Soaring Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 This was posted yesterday, and I pretty much agree with the sentiment. At this point, it is hard for me to support a 2018 or 2020 bid from the U.S. It just doesn't seem logical at the moment. But congratulations to Rio! If Chicago loses 2016 bid, don't expect a 2nd effort soonOctober 1, 2009 Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has practically guaranteed Rio de Janeiro will be announced host city for the 2016 Olympics Friday in Copenhagen. Da Silva even has boasted that he phoned Obama and urged him to come to Denmark -- just to make Chicago vs. Rio a fair fight. But something da Silva said Monday, before flying to Denmark, betrayed a tinge of worry. "This is a fight," he said, according to an Associated Press account. "And if we don't win, we'll have to prepare for another one." No one from Chicago is talking that way. Chicago's 2016 bid is a make-or-break proposition. Look at what it took to put this bid together -- a mayor who transitioned from reluctant to obsessed, a billionaire with time on his hands, a civic community willing to pony up another $50 million for a bid campaign just a few years after digging deep for the $475 million Millennium Park -- and it's obvious another bid by Chicago would not happen any time soon. Daley will be off the scene by 2020 and has little incentive to mount a second bid. And Chicago's civic community is tapped out. No one will admit it. No one wants to talk this way and risk offending the International Olympic Committee, but Chicago is a one-and-done city. Let Madrid and Beijing come back with multiple bids. Chicago will take the route of Paris and New York, both of which after an affair with an Olympics bid last time acted ashamed they had entertained such silly dreams in the first place. Da Silva, with his comments, practically has invited the Olympics voters to put Rio on hold. You think "wait 'til next year" is tough at the end of a dreary baseball season? Try "wait 'til the next four years." But if the president of the country is saying he'll be back again, then expect the IOC to consider taking him up on the offer. A wait-until-next-Olympiad approach would be just right for Rio in any event. On technical matters, Chicago and Rio are a wash. Rio's $14.4 billion bid and many billions more in promised government largesse might give it an edge. Read Full Article - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 It's not up to Chicago though to mount another bid. Even if Chicago definitely wanted to, would the USOC be interested in trying for a THIRD run? And at this point, I don't think they will. Today's vote was kinda humiliating & no better turn-out than New York was (vote wise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 No U.S. bid will be presented for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I think all our sponsors should pull out and NBC should tell 'em to go pack it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4gamesandcounting Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I think all our sponsors should pull out I take it you are talking about the TOP sponsors. These are global companies - they may be based in the US, but they have a global reach. Acer are Taiwanese, Omega are Swiss, Samsung are Korean and Panasonic are Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted October 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I agree, but I am sure eager cities will still try. Don't expect Chicago to be among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 What surprises me though, is part of the article which should read true (& that we've also discussed here on a constant basis) : why would the IOC want to compete for sponsorship & share the limelight with FIFA. In that aspect, it just makes no sense whatsover. But whatever, time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I agree, but I am sure eager cities will still try. Don't expect Chicago to be among them. Thing is again, would the USOC want to try for a Third time. Doesn't matter how many U.S. cities might be interested, the USOC has the final word. And after today's vote, there seems to be a hidden message from the IOC right now. If New York & Chicago couldn't do it, how can any other lower-tier U.S. city drive it home. The IOC is just not interested in the United States at this time or in the forseeable future, & it was made perfectly clear today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4gamesandcounting Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 A winter bid is probably a better bet. No US summer bid until the 30's I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4gamesandcounting Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Which, I hasten to add, would be a shame. I've always wanted to go to a US games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Maybe not from Chicago, but weren't other american cities announcing their plans (I remember Birmingham was one of them)? Is there any chance Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston or even New York will prepare a bid to 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4gamesandcounting Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 As other's have said - guess it's all about whether USOC want to go for it or not - and whether they can - or want to - mend their relationship with IOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 The USOC had already said months ago, that Chicago win or lose, they were NOT going to put forth a 2020 candidate. I think they got the hint after 2 turn-downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stir.ts Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 This looks bad for the Olympics movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 well, the US got a little heady with 1984, 1996 and 2002. (ANd with sufficient reason to.) But I think the IOC feels that the cup must be passed around to others as well. And frankly, Rio was a sexier bid than a glass-and-steel-very LINEAR Chicago bid. And they just don't like those temporary stadia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Stir the soul is right, though. A disenchanted, disengaged U.S. is not going to be good for the Olympic Movement. I think 2018, 2020 and 2022 should all be off the table for the US. Where did they say they wouldn't mount a bid for 2020? That's definitely the right choice. I would start wondering if they were deaf, dumb and blind if they tried.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderella Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 If USOC finally decides to bid again for 2020, I wouldn't sugget to switch again the city bidding. If it's Chicago... ok, then Chicago until the end. I stated somewhere here that I reckon that the IOC doesn't like very much to have every four years a different American city bidding. Anyway, I agree that USA should not bid for 2020 and have a break. Spain too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiTown16 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Maybe not from Chicago, but weren't other american cities announcing their plans (I remember Birmingham was one of them)?Is there any chance Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston or even New York will prepare a bid to 2020? TULSA 2020!!! WASILLA 2022!!!! From what I remember, the USOC stated they wouldn't bid for 2018 but haven't decided on 2020 yet (there wouldn't have been a 2020 if Chicago was successful and stating 2020 intentions means they didn't have confidence in Chicago 2016). CHItown '16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSTOUT1221 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Have to agree that any US bid seems 'doomed' considering the best US bid ever could not get out of the 1st round - very disheartening for us Americans who wanted to see Chicago win! Unless the IOC gets desperate, they're not coming back here for a long time. The USOC needs to focus its efforts on continuing the US Olympic team's success going forward. It'll be interesting to see what NBC's bid will be now the host is known or if ESPN or another competitor swoops in! We will know pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 ehhh..forget the bids for now! Just grab all the gold! I think that's why they don't want to give us the hosting rights...because we take most of the hardware anyway. So it's a fair trade off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSTOUT1221 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Although I am happy for Rio, would be nice if we could sweep the beach volleyball golds right there on Copacabana Beach - may seem petty, but hey, we deserve something after gaining only 18 votes in the first round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code1390 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 It will be interesting if the money that is paid for the TV rights in the US plummets now that its clear the US won't host the games for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSTOUT1221 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Think you have it backward there code - NBC pays more than 50% of all broadcasting revenue worldwide.... if the fees plummet, the IOC will need to replace that $ somewhere and I doubt that OGlobo in Brazil will step up with $2B USD to broadcast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code1390 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I meant the US broadcasters might not be willing to pay the same money. Unlikely I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 It will be interesting if the money that is paid for the TV rights in the US plummets now that its clear the US won't host the games for a long time. I suspect this is exactly what will happen. It may not happen all at once, but I would expect a measured decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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