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  1. You do that Robh. Let it be shown though that you took it upon yourself to come into this thread, not make a post related to the topic but to single out me based upon your well established dislike of me. No examples given -- just arrogance that I better not answer back. I never asked you to post to me. If you answered one of my posts I'd have responded respectfully. Whether or not everyone, 95%, 87.4% of people on this forum like me is irrelevant -- they could all be wrong, partially right etc. I am deeply concerned with the Woolwich atrocity. It is sickening. And I'm posting accordingly. Asking questions. So with all due respect Rob, if that offends you, then tough. I'm all for debate. I'll talk with anyone here. I've not always agreed with you but I'd never arrogantly demand you or anyone else not answer back like Robh just did to me. Never. Especially when he took it upon himself to chastise me based upon his prior beef with me. That's just childish.
  2. "Whether your point of view on a subject has merit or not, you always rub people up the wrong way" > translates as your points maybe right but that's irrelevant because I've got a beef with you stemming from when you first joined this forum so I'm going to not engage in sensible, reasoned debate but rather attack you. "Don't bother to argue with me on this because it's demonstrably true and happens in pretty much every thread you involve yourself in." > translates as I think I'm better than you by so much so that I can arrogantly demand that you do not reply back to my antagonistic comments. In order to bolster this claim, I'll mention generalized views of your supposed behavior whilst conveniently forgetting the nuance of those debates. "I'll await the hordes of other forum members telling me I've got you all wrong... " translates as popular opinion makes something a fact. If the majority of other forum members share my views (even though they're wrong) that makes what I'm saying right. Did you have an actual point related to the thread Rob? Or is this just a personal vendetta against me? Is it upsetting you that I care about the woolwich atrocity? Does it upset you that I'm asking questions? Saint Rob, can I ask questions -- is that all right with you?
  3. Thank you for taking the time out of your life to count my posts. That shows that you're not in any way shape or form OBSESSED with me. What does that say about you? Actually, the fact I've posted in this topic (as have other people and I didn't actually start this thread) really means that I'm interested in this topic. Would you prefer I discussed more pressing matters such as Kim Kardashian's pregnancy instead of the latest inhumane jihad attack which affects all our lives? If I'm being replied to I tend to reply back unless the post is extremely silly (as many of yours have been). Could you point me to the Gamesbids rules on the acceptable number of replies in a given thread concerning a topic such as this? Excuse me? What does the commonwealth games have to do with a jihadist murder and moreover, why shouldn't I talk about it? Are you trying to imply that by questioning Islam I'm somehow the bad guy? Is that what you're saying? Or is it that the notion of a commonwealth is predicated upon placating jihadists so I better pretend Islam is guilt free? I find that post really strange mate. You might mean something nice by it but the notion I can't talk about jihadist murder in London (which the whole world is talking about) because my country is hosting the commonwealth games is absurd.
  4. How many children go on killing sprees because of allegorical fairytales as opposed to LITERAL ISLAMIC KORANIC DIRECTIVES? This is the point -- Islam IS producing many jihadists and isn't taught as some fairytale -- it is based on the REAL LIFE PERSON OF MOHAMMED. Roald Dahl and J.K Rowling books don't seem to quite on the level of the Koran somehow....... You said "if you're raised and educated properly and are of sound mind" -- that's the whole point. How can a person be raised of sound mind if they are indoctrinated THEIR ENTIRE LIVES under Sharia law? You know, if the Koran didn't contain any of those ABUNDANT references to kill, wage war, subjugate the infidel/enemies of Islam then things couldn't be misinterpreted. So why does Islam have words like those in their Korans at all? Their isn't 'alternative' meanings to an Islamic directive to 'smite off someone's fingers'. -- it means to chop yer fingers off. And the fact these words are authenticated via the MOST OFFICIAL DOCUMENT IN ISLAM means that Muslims have the Koranic backing to do these things in the name of Allah against the infidel. Not all do. But because these words do exist it means some inevitably will. If the nasty words didn't exist there couldn't be any misinterpreting going on. Simple as that. And no, not all religions are bad.
  5. "Any religious text can be re-interpreted or translated to suit ones immediate needs" No it can't. In the Islamic Koran, when it says "Therefore cut off their heads, and strike off all the ends of the fingers. This shall they suffer because they have opposed Allah and His Prophet, and whosoever shall oppose Allah and His Prophet, verily Allah will be severe in punishing them" it means to literally cut off someone's head etc. Why would a religion have words like these? what is the purpose of words like these? How does one read words like these and NOT interpret them as directives to killing? Your quoting of Old Testament quotes proves what? How many Jews or Christians have recently killed someone in the streets whilst shouting "glory to Moses" or "Praise to Jesus"?. It's an objective fact that Islam is by far the biggest -- both quantitatively and qualitatively -- of producing terrorists. ​You've also conveniently glossed over ONE BIG GLARING FACT either because it's inconvenient to your argument or because your just plain uneducated on it. Islam WAS FOUNDED by Jihad. Yep, Mohammed, the founder of Islam practiced Jihad. And since in Islam Mohammed is considered the perfect human form for ALL muslims to aspire to, then that means jihad is authenticated as righteous in Islam. Everything CAN'T be misinterpreted. Some words can be CORRECTLY INTERPRETED. Why is it when muslims produce yet another killing (there's been over 20,000+) Islamic terrorist attacks since 2001 we keep getting told "they're misinterpreting the text". They're not, because the text is saying TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
  6. Right, I agree. The human condition is flawed.We are built egoistically and therefore drawn to bad behaviours. That's why it is imperative that our society is free from hate since it is fundamental in shaping us and who we are. But there's only one way you can interpret words like these: Koran verse:(8.13) Therefore cut off their heads, and strike off all the ends of the fingers. This shall they suffer because they have opposed Allah and His Prophet, and whosoever shall oppose Allah and His Prophet, verily Allah will be severe in punishing them Not every muslim who reads verses like the above will go and kill. But the fact such hateful verses do exist in such large quantities in Islam's Holy Books means that the people who do read these words and do have the feelings to do bad things have the Islamic authority to do so. Remeber, in Islam, the Koran is the authority -- muslims don't believe is moral relativism or man made liberties. The truth is Allah. Allah is the truth. Mohammed was his messenger on earth. Mohammed was a jihadist therefore the prototype for all Islamic jihad is authenticated with him. If muslims are peace loving, why haven't they reformed their religion and removed every reference to killing from their books? What do they hope to achieve by allowing people to read and absorb that filth?
  7. A cult which uses liberal secular privileges in the host countries to further its own goal -- to install the global caliphate. That's why defenders of Islam and its jihad like runningrings use the liberal tactic of slurring people as bigots -- they hope to silence people from correctly pointing out certain truths about Islam.
  8. Did you edit your post from "You sad, demented human being." to "You sad, demented human being. You, and the guy on the picture. Both mentally-ill, weak, brainwashed individuals" to avoid accusations that yet again, as your posting history shows, you're more obsessed with attacking me as opposed to taking issue with the ACTUAL TERRORISTS? I agree about the brainwashing part -- these jihadists are brainwashed with Koranic hate. No wonder they act so badly. Do you have something against mentally ill people runningrings? It's just, that's at least twice you've labelled me that in this thread alone. It's not true but ofcourse you know that -- you're merely saying it to try and 'hurt' me because I had the audacity to challenge the liberal lies used to exonerate Islam from terrorist guilt. It speaks volumes that your anger is greater for me than it is towards the terrorists whom you have consistently made excuses for whilst simultaneously attacking anyone who dared point out facts.
  9. Nope. I do however know some religions have more merit than others. We only need to look at the world to see how one religion seems to outscore all others combined in the hate stakes. Were you hoping I was religious so you could say "but this religion does bad things"? Sorry, all religions are just mankind's attempt to make sense of the world. Most religions, whilst keeping tenets of their faith embrace the modern world. Islam is still partying like it's 700AD.
  10. Paul, you must have photoshopped it. How dare you insult Islam. (Sarcasm).
  11. Is this one contemporary enough for you: Or did someone hijack microsoft paint and 'misrepresent' this too? Wait, this must be taken out of context runningrings as you repeatedly keep saying.
  12. Obviously. I mean, as if Islam would write such horrible things -- it's the religion of peace afterall. I heard a rumour all the references to jihad in the Koran were written by this wee infidel jobby: You've been right all along runningrings. Islam has been hijacked.
  13. I know. Something about this crime is just so heartless -- because it was personal and done in such a public way.
  14. Beheading -- does that mean cutting your head off? Surely not, I'm probably just "misunderstand" or taking it "out of context"
  15. Baron, they'll be calling you an islamophobe for daring to not lick the proverbial sphincter of Islam.
  16. I will. You keep avoiding the questions because you can't answer. And tomorrow, you can go tell all your 'fabulous' Aussie liberal pals about this 'nutjob' on gamesbids who you debated because you just couldn't bare to see someone speak the truth misinterpret Islam.
  17. Paraphrase of runningrings' view: The Koran is misinterpreted by nutjobs. I don't know how it is but it just is. Even though the Koran tells muslims to kill infidels and they do it, those muslims are hijacking the religion. Right, even though jihad is mentioned repeatedly in the Koran and even though muslims practice jihad as physical violence against infidels, they're basically misinterpreting the Koran. Or something like that. In other news, apparently Big Ol' Heinrich stationed at the Aushwitz gas chambers misinterpreted Nazism................
  18. I asked a question. You never answered it. I answered your silly question with the silliness it deserved. Your retort : to attack me as mentally ill. Classy. You should be embarrassed -- your posts highlight your complete and utter disregard for the truth.
  19. How does one take this out of context when it is a directive to kill and not figurative: Koran verse:(8.13) Therefore cut off their heads, and strike off all the ends of the fingers. This shall they suffer because they have opposed Allah and His Prophet, and whosoever shall oppose Allah and His Prophet, verily Allah will be severe in punishing them Answer? I'll answer your silly question too. You asked:What do you propose to do with your fears? What is the solution to your hardline perspective? Where does it lead us?" My fears? I'll search deep within my soul and let the good Lord (not Allah) make everything better. Either that, I'll try and get an appointment with Dr Phil. There, you happy now? Great question by the way. It's really related tot the topic at hand.
  20. How do muslims, as you claimed in this thread misinterpret Koranic verses like this: Koran verse:(8.13) Therefore cut off their heads, and strike off all the ends of the fingers. This shall they suffer because they have opposed Allah and His Prophet, and whosoever shall oppose Allah and His Prophet, verily Allah will be severe in punishing them How do human beings misinterpret this verse?
  21. For the 1 millionth time: How do muslims misinterpret verses like you claim? Tick tick........
  22. Can I also just point out for those who may come into this thread: Runningrings and his mate Olympicfanjita have demanded I answer this (unrelated) question: What do you propose to do with your fears? What is the solution to your hardline perspective? Where does it lead us?" It's an absurd and irrelevant question not designed to further the debate.However, when I ask a question to runningrings, which is completely related to this topic, he looks for anyway to avoid it. You see, I'm the bad guy here -- not the two jihadist murderers who runningrings has looked to turn into victims because these muslims don't have their self determination/the economic crisis made them angry or some other such bollocks. Here's an example of a question I asked: Runningrings claimed people misinterpret Koranic verses. So, I naturally asked: How do muslims misinterpret verses in the Koran as you claim? Can you provide a scientific explanation of how these muslims read the words and misinterpret them even though they act out what the words say? That's a reasonable question to ask. He refuses to answer. Says it all really.
  23. How do muslims misinterpret verses in the Koran as you claim? Can you provide a scientific explanation of how these muslims read the words and misinterpret them even though they act out what the wrods say? How does someone misinterpret this: Moran verse:(8.13) Therefore cut off their heads, and strike off all the ends of the fingers. This shall they suffer because they have opposed Allah and His Prophet, and whosoever shall oppose Allah and His Prophet, verily Allah will be severe in punishing them Not think it strange that the Woolwich jihad attach involved two muslims trying to cut off Lee Rigby's head? Will you continue to dodge these questions because it requires you having to face up to the reality -- the Koran is awash with directives to kill infidels.
  24. Erm, Lee Rigby was actually murdered. No scapegoating. You and your Canadian BFF Olympicfanjita or whatever his name is only started to feign 'concern' after I pointed out that not once had you two shown any condolences towards the guy but you had in the meantime attacked Christianity, called anyone asking questions 'bigots' aswell as hounding me. Your latest silliness is to ask me a silly question about my fears. Em, the issue is not about me. I'm flattered you are trying to make it about me but this thread is about Lee Rigby and the culture of Islam because guess what, no amount of diversionary tacts can rewrite the facts -- Mr Rigby, an innocent man, was murdered by two evil jihadists. It's very telling that you are more concerned with defending 'misinterpratations' of jihad whilst not actually showing how muslims keep on Misinterpreting the Koran. And if it's such an issue for you the time at which i post comments (because you keep on mentioning it) can I suggest you don't KEEP ON REPLYING ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY TO ME. Hat tip.
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