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SO, anyone fancy Lausanne 2025?

Ah, what a beautiful saturday for a song contest... And it get engulfed in flames. I wish i could watch the live stream on Youtube, but alas, after a barrage of protest posts on the chat before the show starts and then the stream decided to disappear, or more accurately, never even start. I have other options butt still...

Forgot to say who i think is going to win in the Women's tournament. My heart wants my own country of course, but mind says Spain.

Actually, a version of Otl Aicher pictograms are indeed used as standard Olympic Pictograms, under the general Olympic Brand Guidelines. In pratice, they are being used as default pictograms at the Olympics.com site and the YOGs. https://library.olympics.com/doc/SYRACUSE/2875741

WE HAVE OUR COMPLETE FIELDS FOR THE TWO OLYMPIC FOOTBALL TOURNAMENTS! With Guinea 1-0 victory over Indonesia in the Intercontinental Playoff for the boys, all slots for Paris 2024 are finally complete, so let's see our groups! Now, my wild guesses, now that our continent sized holes have been filled! First, the boys who just got their slots filled. Gotta say, the organizers were lucky in the security department that the Asian Cup rolled the way it did, because, oh boy, had an Arab country won the tournament and be seeded straight into Israel group or if things just rolled a bit different for Indonesia and Iraq had to qualify in the play-off into the USA group... But then real life puts Guinea into France group, of all people. This one gotta be fun. Now my guesses of what i think could happen, in order of 1st, 2nd, 3rd then 4th(bear in mind that the men's tournament is a bit murky to predict due to being both a U-23 tournament and 3 overage athletes being allowed despite that), tie guesses indicated by an "and" between teams and qualified in bold for sure guesses and italic for doubtful; Group A: France, Guinea and United States (will depend on direct confrontation, more likely), New Zealand. Group B: Argentina, Morroco, Ukraine (direct confrontation and how teams show up will be crucial, but i will give a bit of a edge for Morroco, just because they are an continental winner vs a semifinalist), Iraq (hey, Morroco got an arab companion at the group!) Group C: Spain, Uzbequistan and Egypt(i cannot predict how those two will stack up at all), Dominican Republic(i feel they are behind, but who knows with whos also in the group?) Group D: Japan, Paraguay, Israel, Mali. (No sure guesses for the second slot of this group, even if i put Paraguay ahead. This thing gonna be a fiesta) Winners: wish it could be Brasil, but my boys decided to not play football in the olympic qualifier event... But i can give some edge to France(for being hosts) and Argentina. Now, the real show: The Women's Tournament! Unlike the boys, the girls have full strength and this is also a good reason to their tournament be the one who closes the football affairs this time. Guesses sorted the same way, in order of 1st to 4th, bold for sure qualifiers, italic for potentials. Bare in mind that the women's have less teams, so 3rd places could be bolded because two of them will advance to the knockouts. Group A: France and Colombia(direct confrontation will matter a lot!), Canada, New Zealand. Group B: Australia, United States and Germany, Zambia. (This group will be a mess! USA might still have recent continental glories, but is not convincing of late, Germany even less. Despite this, another question mark paves the way: will Australia continue their good form from their home World Cup in these games? Injuries could tell.) Group C, of the deadly revenge: Spain(obviously, given how these girls are going after winning it all last year in Australia and NZ), Japan and [Brasil and Nigeria]. (Ok, i need a explanation. Why i put my own country in brackets like this. Japan will certainly do their job, the uncertainity being which position. This will be determined on how well Brasil will come to play. If my girls stop them, they more likely will qualify togheter. If somehow we fumble vs Nigeria first game, and fumble next vs the Nadeshikos... It's gonna be tough to battle for third when you have friggin World Champions despite their federation Spain in your way. How Brasil is going to be is going to be how things gonna flow. If we get 1-1, then it's murkier. The question is, we will let the pressure explode us and pull a 0-nil that will send us home like last year in Australia or we will make our stars shine? Luckily, we can make it be spicy at the very least.)

You gotta hear it in full, it was fully played at the Flame arrival in Marseille. I just couldn't stop myself repeating that part later, the orchestral only part is just the intro, later it blends with the band rather well in my view. (at the stream in the Olympics channel if it's available in Australia, time stamp 56:23)

Thank you! A really good read. And hoo boy, Coubertain is really lucky to have had one good idea in life because all his other ones... Imagine being a monarchist in a French Republic, lol. To not say about the mysogny and racism... I also chuckled when the article said about the 1900 games being ofuscated by my country very own Santos-Dumont!

Ah, really good call and good to learn. Is there some place to read more about that, i'm curious now. The nazi stuff, given his condensedence to Berlin 36 is to be expected, but the colonialist stuff is news to me, even if not surprising given his status as well.

Two curveballs that could be interesting on this front: 1) An winter olympic athlete, because Chamonix 1924 happened as much years ago as Paris 1924; 2) Someone from the Coubertain Family, because why not. In both cases and any other normal guess however, i think that our final calduron lighter will be a woman. Bonus points if she's dressed like Marianne, the face of the actual logo of the games. Would be too symbolic to pass in the first gender balanced summer games. You françoais are only getting started with this show and i can already say it's going really well! Enjoy the flame staying in your country, all french people in the forum. Maybe run alongside the torch for a while when it passes in your town. Even if some president get's impeached in the meanwhile!(in a nod to the time it went in my country) It's really gonna be fun!

No, just in french, but this does help on understand things! Better than a dodgy livestream anyway. Sorry for the confusion

Bit off topic, but i have to say, your TV public broadcaster has really nice stuff on it! While we wait for the relay broadcasts, i would also reccomend to a watch Aux Jeux Citoyens of France.3, a pretty nice magazine about the build up for the games. Too bad that you need a VPN to watch this with subtitles, but if anyone is already going to use a VPN to watch the olympic channel...

Yes, you're right. But it would be funny.

We have Asia locked in! Today, the third place match of the mens U23 Asian Cup happened, and Iraq is our third asian team and will be in Group B(i think). Indonesia will play against Guinea in the Intercontinental Playoff for a slot in Group A. Tommorow, we have the final between Japan and Uzbekistan, which should decide who gets Group D or C, and of course, the Continental Champioship. Anyway, we have our entries for the boys side now.

@FYIWhoa, nice one! I stand corrected! Lovely that amazing chain started because of my mistake. @krow, maybe you should ask for that UN resolution.

It's on the Pacific.

Morocco looking anxiously right now... 👀 This would be the first Arab women's team to get to the Olympic tournament if Zambia gets suspended? In other news, Japan and Uzbekistan qualified to the men's tournament yesterday by winning their semifinals. Another spot will be decided by the third place match.

Well, at least they arent going to kill the athletes if they lose...yet.

Renember that if it happens, things might get more hetic than just 2034, due to the potential situation of the gentleman agreements for 2030 that made it possible to the saudis almost nag it so easily in first place, even though there isn't really so much real evidence of problems at the saudis bid commitee itself. COMNEBOL already signed their part for the 3 games in South America, but 2030 itself wasn't officialy apointed yet to Morroco and Iberia... If the saudis get out, we will just have a semi-regular bid process for 2034 in the wake of whatever happens to 2030, even if just the confirmation of what we currently have. Good luck convincing literally every continental confederation and their national federations of that.

Argh, i renembered after posting that they did said there will be replays of the events, so that may be a sign. Sorry about the double here.

https://olympics.com/pt/noticias/olympics-com-transmite-paris-2024-brasil Something that passed under the radar here; in addition to Globo and CazéTV, it seems that the IOC themselves will also put online livestreaming for Brazil through their official app and website, announced at the 100 days to go mark. No news if there is going to be portuguese commentary or if it is just the english cast that is going to be available. No news about charging anything as well, so we might just assume there won't be any, neither if it's going to be separated in channels or every event will have a separeted stream. This also might be a sign for any country without broadcasting rights for where they might get to see anything.

Yeah, that's for sure. Even in winter it can get hot here!!

Yeah, but this isn't a normal ceremony, isn't it? Of course, your ideas overall are actually more likely based in recent calduron trends since 2016, but if anything can pull a twist on that part, it could be the one stretched along a river. Still, i believe that if my guess happens, the Olympic Flame segment should start from the Trocadero and then go to the Tullieres, so were kinda in agreement that there will be fire where the stars are. Now, i got in my mind some memories from Toronto 2015 Panam Games OC, that were in a stage inside the stadia, and the torch with the flame was positioned there at the beginning of the ceremony and then after everything else got to the calduron at the end of the show. Something like that could happen? Considering this is a opening ceremony within a river, maybe that wouldn't be really a problem. Everything else might as well be too different to anything that came before that when something is similar to a older ceremony, the public in general doesn't even notice. And even then, if someone does have the idea of a river leg, they could pass the flame along boats on the track like you would see at foot in a stadium if this becomes a concern.

Actually for real Rio 2016, just because it's Winter in August in my hemisphere. You might have to resort to that to force them to endure the real most gruelling part of the ceremony - listening to Fencing 76’s speech. Meh, if you dissociate from your body or just let a idea or daydream spark in your head, that might be just a little more bearable. Ooor just make the Olympic Flame travel by boat by the Seine, just like the atlethes in reverse. That would make a good shot.

Elegant, like a business meeting on the riverside! That short model is a crime against the woman athletes, dear lord. The fact this was shown as a option in first place might be just a bit more telling on how the suits see them, because if you produce something this impratically revealing for elite atlethics, to the point using it is absolutely detrimental, you definitevely should have someone in board more sane to shot that down, double points if this person is the target audience of your product, women athletes. Women in general, actually.

We got today, along with the ignition of the olympic torch (the flame itself is from the day before because it was cloudy today in Greece), the draw for Handball! Look at the fun stuff right here, i think handball especialists can infer better on the relative strenghts of every group but i as a layman can feel that those must be tight. Denmark, Norway, Hungary and France with Egypt and Argentina at the same group for the boys. My Brasil girls will face off Spain, Netherlands, Hungary, France and (in a nice lusophone touch) Angola. France choose their groups in each tournament, by the way, so any shortcomings will absolutely be their fault. Gotta love the Olympic 6-team group formats, isnt it?