 Olympic Stadium- 80,000 That is something to feel proud of.
  10. Well we know that 2012 is definetly not going to a new country/ continent, and 2016 is unlikelt to do so either- it will most probably be a USA vs. Canada showdown. 2020/ 2024 is the earliest Africa can get the summer olympics. Cape Town would be a good bid, coming third in the 2004 race. Other African bids maybe another Cairo bid, Abuja or Lagos and Nairobi. The important thing is that an African bid needs to bad the Asian and Latin American votes as well as the nearly guaranteed African ones (unless someone in Germany, Italy or australia has university places up for offer!). Beijing was counting on african support, during its 2 bids.
  11. I mean, at the moment, in terms of dimensions, would it be able to fit a running track inside it, or would a great deal of renovating be needed for it to be able to host an event like the IAAF World Athletics championships??
  12. Just wondering, will the 2000 Olympic stadium/ Telstra stadium ever be able to house an athletics track again?
  13. Well I know that Atlanta's 1996 stadium is now a baseball ground- Turner field, home to the Atlanta braves. Sydney's 2000 stadium is now the telstra stadium.
  14. The best hope for the African continent hosting a SOG would be Cape Town and Cairo. Both cities have failed bids behind them, in 2004 and 2008, respectively, so would surely have improved any future bid considerably, and be taken much more seriously by the IOC 2nd/3rd time round. But maybe we will see a commonwealth games in South Africa, before an olympics. But certainly by at least 2020/4, the IOC should give South America/ Africa a SOG. I think Rio (after the 2007 Pan-American games) would be favoured over Cape Town. So maybe we will see a Rio SOG followed by a Cape Town games.
  15. More Montreal 1976 Olympic stadium photos:
  16. Montreal 1976 was tarnished by construction problems, but regardless of this, the city's 76 olympic stadium is one of my personal favourites
  17. Just wondering, has Twickenham ever staged a football match? It has a good capacity for international fixtures (72,500- 75,000). Wembley and Old Trafford have staged rugby matches.......
  18. I think NZ at the moment would not be a feasible place for the summer or winter games (someone earlier saying how the NZ government stated that a SOG would bankrupt the country?). But in 2036, 40, 44, when an Australian city is bidding (with a good chance of success), by that time NZ will probably be much more developed, and be able to put in a strong bid from Auckland, to host a SOG. So far as the WOG are concerned, again in the future (20 years) it is a possibility.
  19. not by the IOC President I reckon... That's quite interesting. What makes you thinks that?
  20. People have mentioned Christchurch being suitable to host a winter olympics. I'm sure a bid for the WOG's to be hosted in the southern hemisphere would be well supported.
  21. I totally agree, and i think that in the future, say 2036/40/44 if Auckland were up against an Australian city, the majority of people would favour the New Zealand bid. Australia has hosted twice. New Zealand deserves a chance now. By 2030 etc, Auckland would have improved/ expanded/ grown in size/ prosperity, and should be able to host an olympic games no problems.
  22. Again, I think South Africa has the best chance of winning any Olympic bid. Probably Cape Town, as it bid for the 2004 games, and was overlooked. Also it now has the experience of prpearing and organising an olympic bid, which the majority of other african cities don't have. I would have liked to see Kenya place an olympic bid (probably with Nairobi), but I think it's chances have been strongly undermined by the recent terror attacks in Kenya.
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