Mexico 2036

[FYI]

^ 'We shall see'. "It's gonna be tough" for them for 2036. 

[SportLightning]

15 minutes ago, FYI said:

^ 'We shall see'. "It's gonna be tough" for them for 2036. 

Yes, it will.

 

[FYI]

On 8/30/2022 at 1:53 AM, baron-pierreIV said:

Uhmmm . . . 

2028 - North America

2032 - Oceania

2036 - surely the SOGs cannot return to North America again.  It will be 12 years since Paris 2024, so the earliest Mexico can hope for realistically is 2040.  

Other than (every third Summer Games goes to) Europe, I can't see any other continent for 2036. The IOC views North & South America as one (as the 'Americas'), so that leaves them out after 2028 (not to mention, there's very few suitable countries there to begin with). Asia will still be too soon after 2018, 2020ne & 2022 (not to mention, globally nearby 2032 - Australia). Africa is still very, very iffy, unfortunately. So that doesn't leave much room for anyone else. Unless no suitable candidate from Europe emerges for 2036, it's theirs to lose.

[AustralianFan]

On 8/26/2022 at 5:16 AM, AustralianFan said:

Mexico City, Guadalajara and Monterrey 2036

“Mexico is the latest country to express interest in staging the 2036 Olympic Games and the Mexican Olympic Committee (MOC) has begun discussions with the International Olympic Committee (IOC) over the feasibility of a bid.”

“A host city has not been defined but it is thought that Mexico City, Guadalajara and Monterrey will be frontrunners as they have are claimed to have the capacity to organise the event.”

“The trio are also Mexico's host cities for the 2026 FIFA World Cup.”

 

 

On 6/21/2022 at 2:24 AM, FYI said:

^Yeah, but hey. We can still add it to the list of 'media reports' in that "crowded field of interested parties"! 

Yep.

[AustralianFan]

“The Mexican Olympic Committee (MOC) is officially interested in bidding for the 2036 Summer Olympics.”

“MOC president María José Alcalá participated in a video call with the International Olympic Committee (IOC) on Tuesday, presumably meeting with the Future Host Commission.”

“Mexico last hosted the Olympics in 1968 in Mexico City, becoming the first Latin American country to do so. Guadalajara and Monterrey are also expected to be candidates for host cities this time around. The three cities are sharing hosting responsibilities for the 2026 FIFA World Cup. A similar system at the 2036 Olympics could maximize the use of existing sites. “

 

[AustralianFan]

“It is very important to have had this meeting because we have to do an analysis not only in sporting and structural matters, but also with geopolitical issues: which cities are developing, which ones could have infrastructure, which ones could be alternate venues,” MOC President María José Alcalá told Milenio according to reports. “We have to build all these details. These doubts will be dispelled by the IOC in the area of the venues, but it is a long road, it is not overnight.”

 

 

[AustralianFan]

Mexico 2036 - believed to be in the 10

IOC CONFIRMATION TODAY   (New Norm Host Selection Process):

10 COUNTRIES CONFIRMED TO BE IN CONTINUOUS DIALOGUE WITH THE INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE FOR THE 2036 SUMMER GAMES

Mexico is believed to be one of the ten countries.

This report came in today ITG:

 

[AustralianFan]

“A host city has not been defined but it is thought that Mexico City, Guadalajara and Monterrey will be frontrunners as they have are claimed to have the capacity to organise the event.”

“The trio are also Mexico’s host cities for the 2026 FIFA World Cup.”

“It is very important to have had this meeting because we have to do an analysis not only in sporting and structural matters, but also with geopolitical issues: which cities are developing, which ones could have infrastructure, which ones could be alternate venues,” MOC President María José Alcalá told Milenio.”

 

[AustralianFan]

“Mexico expressed its interest in staging the 2036 Olympic Games in August and the Mexican Olympic Committee (MOC) began discussions with the IOC over the feasibility of a bid.”

“A host city has not been defined but it is thought that Mexico City, Guadalajara and Monterrey are frontrunners as they are also Mexico's host cities for the 2026 FIFA World Cup.“

"We are the only country that will host three FIFA World Cups, we are a vigorous country with one of the best economies in the world."

“Mexico City hosted the Summer Olympics in 1968.”

“Two years later it staged the FIFA World Cup, and repeated that hosting in 1986.”

“In 2026 it is due to jointly host the World Cup with Canada and the United States.”

 

[iceman530]

Given the field they got at least a shout id say.  Probably on equal footing with Istanbul, maybe slightly below

[AustralianFan]

From ITG:

Centro Aquatico in Gaudalajara, Mexico, and perhaps a 2036 Olympic venue (?), being temporarily converted this week for the World Taekwondo Championships:

 

[AustralianFan]

"When it comes to the development of the process, the first step was made by the Mexican Olympic Committee and they are working to fulfil all the requirements together with the Government," said Guevara.

"But it's important to say that this administration will end in 2024 so we have only two more years to prepare that.

"I can say that as an athlete it is a dream to have an Olympic Games in your home like hosting this World Championships so it would be really good having the Olympics in Mexico."

 

[stryker]

I think after the debacle that was Rio in 2016, the last thing the IOC wants is to return the Olympics to a third world Latin American country. Any Mexico bid would be swept aside by a credible European bid (London, Germany, Spain).

[TorchbearerSydney]

For the IOC it is SUPER safe only these days- France, Italy, US, AUS...wooing US, CAN and Japan.....an in the future probably Germany, Scandinavia etc....

It is good corporate risk management, but I think a little bit sad for those who like new frontiers .....

 

[FYI]

Careful there. Otherwise your G7 bias could be pointed out! 

[AustralianFan]

Congratulations and well done Mexico.

 

[stryker]

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1135153/mexico-intent-hosting-2036-2040-olympics

So Mexico reiterates they want to host either the 2036 or 2040 Olympics. Nice PR op with Bach here. Does anyone really think a country which does not even have control over all its territory (drug cartels) and is in dire financial straits is somehow going to have the cash to pull this off? The IOC already went down this road with Rio and Brazil was in far better shape economically when they bid for 2016. Mexico is nowhere near that. The security costs alone would be enough to make this one of the most expensive Olympics in history.

[AustralianFan]

“Yesterday, Mexico officially announced plans to bid for the 2036 or 2040 Olympic and Paralympic Games during a meeting with International Olympic Committee (IOC) President Thomas Bach.”

“A letter outlining the country's plans was given to Bach during a meeting with COM President Mary José Alcalá and Secretary of Foreign Affairs of Mexico Marcelo Ebrard, who visited the IOC's headquarters in Lausanne.”

 

[baron-pierreIV]

17 hours ago, stryker said:

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1135153/mexico-intent-hosting-2036-2040-olympics

So Mexico reiterates they want to host either the 2036 or 2040 Olympics. Nice PR op with Bach here. Does anyone really think a country which does not even have control over all its territory (drug cartels) and is in dire financial straits is somehow going to have the cash to pull this off? The IOC already went down this road with Rio and Brazil was in far better shape economically when they bid for 2016. Mexico is nowhere near that. The security costs alone would be enough to make this one of the most expensive Olympics in history.

UHmmm . . .  they were the first "3rd world country" to host a SOG that was well -organized.  

In 3 years' time, they will be hosting their 3rd World Cup (or their early 3rd of it) -- making them the ONLY country on earth to do so. 

1955, 1975, 2011 -- Hosted the Pan American Games (the only country to host a 2-continent regional Games 3x) 
1968 - one Summer Olympics 
1970, 1986, 2026 - FIFA Men's World Cup 

They are the 16th largest economy in the world today.    So, what are you talking about?  

[stryker]

2 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

UHmmm . . .  they were the first "3rd world country" to host a SOG that was well -organized.  

In 3 years' time, they will be hosting their 3rd World Cup (or their early 3rd of it) -- making them the ONLY country on earth to do so. 

1955, 1975, 2011 -- Hosted the Pan American Games (the only country to host a 2-continent regional Games 3x) 
1968 - one Summer Olympics 
1970, 1986, 2026 - FIFA Men's World Cup 

They are the 16th largest economy in the world today.    So, what are you talking about?  

1968 was a long time ago. The Olympics have grown in size and budget since then. 16th largest economy in the world? I think Brazil was top 20 as well when they hosted? We saw happened with Rio. As for the Pan Ams, they are ideal for a country like Mexico (and two of those editions were also a long time ago and the Guadalajara edition in 2011 was much smaller compared to more recent Pan Ams like Toronto). I think of them as more of a junior Olympics, the small prize when you are not financially capable or have the infrastructure to compete for the big one. Comparisons with the FIFA World Cup are completely overblown when it comes to hosting an Olympics. While it helps, it's by no means an automatic that a country can suddenly handle the logistical challenge of organizing and hosting a modern day SOGs. If it was, South Africa would have hosted by now. As for the 2026 WC, what are they getting, less than ten games? I'd hardly call that a qualification for being able to host a SOGs. 

Mexico is not a safe-host country, especially if the likes of London, a German bid, or Spanish bid is in the mix for 2036 or 2040. The events of the Rio debacle are likely too fresh in the minds of the IOC to go to any third world country, let alone anywhere in Latin America.

[baron-pierreIV]

/\/\ Your anti-México bias is showing, considering what part of Texas you come from.  

Oh, and I forgot  TWO Miss Universe pageants for Mexico.  Remember Seoul 1988 sprang from Seoul hosting the 1980 Miss Universe pageant.  

[stryker]

8 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

/\/\ Your anti-México bias is showing, considering what part of Texas you come from.  

Oh, and I forgot  TWO Miss Universe pageants for Mexico.  Remember Seoul 1988 sprang from Seoul hosting the 1980 Miss Universe pageant.  

Actually come to think of it, you are absolutely right in that Mexico could host this thing. They can get the money from notorious drug lords El Chapo and Guzman. They've got a lot of cash. They aren't gonna be around to spend it. And it's better than letting it fall into the hands of corrupt Federales. Combined there's enough cash to fix up Mexico City's venues from 1968 and build a few new ones. Take that drug money and put it to some good use. Brilliant idea

[baron-pierreIV]

4 hours ago, stryker said:

Actually come to think of it, you are absolutely right in that Mexico could host this thing. They can get the money from notorious drug lords El Chapo and Guzman. They've got a lot of cash. They aren't gonna be around to spend it. And it's better than letting it fall into the hands of corrupt Federales. Combined there's enough cash to fix up Mexico City's venues from 1968 and build a few new ones. Take that drug money and put it to some good use. Brilliant idea

Uhmmm , , ,  Italy has staged or in 3 years' time staged 1 Summer Games (smaller than Mexico 1968) and 3 Winter Games -- yet the Mafia or the Cosa Nostra (as far as the outside world knows) did NOT interfere or mess up the Games.  Are the cartels any different? 

Also, you kept saying that Mexico's previous hostings were small -- well, so are all the others  . . . LA 1932 was tiny compared to LA 1984, Atlanta 1996 and LA 2028!  Melbourne 1956 was held WITHOUT Equestrian events, yet Sydney 2000 was a smashing success; and we have Brisbane 2032 coming up.  So, if London after WW2 barely managed to stage the 1948 Games; how did London 2012 happen?  Was that a "fake" event staged only in the studio??   

[FYI]

10 minutes ago, baron-pierreIV said:

Was that a "fake" event staged only in the studio??   

Right behind the Apollo moon landing! 

[Roger87]

On 3/24/2023 at 1:29 PM, stryker said:

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1135153/mexico-intent-hosting-2036-2040-olympics

So Mexico reiterates they want to host either the 2036 or 2040 Olympics. Nice PR op with Bach here. Does anyone really think a country which does not even have control over all its territory (drug cartels) and is in dire financial straits is somehow going to have the cash to pull this off? The IOC already went down this road with Rio and Brazil was in far better shape economically when they bid for 2016. Mexico is nowhere near that. The security costs alone would be enough to make this one of the most expensive Olympics in history.

Welcome back again... Oh, where do I start with this false attempt of US exceptionalism and false notice.

Does anyone really think a country which does not even have control over all its territory (drug cartels)

Well, the cities which are proposed by hosting these events are actually some of the safest ones (Sans Tijuana, but that's a different matter). Even in the cases of Monterrey and Mexico City, the crime is actually lower comparing some cities in the USA like St. Louis, Baltimore or Chicago in matters like theft, fire killings or drug consumption. 

is in dire financial straits

Oh right, Mexico is in dire financial strait, that's why more US ex pats are coming here in Mexico to living and working. And that's not counting how in recent years the number of economic immigrants had been growing. Right now, Mexico City and Guadalajara are becoming hubs of foreign population,

Or how about per reports of the IFM (no less) Mexico is having some of the quickiest recoveries of the pandemic. Mexico is passing economies like Spain or Australia

And the Mexican Peso is actually one of the strongest currencies not just in Latin America but the world, with a constant assessment over the US dollar in recent months.

Mexico is nowhere near that.

Let me think you believe Mexico is like Hollywood painted as a dry desert with sepia colour and small towns, right?

 

This is Mexico City

This is Guadalajara

And this is Monterrey

 

In case, Monterrey and Guadalajara will be used for the upcoming World Cup, and their qualification for modernity, technology, viability and all the FIFA standards were actually high, even higher than a tier of the US stadiums. For Mexico City, this is Estadio Universitario (The Olympic Stadium). It was built in 1956. Now, it's declared cultural patrimony and on top of that, it was rewarded as one of the most surprising buildings advanced on its time. 

Also, in case...

-Mexico City's economy is closer to countries like Greece and Peru.

-Guadalajara has been named as one of the best cities to live in ALL North America by some studies and public polls. And the city has become the technology and cultural hub per excellence (The majority of the images related to Mexico like tequila, charros and mariachi came here). 

-Monterrey has been attracting international enterprises to become the economic engine.

-Mexico City's public transport, even with recent problems, is still recognized for its length, cheap prize and efficacy, now with an integrated system with metro and BRTs. Also Guadalajara and Monterrey had expanded their own. Right now both are planning their own 5 Line of train.