JO2024

I like how their bid and actual Olympics logo very much represents their Olympics. From nice, flowery, colourful to coporate-like, gloomy and colourless... It will probably be the Olympics with the most difference between their bid and the actual Games. Can't wait to see what the 2020 Games will be like (cause as of now, I have NO idea how it will be.....)

It always has to be about size, hasn't it? Well, you wish...but that's not how it works. The European Olympic Committees gathers 50 Olympic countries. The USOC, just one. So like I said before, since Russia and China are fairly big as well, should they also host as often as Europe? I mean look at Russia, it's even bigger than the US!!!!

Ahahah. I meant it, really. London 2012 will have absolutely NO impact on Paris 2024. It is INSANE for me to consider to have countless Olympics in the US because simply it's a big country, but having two Olympics in two (very close but VERY DIFFERENT) countries would be crazy. Are you for real? So, how about we give the next 15 Olympics to China and Russia. They are quite big after all, and I'm sure they could manage to have Olympics in Northern China, Western Russia, Southern China, Northern Russia, Eastern China, Southern Russia... Oops, just realized it actually just did happen. Hmmm....

Agreed. This is not about geographicals. The US is the US. Do you know how insanely close Paris is from London? And yet, England and France are two very separate countries. So London hosting in 2012 will not change a thing regarding Paris 2024.

And just to make myself and this bid clear. 1924-2024 is just pure coincidence. Paris has been trying to get SOG since 1992, so... Of course it would be reminded, probably in the OC, but only IF we get those Games. Atlanta got the centennial, Beijing will most likely be the first city to host both Summer and Winter Olympics (though I would definitely have prefered Munich to get this honour). So, yes, it would be nice for Paris to be the first city to host two SOG in a space of exactly 100 years. I'm sure you call all understand that.

Thank you FYI, what I've been pointing out for a few months now basically is that Italy last last hosted SOG in 1960, Germany in 1972, Canada in 1976, the US in 1996, and France in 1924. Simply look at this, and you'll know exactly why I think Paris, France, should be awarded those 2024 Summer Games. This is no arrogance at all. Thanks guys for understanding. I'm just trying to be as much objective as I can, but of course I'm biased, I'm French, and I've been living in Paris for the last two years (and God only knows how much I love this city).

Ok guys, I think I'm not being understood quite clearly here. I'm gonna have another go at it. I couldn't agree more than the revitalization of the Seine Saint-Denis is the best thing in this bid. Paris is working hard to make sure this poor region is fully integrated in the Grand Paris project (3 out of 4 new metro lines will be there), and what's the point of hosting Olympics if it doesn't have an impact on the city's urbanisation. I'm 100% supporting this idea in the bid. But in 2008, the IOC clearly told to the Paris bid committee that they feared for the athletes as the Athletes Village was in Seine Saint-Denis (I read the evalution report). So they suggested that the Athletes Village should be relocated. That is also why the village was NOT in Seine Saint-Denis in their 2012 bid (though some major venues were). So I'm sure you can understand my struggling to understand what the IOC wants... Yes, I'm a pessimist, cause I don't want to get disappointed if Paris doesn't get the 2024 Games. But I also understand why you guys think it's a clear frontrunner. I'm not being arrogant or obnoxious. I do think that it would be nice, after all those years, even decades, to finally have the SOW in France. Each of the 2024 are interesting. I don't hate Boston, Toronto, nor do I hate americans or canadians. I'd also hate for Hamburg, or Rome, or Budapest to win. It's just part of the competition. I'm simply a Paris supporter. And this whole negative attitude of mine is simply to avoid disappointment. That way I can only be positively surprised!

Anyway. Let's wait at least for an official announcement. Today's also the day the USOC decides on the Boston bid, isn'it? Exciting day for this 2024 race!

Jee, read what I write before you write you attack. Did I ever say that I consider Paris a frontrunner? No. I'm probably the only one here not too. So calm down honey.

Développe, s'il te plaît...

It seems whenever I say Paris should not be considerd the frontrunner it upsets everyone on here. So let me explain why: Paris 2024 will have most of their venues in Sein Saint-Denis (the département North of Paris): Stade de France, the aquatic center, the athletes village, the multiple arenas, etc. Which is great, since 2 airports would be located very close to those venues, and it would considerably boost this region. BUT, for their 2008 bid, Paris had planned to have the athletes village in the Seine Saint-Denis, and it scared the **** out of the IOC who advised Paris to change that. Cause, yes, Seine Saint-Denis is the poorest département) in France. It's definitely not the safest one, and I get that the IOC is not confident about Olympic stuff going on there. But, here you go, now Paris is going for a bunch of major venues there. And though I do like the idea and see why they want to go there, I do also know the IOC won't like it. At all.

Hello you! What about the jokes on my pseudo? Well, let me tell you. I get the whole WOOOOOOOW THE PANAMS WHERE SO FUCKING BRILLIANT! But did all the previous PanAms host cities bid for Olympics for that same reason? No they didn't (apart from Rio). Canada DID host Games in 2010, don't deny it. And they were great Games. I will never deny that. And you should know by know that I might support Paris 2024, but I DO NOT think it should be considered a frontrunner. No city should be actually. I like though how you think Toronto would put down Paris based on the 2008 bid...Ahahahahah. Oh well, you're from Toronto, I'm from Paris. Let's agree to disagree, shall we? Good luck my friend, and let the fun begin! Oh so we actually can agree on something. My bad.

No, sure don't get me wrong. I do think they have a better chance that Boston. And I do understand how the PanAm do help. I just feel it's a bit too soon, isn't it? And Paris might be a fruntrunner but there are many things in their bid (and oh I wish I knew more about Paris bid) that the IOC might not like, so...to be fair,I think this 2024 race will be quite interesting to follow (unlike some recent host city election which I couldn't care less about).

Is Canada aware that they hosted Olympic Games 5 years ago?

So...Toronto, Boston (or LA), Hamburg, Budapest, Rome and Paris. Well, they've just had their PanAm Games and are already going for Olympics, like literally few hours after. Tell me about confidence...

And yeah, reading myself, you're gonna say Paris is being arogant once again. Sorry, no, I don't think it is, maybe I am... I have to say I really have no idea who will get those 2024 Games...Paris is not that obvious to me, since we can't quite predict what the IOC members will feel like voting (neither can we predict how corrupted they will be).

Is Toronto seriously bidding for 2024?? I'm gonna be honnest with you guys and will get some of you guys hate me (that's what happens whenever I write something here) but, by bidding right now they seem a bit too arogant about themselves, like, they know who is already bidding and still think they have a chance (and we all know it's Europe time!). Weird. But, I can't help to think that they're doing what Paris did in 2008. Just preparing for the next bid. They know the US are struggling to get their stuff together, and they also know that 2028 could be the year of a North American Olympics. I don't think Africa will show up before 2032, so I do think Toronto would be smart on bidding for 2028, but a 2024 has to be a warm-up bid. Then they should be aware that Paris had had 3 warm up bids before this one, so...Oh, but yet again, so did Madrid. Arf.... Anyway, I won't lie and say that I'd be a bit gutted if Toronto get the 2024 Games against Paris...

Oops, meant Kazahstan of course. Baku, still fresh in my head.

It's good to know that snow is no longer an issue to host WOG. Dubai should have a go at it then. Oh, Paris should try as well if they don't get 2024....

Agreed. Almaty offers a much better bid than Beinjing. It's compact, it's wintery, it has mountains, it has many venues already in place, it's new, it's different. Beijing? AGAIN? Sames venues as in 2008? And come on, who would associate Beijing as a winter sport city? Why have they never hosted major winter sports competition before? At least Almaty did (or will do). But you know, it's China vs Azerbaidjan, so....

I'm pretty sure Beijing will win. But I'd prefer Almaty.

I'm glad Tokyo has made the right decision regarding the Stadium. That thing was a pricey ugly f**ker. Now, I'm a bit concerned about Tokyo. They seem a little bit confused with those Olympics. They wanted to go all wow but they realize now that they just can't. They will end up with a basic stadium, which would actually be fine. When you compare their original bid with what the Games are likely to be...quite a change! I know the IOC doesn't give a **** about all this (or do they?), but still...

Indeed. Toronto could do like Paris did in 2001, for 2008. They were having a bid just to make it stronger the next time (2012), cause they knew it would be Beijing to get those Games. It's not the best example, as Madrid tried three times in the row to get the SOG (2012, 2016, 2020) but it didn't work (though Madrid, as a Spanish city, coudn't obviously get the Games in 2012, 20 years only after Barcelona, 2016 wasn't even possible straight after Games in Europe, London 2012, and 2020, with their really bad economy, just no). So, Toronto could try and see for 2024, with a poor probability to get the Games, and have a stronger bid for the obvious North American Games of 2028 (I do think that Africa will be ready for 2032, not before), and maybe Australia could get the 2036 Games. Yes, no SOG in Asia before that (hopefully) after three consecutive Games in 2018, 2020 and 2022 (South Korea, Japan, and China)....

Yes, Paris is not bidding for 2024 because of their 1924's Olympic Games centennary. They made that clear, and that would scare the IOC away. Toronto and Paris being in the 2008 race was a completely different thing though. I don't really care if Toronto bids, it doesn't feel like a major threat to me. And yes, Vancouver 2010 might be a bit of the reason why....

Yesterday (Bastille Day) in Rio, bleu blanc rouge, in support of Paris 2024 (I think)! And yesterday in Paris, for the big fireworks!