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It's a good thing that Isola 2000 is no longer in the plans; the resort is difficult to access by road. Significant work would have been necessary to modernize the road.

Since some years Le Grand Bornand and La Clusaz have a lack of snow. It twill be worst in 2030... I don't understand this choice. I am sure that Nice will be replaced by Lyon as the location. The venues need to be more compact.

Le Grand Bornand and La Clusaz are the ski resorts of Annecy, located a 30-minute drive from the city. It's likely that there will be a small athletes' village in Annecy, and holding the opening ceremony in Annecy is a possibility.

No one wants the Winter Games except for a few politicians, but the citizens are against it. The local opposition is very strong. For Annecy 2018, there was a bit of excitement, but that's no longer the case today. Mindsets have changed. With climate change, snowfall has become very unpredictable, especially in La Clusaz, Le Grand Bornand, Serre Chevalier, and Montgenèvre. France should canceled this bid

Munich Germany - Innsbruck 2030 Bid seems difficult because it's 2 countries... Germany or Austria are able to host WoG without anyone else. But maybe we could see this kind of bid between two countries in the futur. I imagine Geneva/Chamonix/Annecy but impossible. .

We could see another European bid, like PC 2018 and Beijing 2022.

I'm not sure you need a big city, a middle size city could be ok to host WoG. You need a stadium to host opening/closing ceremonies, it could be a temporary one like in Salt Lake, Albertville etc. To host speed skating you need an athletics track who can be transform in a temporary ice track. For Ice Hockey, Figure Skating and Short track you need something more durable but for a middle size city isn't a problem, but I think it's the most important expense item with olympic village (Capacity around 2800 Athletes). Where I live the city grow up about 2000 people each year since 20 years, it's an opportunity to build an Olympic Village for this kind of city. Usually Alpin cities are attractives and grow up since the 60's/70's. The other venues could be host in ski resorts close to the host city like in Albertville/Lillehammer etc. You have a lot of possibilities in Europe or North America with this kind of configuration. To host tourists/athletes isn't a problem too, each winter middle size cities in Alps welcome millions of tourists each year, they have accommodations. I don't understand why IOC say not every time for this kind of Bids, they are able to host WoG. Each Alpin/Nordic countries have around 2 or 5 middle size cities able to host WoG. For exemple France has Annecy, Chambery, Albertville, Grenoble, Gap able to host WoG and more if you do like Milano/Cortina, you could add Lyon, Nice and Toulouse. It's the same in Switzerland (Sion, Bern, Lucern etc.), Austria, Germany, Norway etc. The reason why you don't have this kind of Host cities is because IOC don't want and I don't know why.

Annecy won't bid again, the city is overcrowed because there are already too much tourists. Moreover the city has some problems with air pollution. Citizen don't want WoG and no more tourists, it's an import issue for citizen since some years. It will be very difficult to see WoG in France in the futur, there is a very strong opposition about WoG in the Alps and about this kind of business. With the news IOC rules to Bid, maybe we could se a bid from Lyon... But I'm not optimist about. WoG lost a lot in public opinion with Sotchi, Peyongchang and now Beijing... It's too late to change the minds about WoG in France. I'm very surprise about public support for Milano/Cortina. I think is a bad choice for WoG, with this kind of bid you lost the Alpin village atmosphere whom was a strength in the past for Alpin WoG. Milan isn't an Alpin or Winter city...

I like, Japan is a great place to host WoG. I have nothing against Asia, only against bullshit bid like PC or Beijing for WoG.

Since de beginning I said Korean paid bribes to host WoG... Now it's official. WoG in Asia are a big mistake and now it will be Beijing... It's stupid to go there.

For sure they cheated to host WoG, PC 2018 were the worst WoG in the history. Munich and Annecy had better bids. But IOC is corrupted.

Turin 2006 was good but I think if WoG comeback in Europe it will be better in a smaller city than Turin and closer to the mountains. WoG need to back to a village atmosphere and to be more authentic, like Lillehammer, Albertville, Innsbruck etc.

I'm agree with you too, but what's happen if like for 2022 all the European or even North American bids give up ? We could have the same story.

If Sapporo bids, Japan will probably win. Swiss like every time will say no to the referendum Public opinion and politic will be against for Lillehammer, like for Austria. Stockholm isn't a reasonable bid and Swedish opinion will be against like in Norway Calgary may be the only opponent to Sapporo... But they need politic approval... 2026 won't be in Europe.

PC 2018 cost 14 billions instead of 6,4 billions, one more time Olympic Games are a fail about this point, one more time local population will pay, one more time IOC don't care... It's the reason why public opinion is against WoG in Europa. It will be the same for Beijing, the WoG as the IOC wants aren't profitable.

I read newspapers, I watch news. PC spent twice as much as expected for WoG. The legacy is already a failure.

If IOC stay in Asia, it's the end of WoG and the Beginning of Winter Asian Games.

PC 2018 WoG has been well organized by Korea, I had a good surprise with Freestyle tracks that were good, with a good shaping. But it wasn't real WoG like we can expect : There were many problems like the lack of popular fervor and supporters, many seats in outside competitions were empty ,It was sad games without emotions. Usually WoG are a big party, not this time, we didn't see crazy supporters excepted North Korean Cheerleaders. In Biathlon, Nordic Ski, Alpin Ski and even in Freestyle ski the atmosphere was flavorless...Many Athletes criticized this point. I don't understand why IOC chose went to Korea... New Horizon was more an advertising slogan than a reality, there aren't New horizon for winter sports in Korea. This games were too artificial, we lost the village or Alpin atmosphere, PC doesn't have real mountains or real ski resorts, the main part of venues has been build only for this WoG and they will never be used in the future. Korea will have many White Elephant in the poorest Korean region... For local population it will be a very bad legacy. But IOC is happy, their members don't care about local population and the legacy. Moreover the environment was another big issue for PC : they destroyed a national forest for a boring Alpin track, this track was too easy and very far from the international standard. Moreover Korean used 98% of fake snow, in 2018 it's a real shame for IOC to accept this kind of bid without respect for environment, with the lack of water and the global warming, it's a really bad signal for the young generation and the futur bids... This is not going to improve the image that Europeans have about WoG. Korea had to pay bribes to host this WoG, it was another scandal... Like Russia and many other host before... But it's not reason to accept this point. With Sotchi, PC and Beijing, I thing we lost definitively the original spirit of WoG, and it's the main reason why IOC won't have bids for 2026 from Europe, public opinion is sick with this king of WoG, 100% artificial without respect for Athletes, environment or traditional winter countries. I think it's the moment for another organization than IOC to purpose a major big winter sport events to compete WoG eject them from Winter sports.

not in these proportions. PC 2018 wasn't a popular success.

Japan too, but Korea aren't China good for WoG. Athletes and public opinion criticisms these choice...

Definitively you said Bullshit informations, Korea at home did great games, like every country than host WoG, we missed some easy medals in these games especially in sliding and skating sports, would like mean the sun is over ? Of course not, look winter sports results not only WoG, we are always in the top 10 since the beginning... Korea will stay back after PC, you will never develop winter sports, you will stay strong only in short track... One sport, good for you. You are more stupid than I imagine.

I don't understand why it's a problem to have spread out bid ? Do you need to see Alpin ski the morning, Skeleton the afternoon and Ice skating the evening in the same day when you are spectator ? I think not. Usually you come to a place to see one sport per day. Maybe one the morning and another one the evening, I did this sometimes. When you are a supporter or spectator you don't need to see everything in the same day... Really the main part of supporters come to a place to see their favorite sport and after they enjoy the day to visit the village or the city close to the venues, they don't need to go immediately to another competition in another location... It happens like this in reality, I never heard someone who would like to see more than two competitions in one day, excepting some IOC members maybe. Swiss can bid with Sion even venues are spread, the atmosphere and show will be better than in Sotchi and PC or Beijing, everybody knows that fact. You should change how you imagine WoG.

Two questions : Where are the full stadium ? IOC lies about tickets sold Where are the natural snow ? Thank a USA company for PC fake snow Reality about fake snow

You are a lier. All newspapers, all TV reports said during this WoG, many times Stadium were empty... excepted for ice events. I trust journalists more than you, sorry. Look a picture from Alpine Downhill, nobody. Criticisms from French and Swiss Journalists : Swiss newspaper (In french) (Shame on IOC and Korea) France info. (No spectators) Please stop your bullshit now.

Do you think they will change the Korean Peninsula problem ? Are you so naive ? If South Korea got closer from North Korea it's only to avoid terrorism attack from north Korea during WoG like for Seoul 1988 (North Korea destroyed with a bomb a south korean plane). When you destroyed a national forest to build a track and when you use 98% fake snow isn't a scandals ? I don't know where you live but I read many criticisms about this the last 15 days. PC like Sotchi and soon Beijing showed they aren't able to manage winter events with global warming and environmental issues. Korean PC 2018 bid director has been accused for corruption juste after PC choice, isn't a scandal ? PC exceeded the WoG initial budget... All these factors give argues to European countries to not bid for futur WOG. When you talk about Paris and Los Angles, maybe, I say maybe it will be the first time since a very long time than we will have countries than will respect financial budget, human rights and avoid bribes and white elephants in the same time. London, Rio, Athens, Beijing, Sotchi, PC didn't do that. About snow, it was fake. The weather is dry in south korea during winter, it's the reason why they need to produce fake snow. It's a fact, I gave some link to USA today etc. The problem here, it is that a lot of contributors talk without to know something about bid countries or bid cities or even geographical or economic contexts, you repeat what you read in some propaganda news. Of course if you read Russian newspapers everything was perfect in Sotchi. If you listen IOC promotors and sponsors all the snow is natural and all the stadiums were full of supporters... Stop your bullshit. Look the reality, you lost all the bid cities for 2024 and the only reason why Paris continued their bid to 2024, it is because they didn't ask public opinion with a referendum. IOC had to negotiate to keep Paris and Los Angeles, they avoided an historical fail. You have no bid city for 2026, Sion will say not like Switzerland did since 2006, maybe Calgary, IOC must be praying for a Calgary bid... Nobody trust IOC and you are like IOC on gamesbid, between you to say "it was perfect", "nice host", "great success" but look the reality... No one wants these kind of WoG and no one wants WoG now. It's a fact.