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    Beijing 2022

    Well, the fundamental premise of my post is that what is happening in China politically now, WILL impact the 2022 Olympics in some way, beyond just getting the new facilities and the infrastructure built. Regardless of what any of us on an internet board writes, or any moderators accept/don't accept....regardless of what the IOC or anybody else thinks--this China train is now rolling down a track to a place that is potentially darker than we dared think several years ago.
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    Beijing 2022

    Not sure where to put this post, but here it is. I don't know if any of you have been following the political news from China, but one of the most important items of international news may be forthcoming. The National Party Congress that's just started is about to dismantle the presidential term limits that were put into China's constitution after the nightmare of the Mao era ended, specifically to combat the dictatorship syndrome. Since that time, China's political leadership changes every 10 years and was vested in a consensus-making group. Not a free system to be sure, but with its own version of internal checks and balances so no one person could run away with all the power. That is about to change--the current president, Xi Jinping, has requested (demanded) that term limits be abolished and that he become "President for Life." He has spent the last 5 years ruthlessly dispensing with enemies and amassing power in a way not seen for a long time in China. He has tried--with incomplete success but still in progress--to develop a cult of personality a la Mao. While the "vote" hasn't yet been taken, barring something completely unforeseen, it will happen since few are left who will challenge him. This will set him up to be a defacto dictator hearkening back to the Mao days, or equally accurately, the Stalin days. Why does this matter? Well, it has profound effects on the general international stage both politically and economically, things that will affect most countries in the world in some form or fashion. I first lived in China (although not that long) in the post-Mao Deng Xiaoping era, where China was poor, backwards, ignorant, but hopeful that things would get better. Tiananmen Square 1989 put a huge hiccup in that for awhile. Then returned to China during the Jiang Zemin era--probably the "golden age" when things were noticeably less repressive, economy like gangbusters, lots of risen expectations politically as well (most of which didn't happen), but generally very positive. This is the period where China was awarded the 2008 Games. Then on to the Hu Jintao era, where a more conservative leadership rolled back some of the progress and increased certain aspects of social control, but still not too bad. Then the Xi Jinping era started, though mild at the beginning there were definite signs that things were going to get bad, and they have. (I left full time residency in China at this time, partly because of this). Anti-foreigner mentality, social and political repression, outside internet access, etc all have become much worse. Xi is a seriously nasty character even by Chinese standards, possibly even by Putin standards... and about to get full license to get even nastier. As often-opined on this website, the IOC got stuck with two flawed choices for 2022 WOG selection, and made what at the time seemed like the least-bad of the two. I'm sure the venue production, logistics, etc will be taken care of in the normally successful Chinese way, but whether this will be the sort of games that anybody outside China will want to attend....I don't know. As with 2008 and the extreme security and control measures put into place for that entire summer, I wouldn't expect much "Olympic spirit," atmosphere, joie-de-vivre, whatever during the Games. But before that, I would expect China to experience increasing unrest of the sort that could make international headlines. China is a big place with lots of people, and not all of them are on board with Xi as a person, as a leader, nor with the idea of going back to a dictatorship or Emperor mentality. Xi Jinping has a disadvantage that Mao didn't have: having to deal with modern technology and communications and the peoples' ability to do an end run around state apparatus. Even in China, control is not complete and state efforts leak like a sieve. Hang on, this could be a bumpy next few years.
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    Beijing 2022

    Yes, they are marketing the entire Zhangjiakou area within China to domestic Chinese visitors and to expat groups also, who don't want to deal with the extreme cold (and distance) of going up to the Harbin area. My church is getting a group together to go up to Chongli in a couple of weeks for a 3-day trip. Skiing and snowboarding are in growth mode in China. The bullet train will really fill a need beyond a two-week sporting event. While a lot of outsiders think that this is one of those made-for-Olympics infrastructure deals, the truth is that there has been a huge need for a bullet connection between Beijing and Zhangjiakou for the last 10 years. It's an extreme annoyance getting to ZJK by !@#$% slow train or backed-up road traffic, and a bottleneck if heading to Inner Mongolia. Zhangjiakou might be known now as one of the Olympic hosting sites, but that's kind of incidental. It's a major industrial city and military town: a big part of the People's Liberation Army protecting Beijing is based there. The only parts of the 2022 Infrastructure that I think are likely white elephants are the sliding venues. But I guess that's been a problem for Winter Olympic hosts the world over. The main worry I'd have about the actual Olympic period is lack of plentiful natural snow. I'm sure the Chinese gov't has a tiger team working on how to influence the heavens though.
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    Beijing 2022

    Yes, almost certainly. Even with just the current pre-Olympic facilities in the area, it's being heavily marketed in Southeast Asia. Lots of Singaporeans and Malaysians have been coming up to learn basic skiing and see snow (natural or man-made). And they can combine with normal tourist stuff in the Beijing area. It's orders of magnitude cheaper than going to Japan or Europe or North America to do winter sports. There may be some follow-on opportunities for foreign ski instructors who have a lot of patience with beginning skiers.
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    NBC Rio Prime time Coverage

    NBC has been a bunch of overpaying-suckers for some time, and that's on them. With so many alternate uses for discretionary time, US society in general--and under-40's in particular--just aren't into watching sports competitions that much anymore, beyond perhaps their favorite pro or college major sports (US football, baseball, basketball) team. My wild @ss estimates: out of 300,000,000 population, maybe 5,000,000 have significant to passionate interest in the Olympic Games across all sports, another 20,000,000 have considerable interest but only in one or a small number of sports and maybe the Ceremonies, and another 35,000,000 are happy to watch if it's interesting and convenient. The rest are either children, comatose, disinterested, or irritated that their normal prime-time and daytime programming has been disrupted. If you frame the equation as not having 300,000,000 "potential pairs of eyeballs" but instead having a country of more like 60,000,000 (5 + 20 + 35 MM) pairs of eyeballs, I think you consider the financials in an entirely different light. The lack of "conversion" of the younger adult demographic is particularly troubling to the networks and I'm not sure that "more and better technology to reach them" is any sort of magic bullet. I am sure that the NBC fossils executives that put together the broadcast coverage need to be retired/replaced. The executives can take some of their commentators out to pasture with them--start with Trautwig. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Rio's worse-than-expected ratings wasn't so much an aberration, but a more extreme result of a negative trend that's been going on with Olympics for a long time. However, I wouldn't put the entire burden on NBC and its own failings; a lot of this is societal shift and that may not be reversable under any combination of content + technology. The interest of American society in the Olympics may have peaked some time ago. I do think the Olympic Games as currently presented by the IOC is also part of the problem but that's a different topic thread.
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    Weightlifting: It needs to go

    Can't edit my post, but forgot to quote from the article this oddity "... Kyrgyzstan's under 69kg bronze medallist Izzat Artykov the first athlete in any sport stripped of an Olympic medal at Rio 2016 for doping after a positive test for strychnine..." Surely this is a typo. I should think if he had any amount of strychnine in him, being stripped of a medal would be the least of his worries!
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    Weightlifting: It needs to go

    http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1041266/top-weightlifting-official-slams-poor-transport-crowds-and-volunteers-at-rio-2016-before-attacking-disgraceful-doping First part of article is more Rio-specific logistics, latter part talks about the doping.
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    Rio 2016 Closing Ceremony Live Chat

    I don't think it measures anything but regular broadcast TV. I watched some scattered hours on broadcast--more during the day than in primetime, but watched the NBC livestreams (on a desktop and laptop) extensively over the entire course of the Games. Of course they surely have ways of measuring access to their website as well as duration per visit. This needs to be counted in some way since it's just another method of getting "eyeballs" but from an advertiser's standpoint, it's not going to be viewed as valuable as broadcast. I know each time I accessed a different livestream, I had an introductory ad of about 15-20 seconds but after that, stream was ad-free. Bottom line is that NBC (or any broadcaster) can't keep on using 1996 methods and metrics in 2016. About the only people who still overweight towards getting their program content through broadcast TV usage are the older age demographic. And NBC needs to take a good long look in the mirror at the hosts/anchors, commentary, and general program presentation (er "curation" in NBC-speak) -- to say it's 80% sucky would be kind. So one has to ask--how much of the problem was the Games, and how much was the Gatekeeper (NBC) for US audiences? That said, I do think the fragmentation of the US audience and other options/demands on peoples' time, means that the segment of the population actually interested in the Olympics, beyond a few specific athletes, teams, or sports, is relatively limited.
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    Rio 2016: Your verdict

    Strictly from my spectator-watching-livestream perspective, which of course can't capture the same feeling or nuances as being there in person: A. Sports and Spectacle = everything taking place in stadiums, pools, courts, road, etc including Ceremonies: B+ Points taken off for an Opening Ceremony that was OK but not stellar and for the green pools debacle. Otherwise, I'd have elevated this to A- or A. B. Everything Else = logistics, transportation, security, venue and Village readiness, ticketing, fans disguised as empty seats, poor sportsmanship of many of the Brazilian crowds: C- With generally fuller venues, I'd have bumped this up to C+. Minimizing or eliminating the jeers and boos in situations where it was rude and noncompliant with international sportsmanship norms, and I'd further bump up to B-/B. When somebody says "Rio Olympics" in the future, I will remember these two issues more than any other missteps.
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    Team USA IN Rio 2016

    I agree with this. I'm much more focused on each contest and how the individuals/teams performed. If medals are won by those who were expected to win, very fine. If medals are won unexpectedly, very dandy. Whatever the total medal list adds up to in the end, is what it is--I don't get too focused on that and think a lot of it is media hype, at least in the USA media. Most Americans didn't wake up after the conclusion of the 2008 Beijing Games where we weren't at the top of the standings, only to think any less of our athletes or ourselves. Sports prowess is great but not intrinsic to the national psyche.
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    Rio 2016 Closing Ceremony Live Chat

    Oh my, that lady's cups runneth over.
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    Rio 2016 Closing Ceremony Live Chat

    When the camera pans back, you can really see all the empty seats in the stands. Really sad.
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    Rio 2016 Closing Ceremony Live Chat

    "...Call upon the youth of the world...." Isn't that an outdated notion in 2016, when you've got medalists in their 30's, 40's and even 50's?
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    Rio 2016 Closing Ceremony Live Chat

    Once the speeches started, I wound the stream back to the handover and Tokyo segment. Speeches still going on. Guess I'll hit rewind and replay again.... Buzz me when somebody grabs the Big Hook and pulls Bach off the stage.
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    Rio 2016 Closing Ceremony Live Chat

    This Japan segment is brilliant! Super MaRIO!
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