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Munich Germany - Innsbruck 2030 Bid seems difficult because it's 2 countries... Germany or Austria are able to host WoG without anyone else. But maybe we could see this kind of bid between two countries in the futur. I imagine Geneva/Chamonix/Annecy but impossible. .

We could see another European bid, like PC 2018 and Beijing 2022.

I'm not sure you need a big city, a middle size city could be ok to host WoG. You need a stadium to host opening/closing ceremonies, it could be a temporary one like in Salt Lake, Albertville etc. To host speed skating you need an athletics track who can be transform in a temporary ice track. For Ice Hockey, Figure Skating and Short track you need something more durable but for a middle size city isn't a problem, but I think it's the most important expense item with olympic village (Capacity around 2800 Athletes). Where I live the city grow up about 2000 people each year since 20 years, it's an opportunity to build an Olympic Village for this kind of city. Usually Alpin cities are attractives and grow up since the 60's/70's. The other venues could be host in ski resorts close to the host city like in Albertville/Lillehammer etc. You have a lot of possibilities in Europe or North America with this kind of configuration. To host tourists/athletes isn't a problem too, each winter middle size cities in Alps welcome millions of tourists each year, they have accommodations. I don't understand why IOC say not every time for this kind of Bids, they are able to host WoG. Each Alpin/Nordic countries have around 2 or 5 middle size cities able to host WoG. For exemple France has Annecy, Chambery, Albertville, Grenoble, Gap able to host WoG and more if you do like Milano/Cortina, you could add Lyon, Nice and Toulouse. It's the same in Switzerland (Sion, Bern, Lucern etc.), Austria, Germany, Norway etc. The reason why you don't have this kind of Host cities is because IOC don't want and I don't know why.

Annecy won't bid again, the city is overcrowed because there are already too much tourists. Moreover the city has some problems with air pollution. Citizen don't want WoG and no more tourists, it's an import issue for citizen since some years. It will be very difficult to see WoG in France in the futur, there is a very strong opposition about WoG in the Alps and about this kind of business. With the news IOC rules to Bid, maybe we could se a bid from Lyon... But I'm not optimist about. WoG lost a lot in public opinion with Sotchi, Peyongchang and now Beijing... It's too late to change the minds about WoG in France. I'm very surprise about public support for Milano/Cortina. I think is a bad choice for WoG, with this kind of bid you lost the Alpin village atmosphere whom was a strength in the past for Alpin WoG. Milan isn't an Alpin or Winter city...

I like, Japan is a great place to host WoG. I have nothing against Asia, only against bullshit bid like PC or Beijing for WoG.

Since de beginning I said Korean paid bribes to host WoG... Now it's official. WoG in Asia are a big mistake and now it will be Beijing... It's stupid to go there.

For sure they cheated to host WoG, PC 2018 were the worst WoG in the history. Munich and Annecy had better bids. But IOC is corrupted.

Turin 2006 was good but I think if WoG comeback in Europe it will be better in a smaller city than Turin and closer to the mountains. WoG need to back to a village atmosphere and to be more authentic, like Lillehammer, Albertville, Innsbruck etc.

I'm agree with you too, but what's happen if like for 2022 all the European or even North American bids give up ? We could have the same story.

If Sapporo bids, Japan will probably win. Swiss like every time will say no to the referendum Public opinion and politic will be against for Lillehammer, like for Austria. Stockholm isn't a reasonable bid and Swedish opinion will be against like in Norway Calgary may be the only opponent to Sapporo... But they need politic approval... 2026 won't be in Europe.

PC 2018 cost 14 billions instead of 6,4 billions, one more time Olympic Games are a fail about this point, one more time local population will pay, one more time IOC don't care... It's the reason why public opinion is against WoG in Europa. It will be the same for Beijing, the WoG as the IOC wants aren't profitable.

I read newspapers, I watch news. PC spent twice as much as expected for WoG. The legacy is already a failure.

If IOC stay in Asia, it's the end of WoG and the Beginning of Winter Asian Games.

PC 2018 WoG has been well organized by Korea, I had a good surprise with Freestyle tracks that were good, with a good shaping. But it wasn't real WoG like we can expect : There were many problems like the lack of popular fervor and supporters, many seats in outside competitions were empty ,It was sad games without emotions. Usually WoG are a big party, not this time, we didn't see crazy supporters excepted North Korean Cheerleaders. In Biathlon, Nordic Ski, Alpin Ski and even in Freestyle ski the atmosphere was flavorless...Many Athletes criticized this point. I don't understand why IOC chose went to Korea... New Horizon was more an advertising slogan than a reality, there aren't New horizon for winter sports in Korea. This games were too artificial, we lost the village or Alpin atmosphere, PC doesn't have real mountains or real ski resorts, the main part of venues has been build only for this WoG and they will never be used in the future. Korea will have many White Elephant in the poorest Korean region... For local population it will be a very bad legacy. But IOC is happy, their members don't care about local population and the legacy. Moreover the environment was another big issue for PC : they destroyed a national forest for a boring Alpin track, this track was too easy and very far from the international standard. Moreover Korean used 98% of fake snow, in 2018 it's a real shame for IOC to accept this kind of bid without respect for environment, with the lack of water and the global warming, it's a really bad signal for the young generation and the futur bids... This is not going to improve the image that Europeans have about WoG. Korea had to pay bribes to host this WoG, it was another scandal... Like Russia and many other host before... But it's not reason to accept this point. With Sotchi, PC and Beijing, I thing we lost definitively the original spirit of WoG, and it's the main reason why IOC won't have bids for 2026 from Europe, public opinion is sick with this king of WoG, 100% artificial without respect for Athletes, environment or traditional winter countries. I think it's the moment for another organization than IOC to purpose a major big winter sport events to compete WoG eject them from Winter sports.

not in these proportions. PC 2018 wasn't a popular success.