MIKYSALT Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 What a fantastic idea!! Apparently there are plans to redesign the Union Jack to incorporate a Welsh element, Possibly the cross of st David, I think it would look excellent and add colourful zing to the flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 And you read this where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Yeesh...why ruin a good - no GREAT thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Ooops...sorry for the giant size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Why would they want to change one of the best and most recognisable flags in the world? It's so good, there's a bunch of us who like to use it as part of our own flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Yeah, would Australia, New Zealand, Ontario, Hawaii, and Fiji have to change their flags as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKYSALT Posted November 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 that’s not necessarily what it would be like I saw it on the news today One of the options was a yellow rim around the cross of St George Or incorporating a dragon. Its very unlikely to be a dramatic as the one shown above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKYSALT Posted November 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Incidentally where did that picture come from. I like it , but its probably a bit to different to the current flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 that’s not necessarily what it would be likeI saw it on the news today One of the options was a yellow rim around the cross of St George Or incorporating a dragon. Its very unlikely to be a dramatic as the one shown above I dunno, all the ones shown on the BBC site look pretty crap to me! BBC Flag designs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I found that one on Wikipedia. Saw another with the Welsh dragon across it. It kind of does suck that Wales (except as a part of the Kingdom of England) was never included in the flag, but the Union Flag has so much history and meaning now. If you Brits are going to change anything, change your ridiculous and meaningless Olympic logo and leave your beautiful and highly recognized flag alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKYSALT Posted November 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I found that one on Wikipedia. Saw another with the Welsh dragon across it. It kind of does suck that Wales (except as a part of the Kingdom of England) was never included in the flag, but the Union Flag has so much history and meaning now.If you Brits are going to change anything, change your ridiculous and meaningless Olympic logo and leave your beautiful and highly recognized flag alone! I agree about the logo but Wales should realy be on the flag this is a bit more sedate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I found that one on Wikipedia. Saw another with the Welsh dragon across it. It kind of does suck that Wales (except as a part of the Kingdom of England) was never included in the flag, but the Union Flag has so much history and meaning now.If you Brits are going to change anything, change your ridiculous and meaningless Olympic logo and leave your beautiful and highly recognized flag alone! I'm sure it probably does such to the Welsh that they're not included in the Union Flag, but then again, they do have such a distinctive and attractive flag of their own, and I remember from my visits to Cardiff that they're not shy of flying it! I doubt the change proposal will get very far. From the experience of Australia, it's an emotional and difficult thing to get a flag changed. We've probably got as strong a logical and emotional case as any to change flags, but when it comes down to nitty gritty, trying to persuade people to change a design with history and tradition behind it, a flag that people have fought and died for, is difficult in the extreme. And then trying to get a majority of people to agree on the replacement is well-nigh impossible. Getting a majority of people to rally behind a sports logo is hard enough _ just try seeing how devisive changing a national flag is! That said, the Canucks did it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 The Queen's flag reflects the 4 realms, that should be good enough. Canada changed its flag in the 60's and it was heated during the time because the veterans were all up in arms because the fought and died under the red ensign, now everyone loves are flag. Though its kinda plain being ditonal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Actually, Wales isn't directly represented in the Queen's arms either. You have one quarter Scottish lion, one quarter Irish harp, and 2 diagonal corners of the 3 English lions. No dragons or leeks at all. With the design above, doesn't Wales become over represented with its crest at the centre? And what are the green lines for? And where does Northern Ireland's red x go? Flag design is terribly emotional. Canada's flag worked only because they chose a symbol for the whole country as one and not a flag that represented the bits and pieces that make up the country (although many tried!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka_Ray Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 If you Brits are going to change anything, change your ridiculous and meaningless Olympic logo and leave your beautiful and highly recognized flag alone! I'm very agree with your idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I thought the Union Jack has no Welsh element, since it was annexed by England in the laws of Wales Acts 1535-1542 - the Union Jack was introduced when the kingdoms of England and Scotland had been united in 1603 - in that time Wales was part of England... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I found that one on Wikipedia. Saw another with the Welsh dragon across it. It kind of does suck that Wales (except as a part of the Kingdom of England) was never included in the flag, but the Union Flag has so much history and meaning now.If you Brits are going to change anything, change your ridiculous and meaningless Olympic logo and leave your beautiful and highly recognized flag alone! Well,if the Scots do become independent (and they are already acting in many ways like they are),the Union Flag will become redundant,so enjoy it while you can!! I thought the Union Jack has no Welsh element, since it was annexed by England in the laws of Wales Acts 1535-1542 - the Union Jack was introduced when the kingdoms of England and Scotland had been united in 1603 - in that time Wales was part of England... Good point.But Wales now has its own National Assembly and Welsh national feeling has grown greatly in the last half-century or so.Treating Wales as just another part of England (even if legally correct) is no longer acceptable to many Welsh people so some kind of accommodation may have to be made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Well, I read that as EVEN more effective branding for 2012, GBR and London will also change their names to akiRema and siraP respectively. In keeping with 2012's present, innovative logo, the new names will also be the first in history starting lower case and having a capital letter in the middle or ending with a capital. There will be worldwide constests supposedly to figure out what the new names mean and where they came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Exactly. This sounds awfully like Gordon Brown's transparent love of "Britishness" to me. It won't solve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Well, I read that as EVEN more effective branding for 2012, GBR and London will also change their names to akiRema and siraP respectively. I wonder why the name is not changed into aciRema, but akiRema Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I wonder why the name is not changed into aciRema, but akiRema aciRema is olde english. akiRema is global, rap english -- very hip and with-it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Well, I read that as EVEN more effective branding for 2012, GBR and London will also change their names to akiRema and siraP respectively. In keeping with 2012's present, innovative logo, the new names will also be the first in history starting lower case and having a capital letter in the middle or ending with a capital.There will be worldwide constests supposedly to figure out what the new names mean and where they came from. Her Majesty's Government and the LOCOG committee have carefully considered your proposals and,after taking quick soundings,have just announced that your ideas are respectively tihsLLub and parC! But they have asked me to thank you anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Her Majesty's Government and the LOCOG committee have carefully considered your proposals and,after taking quick soundings,have just announced that your ideas are respectively tihsLLub and parC!But they have asked me to thank you anyway! Oh, decisions made in haste will always be regretted. I am giving them more time to reconsider. BTW, there is a condo complex in NYC already called the parC vendomE, Mr. Mainad. So, that's not too original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 akiRema is global, rap english -- very hip and with-it. And I thought that the UK not redesign the Union Jack only but adopt German as language, too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 This sounds awfully like Gordon Brown's transparent love of "Britishness" to me. It won't solve anything. You mean Brown's hideous, woeful and utterly futile attempt to make us forget that he is Scottish and the current political systems are unfairly biased against England, to give it its full and correct title? Besides which, haven't we got more important things to worry about than this? Not only will it not solve anything, but I reckon I've got more chance of winning the Lottery than this actually happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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