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Ok, accept the Sandstorm sequence. To the issue of the cauldron!

I think it should be placed INSIDE. Its good for a enclosed stadium.

The stadium in Busan (Korea) is enclosed like the Bird's Nest. In my opinion, this is how the Bird's Nest would look on TV on the opening and closing ceremonies:

Clip: 2002 Asian Games Opening and Closing Ceremony (Closing Ceremony begins at 4:26 on clip 1)

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Anyone guess which parts are similar to the Seoul Olympic ceremonies?

As for the flame lighting, how did that Busan flame reach the cauldron? The broadcast did not show it!

Thanks for those clips.

I think that's how Beijing will light its cauldron, except it would then rise in the air to however high it can go. That's about all you can do in stadia as enclosed as these are.

Your Clip #1 shows the lighting of the cauldron at 4:09.

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Your Clip #1 shows the lighting of the cauldron at 4:09.

I believe that olympics08 didn't mean the small cauldron in the centre of the field, but the tall one beside the running track which can be seen (for example) at 5:47 in the first clip.

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I believe that olympics08 didn't mean the small cauldron in the centre of the field, but the tall one beside the running track which can be seen (for example) at 5:47 in the first clip.

Oh. I didn't watch the whole thing. Looking at the Closing C clip, it's clear that it's not the same red cauldron as the one lit on the field. So I can only guess that they did an Albertville-Atlanta guidewire m.o. If you will look at the close-ups of the field cauldron, there were guidewires attached to it. So that's how they might've done the transfer of the flame.

The Bird's Nest canopy seems to be a much lower overhang than Busan's.

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I have been trying to find out about the Parade of Nations during the Opening Ceremony, and the order of the participants

I made this list with what I found on the internet, if anybody has more info, let me know

1 GRE xi la Greece

2 ALB a er ba ni ya Albania

3 ALG a er ji li a Algeria

4 AFG a fu han Afghanistan

5 ARG a gen ting Argentina

6 UAE a la bo lian he qiu chang guo United Arab Emirates

7 ARU a lu ba Aruba

8 OMA a man Oman

9 AZE a sai bai jiang Azerbaijan

10 IRL ai er lan Ireland

11 EGY ai ji Egypt

12 ETH ai sai e bi ya Ethiopia

13 EST ai sha ni ya Estonia

14 AND an dao er Andorra

15 ANG an ge la Angola

16 ANT an ti gua he ba bu da Antigua and Barbuda

17 AUS ao da li ya Australia

18 AUT ao di li Austria

19 BAR ba ba duo si Barbados

20 PNG ba bu ya xin ji nei ya Papua New Guinea

21 BAH ba ha ma The Bahamas

22 PAK ba ji si tan Pakistan

23 PAR ba la gui Paraguay

24 PLE ba le si tan Palestine

25 BRN ba lin Baharein

26 PAN ba na ma Panama

27 BRA ba xi Brazil

28 BLR bai e luo si Belarus

29 BER bai mu da Bermuda

30 BUL bao jia li ya Bulgaria

31 PRK bei han Korea People's Republic

32 BEN bei ning Benin

33 BEL bi li shi Belgium

34 PER bi lu Peru

35 ISL bing dao Iceland

36 BOT bo ci wa na Botswana

37 PUR bo duo li ge Puerto Rico

38 POL bo lan Poland

39 BOL bo li wei ya Bolivia

40 BIZ bo li zi Belize

41 BIH bo si ni ya - hei se ge wei na Bosnia and Herzegovina

42 BHU bu dan Bhutan

43 BUR bu ji na fa suo Burkina Faso

44 GEQ chi dao ji nei ya Equatorial Guinea

45 DEN dan mai Denmark

46 GER de guo Germany

47 TLS dong di wen East Timor

48 TOG duo ge Togo

49 DOM duo mi ni jia gong he guo Dominican Republic

50 DMA duo ming ni jia Dominica

51 ECU e gua duo er Ecuador

52 ERI e li te li ya Eritrea

53 RUS e luo si Russia

54 FRA fa guo France

55 FIJ fei ji Fiji

56 PHI fei lu bin Philippines

57 FIN fen lan Finland

58 CPV fo de jiao Cape Verde

59 GAM gan bi ya Gambia

60 CGO gang guo gong he guo Republic of Congo

61 COD gang guo min zhu gong he guo Democratic Republic of Congo

62 GEO ge lu ji ya Georgia

63 COL ge lun bi ya Colombia

64 GRN ge na da Grenada

65 CRC ge si da li jia Costa Rica

66 CUB gu ba Cuba

67 GUA gua di ma la Guatemala

68 GUY gui ya na Guyana

69 KAZ ha sa ke si tan Kazakhstan

70 HAI hai di Haiti

71 KOR han guo Republic of Korea

72 NED he lan Netherlands

73 MNE hei shan Montenegro

74 HON hong du la si Honduras

75 DJI ji bu ti Djibouti

76 KGZ ji er ji si si tan Kirgystan

77 KIR ji li ba si Kiribati

78 GUI ji nei ya Guinea

79 GHA jia na Ghana

80 CAN jia na da Canada

81 GAB jia peng Gabon

82 CAM jian pu zhai Cambodia

83 CZE jie ke gong he guo Czech Republic

84 ZIM jin ba bu wei Zimbabwe

85 CMR ka mai long Cameroon

86 CRO ke luo di ya Croatia

87 CIV ke te di wa Cote d'Ivoire

88 KUW ke wei te Kuwait

89 KEN ken ni ya Kenya

90 LAT la tuo wei ya Latvia

91 LES lai suo tuo Lesotho

92 LAO lao wo Laos

93 LIB li ba nen Lebanon

94 LBR li bi li ya Liberia

95 LBA li bi ya Libya

96 LTU li tao wan Lithuania

97 LIE lie zhi dun shi deng Liechtenstein

98 LUX lu sen bao Luxembourg

99 RWA lu wang da Rwanda

100 ROU luo ma ni ya Romania

101 MAD ma da jia si jia Madagascar

102 MDV ma er dai fu Maldives

103 MLT ma er ta Malta

104 MAW ma la wei Malawi

105 MAS ma lai xi ya Malaysia

106 MLI ma li Mali

107 MKD ma qi dun Macedonia

108 MHL ma shao er qun dao Marshall Islands

109 MRI mao li qiu si Mauritius

110 MTN mao li ta ni ya Mauritania

111 USA mei guo United States of America

112 MGL meng gu Mongolia

113 BAN meng jia la guo Bangladesh

114 FSM mi ke luo ni xi ya Micronesia

115 MYA mian dian Myanmar

116 MDA mo er duo wa Moldova

117 MAR mo luo ge Morocco

118 MON mo na ge Monaco

119 MOZ mo sang bi ke Mozambique

120 MEX mo xi ge Mexico

121 NAM na mi bi ya Namibia

122 RSA nan fei South Africa

123 NRU nao lu Nauru

124 NEP ni bo er Nepal

125 NCA ni jia la gua Nicaragua

126 NIG ni ri er Niger

127 NGR ni ri li ya Nigeria

128 NOR nuo wei Norway

129 PLW pa lao Palau

130 BDI pu long di Burundu

131 POR pu tao ya Portugal

132 QAT qia ta er Qatar

133 JPN ri ben Japan

134 SWE rui dian Sweden

135 SUI rui shi Switzerland

136 ESA sa er wa duo El Salvador

137 SAM sa mo ya Samoa

138 SRB sai er wei ya Serbia

139 SLE sai la li ang Sierra Leone

140 SEY sai she er Seychelles

141 SEN se nei jia er Senegal

142 CYP se pu lu si Cyprus

143 KSA sha te a la bo Saudi Arabia

144 STP sheng duo mei pu lin xi bi Sao Tome and Principe

145 SKN sheng ji ci he ni wei si Saint Kitts and Nevis

146 LCA sheng lu xi ya Saint Lucia

147 SMR sheng ma li nuo San Marino

148 VIN sheng wen sen te he ge lin na ding si Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

149 SWZ shi wa ji lan Swaziland

150 SRI si li lan ka Sri Lanka

151 SLO si luo wen ni ya Slovenia

152 SVK si luo wen ni ya Slovakia

153 SUD su dan Sudan

154 SUR su li nan Suriname

155 SOM suo ma li Somalia

156 TJK ta ji ke si tan Tajikistan

157 THA tai guo Thailand

158 TPE tai wan Taipei

159 TAN tan sang ni ya Tanzania

160 TRI te li ni da he duo ba ge Trinidad and Tobago

161 TUR tu er qi Turkey

162 TKM tu ku man Turkmenistan

163 TUN tu ni si Tunisia

164 TUV tu wa lu Tuvalu

165 VAN wa nu a tu Vanuatu

166 VEN wei nei rui la Venezuela

167 BRU wen lai da lu sa lan gui Brunei

168 UGA wu gan da Uganda

169 UKR wu ke lan Ukraine

170 URU wu la gui Uruguay

171 UZB wu zi bie ke si tan Uzbekistan

172 ESP xi ban ya Spain

173 HKG xiang gang Hong Kong

174 SIN xin jia po Sngapore

175 NZL xin xi lan New Zeland

176 HUN xiong ya li Hungary

177 SYR xu li ya Syria

178 JAM ya mai jia Jamaica

179 ARM ya mei ni ya Armenia

180 YEM ye men Yemen

181 ITA yi da li Italy

182 IRQ yi la ke Iraq

183 IRI yi lang Iran

184 ISR yi se lie Israel

185 IND yin du India

186 INA yin du ni xi ya Indonesia

187 GBR ying guo United Kingdom

188 JOR yue dan Jordan

189 VIE yue nan Vietnam

190 ZAM zan bi ya Zambia

191 CHA zha de Chad

192 CHI zhi li Chile

193 CAF zhong fei gong he guo Central African Republic

194 AHO Netherland Antilles

195 ASA American Samoa

196 CAY Cayman Islands

197 COK Cook Islands

198 COM Comoros

199 GBS Guinea-Bissau

200 GUM Guam

201 ISV US Virgin Islands

202 IVB British Virgin Islands

203 SOL Solomon Islands

204 TGA Tonga

205 CHN zhiong guo China

Couldn't find the ones for the last 11 committees.

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You shouldn't worry about it.

#1 - Your list above is based on Chinese pronunciation but the Chinese alphabet does NOT follow the Latin a -b -c - d - e order.

(Funny, looks like they do not enuniciate "R".)

#2 - An indeterminate number of the countries might not even march in; and

#3 - since the Chinese read from right to left, everyone will be marching in backwards, :lol:

So, I wouldn't worry your pretty head about it at all.

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Liu Xian, winner of China's first gold in Men's Athletics in Athens and current record holder in the 110m hurdlers, was the first torch bearer on Chinese soil in Beijing on Monday. Does that pretty much rule him out as the final torchbearer at the OC in August?

I've always thought it could be him, or another such Chinese athlete, or one of those teenage gymnasts.

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I guess it could go either way. Either it would totally count him out, or it would form a perfect symetry, of having the first torch bearer on Chinese soil to also be the last.

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I think this is how all will go... I dreamt of this last night...

1. Countdown/Welcome to Beijing - Performers forming flags of the participating countries and the Dancing Beijing emblem. Then we'll see 5 gift boxes (Olympic colors) unwrapped to reveal the five Fuwa.

2. Welcome Comrade* Hu Jintao with Liu Qi and Jacques Rogge.

3. National Anthem

Vocal for the 2007 Special Olympics in Shanghai

Instrumental from the morning broadcast of the anthem on CCTV-1. Also shown before the seven o'clock evening news.

4. History of China - A "Child of Light" accompanied by 5 snails (Olympic colors) travel through China 5,000-year history.

5. All about Beijing - includes an (Beijing) opera performance.

6. A Beijing Olympic song will be performed as "Chidren of Light"-like lanterns will enter the stadium.

7. Olympic Sports - performers clad in red form the pictograms of theBeijing Olympic sports.

8. Past Olympics - runners carrying red flags with the names of the past Olympic host cities written on them. They will then make two lines from the east gate where the athletes will enter. The runner with a flag with "Beijing" written on it will lead the parade.

9. Parade of Athletes - in the order above, but I recommend the English alphabet to be used.

10. Another Beijing Olympic song will be peformed as spectators on the east stand will make a map of the world made from flashlights.

11. Official Opening/Speeches by Liu Qi, Jacques Rogge and Hu Jintao.

12. Olympic Flag and Olympic Hymn - it will be performed in Chinese, of course. Here's the words (with pinyin):

Gudài古代bùxiu不朽zhī之shén神,

Měilì美丽、wěidà伟大ér而zhèngzhí正直de的shèng圣jié洁zhī之fù父。

Qíqiú祈求jiànglìn降临chénshì尘世yi以zhāngxian彰显zìji自己,

Ràng让shòu受rén人zhimù瞩目de的yīngxióng英雄zài在zhè这dàdì大地cāng苍qióng穹zhīzhōng之中,

Zuò作wéi为ni你róngyào荣耀de的jiànzhèng见证。

Qing请zhàoliàng照亮paobù跑步、jiaolì角力yu与tóuzhì投掷xiàngmù项目,

Zhèxie这些quánlìyifù全力以赴de的chónggāo崇高jìngsài竞赛。

Ba把yòng用ganlanzhī橄榄枝biān编chéng成de的huāguàn花冠bān颁zèng赠gěi给yōushèng优胜zhě者,

Sùzào塑造chū出gāngtiě钢铁bān般de的qūgàn躯干。

Xī溪gu谷、shān山yuè岳、haiyáng海洋yu与ni你xiāng相yìng映shēng生huī辉,

Yóurú犹如yi以sècai色彩bān斑lán斓de的yánshí岩石jiànchéng建成de的shén神diàn殿。

Zhè这jùdà巨大de的shén神diàn殿,

Shìjiè世界gèdì各地de的rénmen人们dōu都lái来mó膜bài拜,

A啊!Yongyuan永远bùxiude不朽的gudài古代zhī之shén神。

13. Official Oaths

14. Message of Peace (something like this?)

14. Arrival of Flame/Cauldron Lighting - Maybe the same as Busan

15. Finale/Fireworks - Another Beijing Olympics song will be sung. The boy with the lantern and other children and the five snails as well as those who performed during the artistic section of the ceremony will surround the singer as fireworks light up the stadium's surrondings.

Now, what do you think?

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I think this is how all will go... I dreamt of this last night...

1. Countdown/Welcome to Beijing - Performers forming flags of the participating countries and the Dancing Beijing emblem. Then we'll see 5 gift boxes (Olympic colors) unwrapped to reveal the five Fuwa.

Now, what do you think?

Uhmmm, I'll give you a little teaser tonight.

Part One.

"... forming flags of the participating countries..."? :blink: How long would that take? There are 200+ nations, so this number alone would take more than 1 hour. Also, granting this portion is even feasible, after a number of nations have now signified they will boycott the Opening Ceremony; and you expect BOCOG to feature THEIR flags as part of the OC? Hmmmm. I would go back to the drawing board for that.

In any case, it is known that they will open with projections of smiles of chidren the world over. They supposedly harnessed some 10,000 images for that. (Kinda "It's a Small World After All" for me; but we shall see.)

"5 gift boxes?" Would this be - a TV quiz show? THE PRICE IS RIGHT? :blink:

The thing, O'08, for Olympic Ceremonies content is to expect the UNEXPECTED. It takes many teams MANY months -- at least 1 year -- to formulate the creative plans -- so it's not easy for outsiders to second-guess what will be presented. Plus, with the ever-changing pace of events leading up to August, I would think their plans will be kept somewhat fluid.

Will get back to you tomorrow on the rest of my resposne since it's pretty late where I'm at.

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First of all: You dreamt the complete course of the opening ceremony? When I dream, I usually see only short sequences (not of Olympic ceremonies -- I never dreamt of them) which, when put together, make no sense at all. So congratulations that your dreams are so elaborate and logical! ;)

Secondly: I don't expect the "children of light" and especially "past Olympic host cities" segments again. Already Salt Lake City and Athens (at the closing ceremony) had that "children of light" thing, and I don't think that Zhang Yimou will copy that. I think that children will play a certain role in the ceremony, but not as "light carriers". Especially they won't copy the thing with the flags bearing the names of the past host cities. They already had that in Barcelona, Atlanta, Salt Lake and Athens. So we had definitely enough of that segment -- it would be a total lack of originality if they did it for a fifth time. Olympic ceremonies shouldn't be that predictable. And I also don't think that there will be a "Message of Peace" segment again -- it already sucked in Torino (especially due to abominable Yoko Ono), so why repeat it?

Thirdly: The audience forming the world map with flashlights would be a nice idea, although it's pretty similar to the alleged world map projection on the big cloth above the athletes' heads in Athens (the projection which was actually never shown on television -- or at least I've never recognised it in all the broadcasts and clips I've seen).

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#1 - Your list above is based on Chinese pronunciation but the Chinese alphabet does NOT follow the Latin a -b -c - d - e order.

(Funny, looks like they do not enuniciate "R".)

Does the Chinese language actually have an alphabet? The Japanese language doesn't -- and that's why they used the English alphabet in Nagano.

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Does the Chinese language actually have an alphabet? The Japanese language doesn't -- and that's why they used the English alphabet in Nagano.

Chinese pronunciation use the same alphabet with English.

For example: Canada in Chinese pronunciation is "Jia-na-da",so Canada's initial letter in Chinese pronunciation is "J", not "C".

so, that's different...

The other example: France in Chinese pronunciation is "fa-lan-xi " or "Fa-Guo","Guo" means "country", so France's initial letter in Chinese pronunciation is the same with english.

Korea in Chinese pronunciation is "Han-Guo", so Korea's initial letter in Chinese pronunciation is "H",not "K".

And so, in the Opening Ceremony, i think BOCOG won't trouble troubles to use Chinese pronunciation. Im sure they will use English alphabet.

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And so, in the Opening Ceremony, i think BOCOG won't trouble troubles to use Chinese pronunciation. Im sure they will use English alphabet.

If that were the case, so would whichever countries want to march in, be ordered by their English spelling? Or be reordered by how they are pronounced in Chinese/Mandarin -- so the way Chapin Urbano ordered them?

Does the Chinese language actually have an alphabet? The Japanese language doesn't -- and that's why they used the English alphabet in Nagano.

I thought about that afterwards, and realized that they have these characters. Let's ask Xu: is there a precise order to the Chinese characters (like in an alphabet) or none?

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I think this is how all will go... I dreamt of this last night...

1. Countdown/Welcome to Beijing - Performers forming flags of the participating countries and the Dancing Beijing emblem. Then we'll see 5 gift boxes (Olympic colors) unwrapped to reveal the five Fuwa.

2. Welcome Comrade* Hu Jintao with Liu Qi and Jacques Rogge.

3. National Anthem

4. History of China - A "Child of Light" accompanied by 5 snails (Olympic colors) travel through China 5,000-year history.

5. All about Beijing - includes an (Beijing) opera performance.

6. A Beijing Olympic song will be performed as "Chidren of Light"-like lanterns will enter the stadium.

7. Olympic Sports - performers clad in red form the pictograms of theBeijing Olympic sports.

8. Past Olympics - runners carrying red flags with the names of the past Olympic host cities written on them. They will then make two lines from the east gate where the athletes will enter. The runner with a flag with "Beijing" written on it will lead the parade.

9. Parade of Athletes - in the order above, but I recommend the English alphabet to be used.

10. Another Beijing Olympic song will be peformed as spectators on the east stand will make a map of the world made from flashlights.

11. Official Opening/Speeches by Liu Qi, Jacques Rogge and Hu Jintao.

12. Olympic Flag and Olympic Hymn - it will be performed in Chinese, of course. Here's the words (with pinyin):

13. Official Oaths

14. Message of Peace (something like this?)

14. Arrival of Flame/Cauldron Lighting - Maybe the same as Busan

15. Finale/Fireworks - Another Beijing Olympics song will be sung. The boy with the lantern and other children and the five snails as well as those who performed during the artistic section of the ceremony will surround the singer as fireworks light up the stadium's surrondings.

Now, what do you think?

OK, 08 -- a few more thoughts since you asked for some.

I pretty much second what '04 wrote:

Olympian2004 wrote:

Secondly: I don't expect the "children of light" and especially "past Olympic host cities" segments again. Already Salt Lake City and Athens (at the closing ceremony) had that "children of light" thing, and I don't think that Zhang Yimou will copy that. I think that children will play a certain role in the ceremony, but not as "light carriers". Especially they won't copy the thing with the flags bearing the names of the past host cities. They already had that in Barcelona, Atlanta, Salt Lake and Athens. So we had definitely enough of that segment -- it would be a total lack of originality if they did it for a fifth time. Olympic ceremonies shouldn't be that predictable. And I also don't think that there will be a "Message of Peace" segment again -- it already sucked in Torino (especially due to abominable Yoko Ono), so why repeat it?

While indeed certain parts of an OC or a CC fulfill the IOC's protocol requirements, it's a high stakes one-upsmanship game now. Each edition of the Games tries to top the previous ones, and the way to do this is present something original. So, "the Children of Light thing, the running of flags with past host cities..." have all been done too recently. It would be very unimaginative of Yimou and his team to try these same elements. Just like they do the Miss Universe pageants (which I am sure you watch) -- each year is a fresh way of doing it.

The main thing now is to bring in the athletes earlier. I've heard that they will try to start the Parade of Nations within the first half hour. So, this earlier appearance of the nations was done in Salt Lake, and Torino and Melbourne to a certain extent -- and make them an integral part of the Ceremony since the whole megillah is supposed to be about them anyway. Of course with 8,000 or so athletes (that's already taking into account those who will NOT partake), it will still be a matter of logistics where to place them AND still have artistic portions go on. But I am sure they will find solutions to place/seat the athletes (perhaps around the track or in 3 or 4 sections).

And here is actually my take, if I were to do it. I would break up the nations into 3 or 4 segments:

Opening Protocol sections, etc., etc. (or maybe bring in the nations by continental grouping this year)

- first 50 nations; then artistic portion A (maybe 1st 1000 years of Chinese history)

- 2nd 50 nations - Artistic portion B (second 1000 years)

- 3rd 50 - Artistic C (3rd era),

- 4th - rest of the Ceremony, etc., etc.

It would break the monotony of those boring 2-hour (or maybe shorter this year due to no-shows) stretches, and be able to pace the OC more incrementally as it builds towards the Lighting of the Torch and the Fireworks which are always the climax.

And as I've held and continue to hope, the more nations become self-righteous about China's politics, the better it is for the OC. A shorter, sweeter affair. Less is always more.

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Quite an interesting plan, Baron. Pan Am games have been doing something like that since Winnipeg '99, I think (correct me if I'm wrong, canadians). Last year's edition OC featured the athletes parade right after the welcome segment. It worked fine, since the pan american games feature some 5,500 athletes and there were a reserved place for them to watch the artistic portion, which came after their entrance and accomodation.

BUT, that might not work properly since we are talking about the Olympic Games. It's double size! The parade coming after the welcoming won't work at all. Watching 42 nations marching is kinda boring already. Intercalating the athletes entrance in groups of 50 nations or even continents with the artistic portion could turn the OC into an "exercise of patience-non-fluid show". And the accomodation of 8.000+ athletes and officials would require quite a number of seats, since they cannot stand in the stage area if there's an artistic portion yet to be shown.

I agree the creators should think a new way of dealing with the parade without breaking the pace and feel of an olympic opening ceremony.

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BUT, that might not work properly since we are talking about the Olympic Games. It's double size! The parade coming after the welcoming won't work at all. Watching 42 nations marching is kinda boring already. Intercalating the athletes entrance in groups of 50 nations or even continents with the artistic portion could turn the OC into an "exercise of patience-non-fluid show". And the accomodation of 8.000+ athletes and officials would require quite a number of seats, since they cannot stand in the stage area if there's an artistic portion yet to be shown.

I agree the creators should think a new way of dealing with the parade without breaking the pace and feel of an olympic opening ceremony.

Well, if only 30 nations march in -- then there won't be a space problem. :lol:

But regardless though, it will all be worked out. Yimou's partners (Morton, Birch, the French company) have all done this before so it will all work out you'll see.

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If that were the case, so would whichever countries want to march in, be ordered by their English spelling? Or be reordered by how they are pronounced in Chinese/Mandarin -- so the way Chapin Urbano ordered them?

I thought about that afterwards, and realized that they have these characters. Let's ask Xu: is there a precise order to the Chinese characters (like in an alphabet) or none?

I think they will be orderd by English spelling.

Being orderd by pronouncation in Chinese would bring too much trouble...

About these Chinese characters, there's no precise order like in an alphabet.

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What I mean is a mosaic of the participating nations. Not one-by-one!

Probably not. It doesn't sound very exciting or original. Besides, they'll already have all the flags draped around the stadium (hanging from the rim of the canopy), so why do another number with it?

And LA did it better in 1984 -- with the entire stadium participating.

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With the awful catastrophe in Sichuan and with only a few weeks left before the Beijing 2008 opening ceremony, do you guys think that there would be a moment of silence for the victims as part of the official components of the ceremony itself? You know, like around the time of the official opening speeches by the BOCOG president and/or with Jacques Rogge, as examples.

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With the awful catastrophe in Sichuan and with only a few weeks left before the Beijing 2008 opening ceremony, do you guys think that there would be a moment of silence for the victims as part of the official components of the ceremony itself? You know, like around the time of the official opening speeches by the BOCOG president and/or with Jacques Rogge, as examples.

I'll answer that in one of your YouTube videos... but I'm telling you to be careful with what you are uploading now!

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