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Do members of the forum actually think this is an option that the IOC might seriously considered if officially put forward?

13 cities with an approximate distances of a maximum 160km between the furthest edges, excluding Kiel.

There are 16 existing stadiums of 30,000 seats, 24 large sports halls so 80%+ venues are already in place. 

The one missing component is the ever problematic Olympic Stadium - a potential remedy will be 1FC Koln. The Rhein Energy Stadium with a capacity of 50,000 seats is deemed too small. They want to expand to 75,000 seats. There are a number of issues with the expansion of the current site that would make it economically unviable to do so under an official assessment. The city which rents the stadium actually makes a loss due to the current capacity. The club have investigated the possibility of a private stadium near the A1 which provides great access.

The first argument against will be that fans will not accept an athletics stadium due to the poor viewing angles but in Europe it has already been demonstrated that an athletics stadium always planned to be converted to football (Etihad, Manchester) or one will moving seats (Stade de France) have worked whilst the Stade Pierre-Mauroy was designed for multiple configurations.

If 1.FC Koln and the city can come to an agreement alongside the bid committee to build a main site stadium, with the option of multiple configurations and maybe a rectractable roof and you have a happy football team (new stadium, increased revenues, limited building costs), a happy city with a multi use stadium which can bring in additional revenues to help offset any losses if the yo-yo football club continue to up and down and a solution to the Olympic Stadium issue.

 

 

 

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The topic has been discussed in another thread. The stadium issue is the sticking point but if FC Koln wants a new privately owned stadium then I suppose that's a possible starting point. An even bigger hurdle would be the likelihood of a referendum across multiple locations. I'd like to see the DOSB give this a go as the concept would completely revolutionize SOGs bidding.

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7 hours ago, stryker said:

The topic has been discussed in another thread. The stadium issue is the sticking point but if FC Koln wants a new privately owned stadium then I suppose that's a possible starting point. An even bigger hurdle would be the likelihood of a referendum across multiple locations. I'd like to see the DOSB give this a go as the concept would completely revolutionize SOGs bidding.

But this thread does not have spelling errors in its title :-)

I'm not familiar actually with the concept of referendums in North-Rhine-Westphalia. There are differences between the various German states about that (and there's none for the whole country anyway). So maybe there wouldn't be a referendum anyway, but there's definitely A LOT of local rivalry between the cities involved all the time (Düsseldorf and Cologne make a point of pretending to hate each other, for example), so there is that to overcome TBW. I don't see it happening actually.

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5 hours ago, Booville said:

This is from 2017 AFAIK. Well-intended, but also a bit naive and full of (minor) errors both on facts (hello, two women football tournaments!), as well as linguistics (e.g. call wrestling a "discipline" on one page, and a "sport" on the next), that makes it look great on surface but if you dig into it, it's inconsistent to the point of annoying.

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Is this actually serious? I’d heard about there being looks into a bid but I don’t know if they’re taking it further to the IOC. Could be a very good concept, especially if they can find a way to handle the stadium. Apart from Bonn & Aachen I was actually surprised when I was there, just how close the cities are - it does feel like travelling through one big city. 

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19 hours ago, yoshi said:

Is this actually serious? I’d heard about there being looks into a bid but I don’t know if they’re taking it further to the IOC. Could be a very good concept, especially if they can find a way to handle the stadium. Apart from Bonn & Aachen I was actually surprised when I was there, just how close the cities are - it does feel like travelling through one big city. 

The people behind this are very serious about it, though more recently the PR company behind this has been much busier promoting some - at least partly - questionable Covid-19 studies that promote less strict measures and faster reopening (short summary, it is all a bit more complex of course).

I'm also not too convinced this has got any traction already in terms of widespread political and public support. The scepticism towards Olympics has not waned in Germany, and - again and again - Thomas Bach's role as Godfather of the IOC does not help at all. He's getting VERY bad press here, at least by all serious media, and that of course reflects on any bid.

I dare say that as long as he's in power, there's no chance of his home country changing this attitude. His personal ambitions have always been much more important to him anyway.

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What makes Bach so unpopular there - does it all come since he got the presidency or was he already disliked before - was he involved in dodgy dealings within Germany?

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