The Pan Am Games

monorail · February 7, 2008

Poor Buffalo! That poor city is turning into a **** hole. Have any of you been there lately? I seriously would be surprised if they still have their NFL team in 10 years.

dave199 · February 14, 2008

I got my hands on some more information from my source. This is the working tentative venue plan.

Toronto Venues

Air Canada Centre – Basketball

Ashbridges Bay – Beach Volleyball

*BMO Field – Soccer, Modern Pentathlon

Convention Centre – Fencing, Judo

Direct Energy Centre – Badminton, Taekwondo, Table Tennis

Molson Amphitheatre – Weightlifting

Ontario Place – Triathlon

*Rexall Centre @ York University – Tennis

*Rioch Coliseum – Gymnastics, Rhythmic Gymnastics

*Rogers Centre – Baseball, Softball (Opening and Closing Ceremony)

Toronto Harbour – Sailing

*Varsity Field – Soccer, Athletics

*Western Beaches Race Course – Canoe, Rowing

York University – Soccer

*New or Upgraded since 2008 Bid

New Venues To Be Built

Velodrome – Cycling, Wrestling

The cheap plan would have the Rogers Centre host the Ceremonies and an upgraded Varsity stadium used for Athletics.

The expensive plan is to partner up with the NFL/Bills/Province to build a new waterfront stadium that would host the ceremonies and athletics. It will be the permanent home to the Toronto Bills of the NFL. This plan is only viable if the Bills are relocated to Toronto which looks pretty much set in stone at this time.

GTA – Hamilton Venues

Hershey Centre (Mississauga) – Volleyball, Field Hockey, Archery

Powerade Centre (Brampton) – Handball

Equestrian Centre (Caledon) – Equestrian

Ivor Wynne Stadium (Hamilton) – Soccer

Copps Coliseum (Hamilton) – Boxing

Hamilton Road Race Course (Hamilton) - Cycling

Twelve Mile Creek (St. Catherines) – Canoe

Skeet and Gun Club (Oshawa) - Shooting

New Venues To Be Built

Aquatics Centre (Markham) – Swimming, Diving, Synchronized Swimming, Water Polo

Athlete's Village

-Still has to be determined. One site that is being pegged first is by the waterfront off Queen's Quay

-It's next to the new site of George Brown College, Can be turned into dorms for students afterwards

Techno Dragon · February 15, 2008

What end of QQ could you fit an atheletes village on? I could see one in the Cherry Beach area, buts that way off of QQ.

Apple · February 16, 2008

The whole point of Hamilton doing this bid is to get a new stadium so obviously Ivor Wynne Stadium won't be a venue. Wouldn't the soccer go to BMO Field?

dave199 · February 16, 2008

The whole point of Hamilton doing this bid is to get a new stadium so obviously Ivor Wynne Stadium won't be a venue. Wouldn't the soccer go to BMO Field?

The point is Hamilton is not going to host the Athletics.

I'll ask my source if there is plans to build a new stadium there for the Ticats that would be host to the Soccer matches. From what I was told, the previous rumours of Athletic events being held in Hamilton is not true.

dave199 · February 17, 2008

What end of QQ could you fit an atheletes village on? I could see one in the Cherry Beach area, buts that way off of QQ.

I'll find out more information about that and I'll address that question as soon as I can.

jim jones · February 17, 2008

I'd like to see Kingstown host one day, it would add a significant boost to any Commonwealth Games or even possibly Olympic bids, where, the site of the 1966 British Empire and Commonwealth Games would be extensively redeveloped for the Pan Ams.

Yes Then Mike Fennel the president of the Commonwealth Games Federation and a major player in PASO could get his retirement send off gift for his home country of Jamaica just like Louise Martin did for Glasgow Scotland.

It would be odd Fennel inspecting Kingston for the Pan Am Games like he did with Rio in 2006. The Commonwealth Games Redevelopment from 1966? well considering they still have the national stadium with an IAAF Class One rating that is up to date as of oct 2007 unlike Scotland . Cardiff would probably bid and get it if not Hobart Tasmania for the Commonwealth Games. I heard that Kingston Jamaica is so dangerous that citizens have to Arm themselves with AK 47 s and then hide them when Canadians come to visit a major downtown Park .

South American cities actually have advanced bid research committees now. Lima Peru comes to mind as one that was sited by a Toronto newspaper report. Hamilton Ontario was told that by the Canadain Olympic Committee.

Right now unless there is a change in the Canadian government the Vancouver 2010 Games will probably be the last Sports festival with multiple events in Canada for many decades . The Tory government has basically turned down stadium funding for a mere 40 million share for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers as they see the cities of Regina, Hamilton and Ottawa would be at the troft to replace older stadiums. Then you have cities like Calgary and Edmonton with the desire to replace the real money making sports venues in Canada, National Hockey League Arenas. The United States does not seem interested in the Pan Am Games . Whens the last time any city hosted 1987 in Indianapolis? Not exactly a great city in the scheme of things as far as all of America. America is like Canada. They have done the olympics a few times with poor to great financial success. Why spend the money on games that don't do profits or you will not even pay the Tv rights for when they are in South America or south Australia as is the Case with the CWG2006. .

San Antonio might do it again but considering it is Spanish TV in the Americas that has any interest in broadcasting it maybe a hard one to justify considering the last hosting was 2 billion dollars in cost.

The 2007 Pan Am Games were basically blacked out in the US and Canada even thou Ironically it was an American Company with many Canadian Techs hired to do the broadcast services. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation was the world wide rights holder for the 2003 games at 10 million Us dollars and they lost the Taxpayers shirts on that Deal Hence why Melbourne 2006, it is rumored , had to Pay to have a highlight reel broadcast on the CBC.

Too many things in sport tv have emerged in North America for the Commonwealth Games or Pan Am Games to get any attention in the US or Canada.

A Fifa Cup like the U20 or U17 will more likely come to Canada as last year while the Pan AM games were blacked out in Canada we were hosting the U20 fifa Cup and breaking the attendance record for that event. Mexico held the attendance record at about 1,5 million ticket buyers You would think it was the world cup in Montreal . People in the upper americas are not interested in predictable domination even if it is the united states doing it . Pan Am get second and third tier American Athletes whom still dominate much of the games. 14 out of 15 times The USA has be the top medal winner in the games and only twice has the united states been best in 15 times for the gold medals won .

World Cup Soccer has Emerged , Nascar has gone big for the United States since the last Pan Am games hosting, Three Winter Olympics on North American Soil and one Summer Olympics since 1987 has had Americans not settling for a Faux Games the The Pan Ams. Gosh more people in North America would know Hoise Gracie for Ultimate fighting then any NBA basketball player from Brazil.

Jim Jones

thatsnotmypuppy · February 17, 2008

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baron-pierreIV · February 17, 2008

and I couldn't decide on which wallpaper to go with...

Apple · March 19, 2008

Decision near on Pan Am Games bid

Golden Horseshoe has good shot at 2015 event, Canadian Olympic Committee chief executive says

Mar 19, 2008 04:30 AM

Jim Byers

City Hall Bureau

A Canadian bid for the 2015 Pan American Games is southern Ontario's to win or lose. And a provincial decision on whether to back the bid could be made in the next three weeks.

Senior provincial officials have been poring over preliminary plans for a bid, and a high-ranking source said they like the idea of a bid that could mean new and improved sports facilities in Toronto, Mississauga, Markham and Niagara Region, and perhaps Durham Region.

"By early April, we hope the province can either stand up and say, `Yes, we're going forward,' or `No, we're not,'" said Toronto lawyer and Pan Am backer Doug Hamilton.

He said provincial officials are sitting down with municipalities and talking about the facilities already in place and those still needed should the 2015 games be held in southern Ontario.

"There's no requirements for the cities or the province to put up any cash at this stage, but the province is trying to get a better handle on potential capital and operating costs."

The Canadian Olympic Committee originally had planned on asking all Canadian cities if they'd be interested in staging a bid.

But COC chief executive Chris Rudge told the Star his group has opted to put all its Pan Am eggs in the Golden Horseshoe's basket. "It's somewhat unusual for us to do it this way, yes, but we recognize that southern Ontario has 30 to 35 per cent of the population of Canada and is one area of the country that is dramatically underserviced as far as sports facilities and infrastructure."

Rudge said the COC would like to know whether the province is interested in a bid before its April 12-14 board meeting in Calgary.

Queen's Park doesn't want to be seen focusing purely on Toronto, but they're said to like the optics of a Golden Horseshoe games.

No single city has the financial wherewithal to put on a sporting event like the Pan Am Games, which feature more than 30 sports and more than 5,000 athletes from 42 countries. But the plan being considered involves Toronto, Mar-kham, Hamilton, Mississauga and other cities. Rudge has said it could cost $1.5 billion or even $2 billion to stage the games in Ontario.

Having seen Toronto lose a pair of Olympic bids and Hamilton come up short in quests for the Commonwealth Games, provincial officials want to make sure a Pan Am bid is winnable before they proceed, a source said. COC representatives met with high-ranking Pan Am officials earlier this year and came away feeling Canada has a great shot at 2015.

Lima, Peru; Bogota, Colombia; and Caracas, Venezuela are believed to be interested as well.

Toronto Mayor David Miller said recently that it's too early to comment on a potential bid, although sources suggest he's in favour provided there's no major financial risk to the city.

Formal bids will probably need to be in by next January, with a vote to take place later in 2009.

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/347641

james · March 19, 2008

Thatsnotmypuppy, repeating Abuja#1 several times also makes it looked like a spam. Well, thank you for alluding to Abuja as number 1.

Tatsh · March 21, 2008

does some one know where is the web page of the ODEPA?

and when the 2015's host city will be announced?

rav3n · March 21, 2008

does some one know where is the web page of the ODEPA?
and when the 2015's host city will be announced?

I think it will be in 2010, one year before Guadalajara 2011 (like in 2006 when the mexican city was announced, one year before Rio 2007).

I think ODEPA had a website long time ago (during the 2003 games) but now it doesn't exist.

rjmac · March 22, 2008

A Toronto-Golden Horseshoe bid is interesting..... but I think this is a bit lofty!!!!

The City of Toronto and the Province of Ontario cannot come up with the money to keep School swimming pools open (they are considering closing down over 70 school swimming pools for lack of money) but those same levels of government seem to have the cash to entertain a bid (and this costs $$$$)

To let you know how hypocritical this is, the organizing committee will have to build a NEW swimming facility because there is nothing in the Golden Horseshoe BIG enough to run such an international event. Even if they come up with the money from business or other private sponsors, shouldn't that same effort be made to ensure that our children have the opportunities that they will be giving international visitors for a week or two????

I think that the money that would be spent on this endeavour should be kept local. If the money is there for the Pan Am games, there should be money for our own infrastructure before enbarking on this "flake" idea.

Faster · March 22, 2008

A Toronto-Golden Horseshoe bid is interesting..... but I think this is a bit lofty!!!!
The City of Toronto and the Province of Ontario cannot come up with the money to keep School swimming pools open (they are considering closing down over 70 school swimming pools for lack of money) but those same levels of government seem to have the cash to entertain a bid (and this costs $$$$)

To let you know how hypocritical this is, the organizing committee will have to build a NEW swimming facility because there is nothing in the Golden Horseshoe BIG enough to run such an international event. Even if they come up with the money from business or other private sponsors, shouldn't that same effort be made to ensure that our children have the opportunities that they will be giving international visitors for a week or two????

I think that the money that would be spent on this endeavour should be kept local. If the money is there for the Pan Am games, there should be money for our own infrastructure before enbarking on this "flake" idea.

For one thing there are only schools in Toronto that have swimming pools and the Ministry of Education has deemed them unnecessary school infrastructure that will not be supported in lieu of important infrastructure like rebuilding the CI high schools that have been crumbling for more then a decade now. The government has put nearly 6 million dollars into fixing three of the them I know of (Brantford Collegiate Institute, Kitchener Collegiate Institute and Galt Collegiate Institute). There is money for our school systems (they provincial budget is now in surplus) but support unnecessary things like community pools on offer for free to Toronto residents when all other government pools I know are a pay per-use is not one of them. I went to a high school that did not have a pool, yet swimming was still apart of my physical education classes curriculum.

Also the assumption that the Golden Horseshoe does not have Olympic caliber pools is false. I know of ones in St. Catherines at Brock University and one at York University that has served as a venue for national competition, it was used for the Olympic Trails heading into Athens. The problem with these venues is that they do not have the space for the required seating.

Also the assumption that a Olympic caliber venue for aquatics would only be of use for international guests is laughable, any aquatics venue, something that the Canadian Olympic Committee was desired for some years now in Toronto, would be used as a national training center and a place for high level swimmers to train and become higher level athletes.

One of the major problems with Canadian summer sport is our lack of high quality venues for training. I marvel at athletes like Lori-Ann Muenzer and Curt Hartnett who have won Olympic medals in track cycling, despite the only two world class velodromes we have being turned into nonsense. And there are many other examples of athletes winning despite the presence of venues worthy of potential Olympic champions.

The COC was furious with the Canadian CWG Committee for politically choosing Halifax, instead of rightfully picking Ottawa, who could have probably won and it would have been used to build the venues needed to propel Canadian summer athletes to the heights a nation of our population and affluence should be winning, far more medals than the nonsense we have in Sydney and Athens anyways. If we win at Beijing, and I have a strong suspicion that our results will be in the Atlanta range of 22 and even as many as 5 to 8 golds, it will be despite our governments best efforts to not support summer sport in this country.

A concentrated Pan American Games in Toronto that will leave a legacy that would be far more useful and a greater impact on our sports infrastructure then when we hosted in 1999 in Winnipeg and when Victoria hosted the Commonwealth Games in 1994.

A 1-2 of the 2015 Pan American Games in Toronto and 2018 Commonwealth Games in Ottawa would do wonders for sport in this country and shift training and COC operations to the center of the country while still maintaining and improving all-ready existing national training centers in Victoria for rowing, Halifax for canoe/kayaking, Montreal for diving, synchronized swimming and the BC interior for mountain biking.

Apple · April 2, 2008

Bid for Pan-Ams looking good for province, Hamilton

April 01, 2008

By JOHN KERNAGHAN

The Hamilton Spectator

Hamilton’s role in a southern Ontario Pan-American Games bid is gathering steam.

It’s now on the fast track, with the Ontario government taking the lead in finding a way to win the 2015 showcase.

“I’m pumped, this is as good a bid proposal involving Hamilton has looked at this stage of the game,” sports activist Dr. Gene Sutton said Tuesday.

Sutton, a board member of the Canadian Olympic Committee, said the Ontario government’s lead role and the COC designating southern Ontario as Canada’s bid site gives the 2015 initiative a jump-start.

“Now we hope we can have commitments from Ontario and the federal government when the COC board meets April 11.”

Then the board could decisively confirm the push for the 2015 Games.

Sutton, of Ancaster, ignited the Games push last fall when she convinced prominent local businessmen like David Braley, Ron Foxcroft and Tiger-Cats owner Bob Young to help the campaign.

The city’s Pan-Am point man says the bid looks good so far.

“It’s positive on all fronts, though there are still lots of questions to answer,” said David Adames, the city’s representative on a committee which spans cities from Oshawa to Niagara Falls.

Adames, the director of Tourism Hamilton, will ask city council Monday for authorization to keep up Hamilton’s pursuit of a piece of the Games.

A share of the Pan-Ams, which feature more than 30 sports and 5,000 athletes, could mean a new stadium, improvements for Copps Coliseum and events at expanded facilities at McMaster University.

http://www.thespec.com/News/article/348241

jim jones · April 2, 2008

Thatsnotmypuppy, repeating Abuja#1 several times also makes it looked like a spam. Well, thank you for alluding to Abuja as number 1.

Abuja the Best kept secret in the commonwealth. Now finally with full google earth imaging LOL.

Jim jones

jim jones · April 2, 2008

A Toronto-Golden Horseshoe bid is interesting..... but I think this is a bit lofty!!!!
The City of Toronto and the Province of Ontario cannot come up with the money to keep School swimming pools open (they are considering closing down over 70 school swimming pools for lack of money) but those same levels of government seem to have the cash to entertain a bid (and this costs $$$$)

To let you know how hypocritical this is, the organizing committee will have to build a NEW swimming facility because there is nothing in the Golden Horseshoe BIG enough to run such an international event. Even if they come up with the money from business or other private sponsors, shouldn't that same effort be made to ensure that our children have the opportunities that they will be giving international visitors for a week or two????

I think that the money that would be spent on this endeavour should be kept local. If the money is there for the Pan Am games, there should be money for our own infrastructure before enbarking on this "flake" idea.

Well David Miller the Mayor of Toronto has weighed in on the Pan AM Games for 2015 and it will have no funding from the GTA because the GTA indeed does not have the money. Considering Winnipeg got a 30 million is the upper limit for federal funding on a new stadium for their Canadian Football League

Team I would say that it would have to be Hamilton that does an Aquatics Centre at 60 million plus dollars. Toronto could certainly be involved with no Capital or operations money with the amount of new Sports Venues they have. That would require Ted Rogers and Maple Leaf Entertainment to loan the Rogers Centre, BMO Field, Ricoh Arena and the Air Canada Centre to the Games. Highly doubtful for the Sky dome as it could not fit an Track and Field surface in and you are looking at the middle of the major league Baseball season . Unless you have a New Baseball park for the Blue Jays by 2015 Rogers Centre/Skydome would be out. Of course the Blue Jays could be moved to another city by 2015 as well.

Pan AM Games, Commonwealth Games too many demands for taxpayers money and what would they get a new aquatics centre? There is not a chance of profits for an OC or the Taxpayers. Multi sports festivals especially ones that don't do ratings on Canadian Tv to the point Canadian TV will not take them for Broadcast unless Paid are not going to inspire Canadian Cities to bid. The days of biding on 2 billion dollar plus multi sports games may be over with Vancouver 2010. The only things I see Canada hosting in the future are Winter sports events, the Universiade and junior Fifa Tournaments. Many a Canadian City has been burnt in Canada by these European run circuses. Fina did it to Montreal in 2005 , the North Ontario City of Thunder Bay was burnt in the mid 1990's by the world federation in charge of Nordic combined. The demands are out of wack with the benefits. Even the World Junior Hockey Tournament recently had the cities of London and Windsor Ontario drop out of biding because the tournament demands a 10 million dollar guarantee and then anything above that goes to Hockey Canada. If you have to use fuzzy logic of spin offs for a city to recoup money invested then you will not see Canadian cities diving in. Except for maybe the Idiotic City of Halifax Nova Scotia which is having its own reality check these days.

Jim Jones

Apple · April 2, 2008

Stadium a Pan Am benefit

John Kernaghan

Toronto Star

(Apr 2, 2008)

Premier Dalton McGuinty is game for a proposed local bid for the 2015 Pan American Games.

"We think it's worth taking a good look at. We haven't seen any details yet, don't exactly know what it would involve, but we think it's something that we should closely examine," McGuinty told reporters yesterday at Queen's Park.

"It could mean that not only would it help us further put Toronto and region on the international map, it could also act as a catalyst for some important new build -- infrastructure and the like -- so we think it's worthwhile taking a look at," he said.

But McGuinty said any potential bid by cities around the Golden Horseshoe for the Games would need help from Ottawa.

Rival bids from Lima, Peru, Bogota, Colombia, and Caracas, Venezuela, would give a GTA or Golden Horseshoe effort a run for its money.

But the games, which boast participation by 40 nations from North America, South America and the Caribbean, are a major spectacle in this hemisphere and relatively inexpensive at about $2 billion compared with a summer Olympic Games.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger termed the bid push promising.

He noted the idea of sharing financial risks across several cities as well as the reward of new and improved facilities was welcome after Hamilton's two failed Commonwealth Games bids.

On those occasions, the city was the only partner outside of the provincial and federal governments.

Hamilton's David Adames noted the initiative took a big step forward recently when the Canadian Olympic Committee, which is responsible for Pan American Games matters in Canada, decided to pass on a domestic bidding process and award rights to southern Ontario.

The COC made that unprecedented move because Canada's most populous region is underserved in terms of sports and recreation facilities.

And if the two senior levels of government confirm support, it will save the developing bid group time and money, as much as $1 million required to win a national competition.

It is a bittersweet development for Dr. Gene Sutton, an Ancaster member of the COC, and Adames, who were part of Hamilton's 2005 Commonwealth bid.

Principals in that bid thought they had been awarded Canada's bidding rights on merit. But Commonwealth Games Canada changed direction, held a competition and awarded the rights to Halifax. The Nova Scotia capital left Canada with a black eye when it withdrew late in the global bidding war owing to suspect financing.

The big bonus in a 2015 Games would be a stadium, likely seating about 30,000. With Ivor Wynne Stadium crumbling, "the stadium is the jewel, of course," said Adames, the director of Tourism Hamilton.

The new stadium would be a site for soccer and rugby while Copps Coliseum could house basketball, gymnastics or boxing.

If won, a successful Pan Am Games could form the basis of a future bid for the Summer Olympics.

dave199 · April 2, 2008

My contact within Toronto municipal government is currently in a meeting regarding this potential Pan Am bid. If I find out anything interesting from him tonight I'll share it. He told me earlier that the new Toronto stadium is still in the works but being kept hush for now because they don't want to turn off the general public due to the costs.

dave199 · April 3, 2008

A SPORTING CHANCE FOR TOURISM

Miller backs potential bid for 2015 Pan Am Games

JENNIFER LEWINGTON

April 2, 2008

An Ontario bid for the 2015 Pan American Games, with events across the Golden Horseshoe, would be "very good" for Toronto, Mayor David Miller said yesterday.

He made his comments after Premier Dalton McGuinty again signalled the province's interest in a bid next year for the amateur games.

"We think it's worth taking a good look at," the Premier said yesterday at Queen's Park. "We haven't seen details but ... it's something we should closely examine."

Mr. McGuinty said the event would help put Toronto and surrounding region on the map, adding he would like to "chat with the feds" about infrastructure funding to leave a sports legacy for communities.

Government-sponsored events such as the Games are often seen as a way to boost tourism. But private investors can play a large role in sporting events, as well as cultural events and other attractions. Last week, for example, Toronto was named as one of the host cities for the 2009 World Baseball Classic, a commercial venture of Major League Baseball.

"The future is about how to do both better," said Ontario MPP Greg Sorbara, the influential former finance minister tapped to spur the global competitiveness of the province's $20-billion tourism industry.

Beyond his personal passion for the game, Mr. Sorbara said, the World Baseball Classic is "the kind of activity we want to encourage and promote."

Though private-sector driven, the event would also derive benefits for the region through government tourism marketing. "Most of this stuff is driven by the private sector, even when the public sector has a catalytic role to play," he said.

Toronto Blue Jays president Paul Godfrey led the charge to bring first-round play in the World Baseball Classic here next March. He sees "massive untapped potential" for other new attractions that blend public and private dollars.

"To keep Toronto fresh, alive and vibrant, you have to have a number of events going on all the time," he said. "We are missing some."

The former Metro Toronto chairman, still a go-to figure in the political life of the city, dreams of a National Football League franchise here and backs efforts to revive the Grand Prix auto race next year.

"Government is not going to bring in the car race; it is a commercial enterprise," he said. "Government is not going to build an aquarium and government is not going to bring in an NFL team."

Figuring out the right mix of public and private investment is a key issue for Mr. Sorbara. "If we are successful here," he said of his study, which is due next March, "the public sector will act as a stimulus and we will see a new generation of private sector investment."

One example of a public-private venture is the $62.9-million soccer stadium at Exhibition Place, built with federal, provincial and city government dollars along with money from Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, for the 2007 FIFA under-20 World Cup soccer tournament.

BMO Field is city-owned but managed by MLSE. In the first eight months of operations in 2007, the stadium generated $900,000 in profits, split 50-50 between the city and MLSE.

Richard Peddie, president of MLSE, is interested in future shared ventures. "We can really help in that area," he said.

The company has invested $450-million in Maple Leaf Square, under construction, with a boutique hotel, sports store and sports bar set to open in 2010.

He says MLSE has ambitious plans to play host to one big sports event almost every year. He hopes the city and province will back bids to land an NBA all-star game (possibly in 2011) or the world junior hockey championships in 2012.

"In each case, these are not money-makers," he said. "We will request government help."

He added that U.S. cities "really step up" financially for such events because of the payback: hotels filled with out-of-town tourists with money to spend and a media spotlight on the city.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...tional/Ontario/

Faster · April 3, 2008

That douche is such a flip-flopper.

dave199 · April 3, 2008

That douche is such a flip-flopper.

Oh well. I'm looking forward to see the official plans to see how different it is to what I've been told.

Tatsh · April 3, 2008

I think it will be in 2010, one year before Guadalajara 2011 (like in 2006 when the mexican city was announced, one year before Rio 2007).
I think ODEPA had a website long time ago (during the 2003 games) but now it doesn't exist.

que decepcionante :mellow:

Apple · April 7, 2008

Pan Am bid gains strength

Hamilton tourism report likes joint bid with Toronto; urges city to get on board

April 07, 2008

John Kernaghan

The Hamilton Spectator

Hamilton's latest dip of the toe in the international sports pool is warmer than past tests, says city councillor Tom Jackson.

"My political sense of this is that Hamilton is really appreciated this time, that Hamilton is wanted."

Jackson made the comment as a report on the city's role in a bid for the 2015 Pan American Games became available Friday.

He was comparing the feel around a multi-city bid to the rejections Hamilton suffered in trying to get the 2010 and 2014 Commonwealth Games.

The Pan American Games are held every four years and are for countries of the Western Hemisphere. They were last held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, last year and will be in Mexico in 2011.

A report prepared by Tourism Hamilton director David Adames will explain to city councillors today why Hamilton should forge ahead as part of a southern Ontario bid group centred by Toronto and spanning Oshawa to Niagara Falls.

Adames backed Jackson's assessment, noting Steeltown is seen as an important anchor of the bid.

"I'm confident we should pursue the opportunity right now," said Jackson, adding scrutiny will get more intense once dollar figures are assigned to the bid proposal.

Momentum for the estimated $1.5- to $2-billion Games has picked up steam recently as the Ontario government assumed a leadership role in examining a Golden Horseshoe Games.

Also, the Canadian Olympic Committee (COC) is expected to bypass the usual domestic bidding process to hand Canadian rights directly to a southern Ontario bid group.

That's because Canada's most populous region desperately needs more sports and recreation facilities, some feel.

Ontario has staged only one multi-sport showcase, Hamilton's 1930 British Empire Games.

An endorsement by city council to keep pursuing a piece of the 2015 Pan Ams would come as the COC prepares to meet next weekend and vote to back the Golden Horseshoe bid.

Canadian Olympic Committee officials are working feverishly to bring the blessing of the Ontario government to their session.

Adames' report said Hamilton has been joined in exploratory talks by Toronto, Burlington, Oakville, Mississauga and Markham as well as Niagara and Durham Regions in meetings with provincial and COC officials.

He stressed the shared risks and rewards of a broad-based bid and noted Hamilton could benefit from a new stadium to replace decaying Ivor Wynne and improvements to Copps Coliseum.

Adams cites other benefits such as:

* An enhanced image and profile nationally and internationally.

* International ties with the 40-plus countries in the Pan-Am movement.

* New focus on urban regeneration projects.

* Developing tourism around sports events.

* Promoting healthy lifestyles and recreational sport development.

* Fostering community engagement and civic pride

* Providing economic and cultural development through construction projects and cultural exchange programs.

The Adames' report asks for his department to act as liaison with other cities in southern Ontario and to create an inter-department staff committee to work on the initiative.

That would include financial implications as the bid proceeds. The basic math now for a $2-billion Games would see the federal and provincial governments covering 70 per cent or $1.4 billion.

The remaining $600 million would be covered by Games revenues from sponsorships, ticket and merchandise sales, broadcasting revenues and the shares picked up by eight municipalities.

There are two possible snags to the bid's development.

One is that some Canadian cities could object to the Golden Horseshoe area getting exclusive bidding rights.

But Gerald Ouellette of the Winnipeg Sports Council doubts that will happen.

"I think this is a one-time situation and that it is understood the Games are to be shared across Canada and Ontario has not had any."

Another outside possibility is that Sport Canada, which has a national Games hosting policy, would recommend Canada bid for the World University Games instead of the Pan Am Games.

But that would be contrary to Sport Canada's mandate, which is to maximize sports and recreation opportunities for Canadians.

The Pan Ams develop many new and improved facilities while the University Games generally use existing arenas and fields.

The 2015 Pan Am sites will be determined next year. Already bidding are Peru, Colombia, and Venezuela.

A successful Pan Am Games could form the basis of a future bid for the Summer Olympics.

http://www.thespec.com/Sports/Local%20Sports/article/350821

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