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Thanks olympics08.

I more than realize the EBU holds the Olympics rights in Europe, but I was more specifically interested in how many hours each nation's broadcasters in them was going to air and how varied the sports coverage will be for Beijing--will they show sports they are contenders in? Will they show sports that they aren't? Will there be gender-equity in their coverage? What times and will there be replays? Will they show all sports decently and not just the medal rounds? Will they focus just on their athletes? These are just a sampling of the questions I wanted to seek answered regarding their broadcast plans. Yes, it's still early but to see that only a few (nine as of this writing) national networks are doing or planning online Olympic coverage at this point is discouraging--though I'm seeing Wales doing it for Sianel 4 Cymru. That's new and interesting.

Thanks for the Olympic radio participants

Really intrigued by the addition of analysis and rules of the games added on NBCOlympics. Why not have a Spanish Internet equivalent to SAP on TV remotes for this?

I think TyC Sports in Argentina will do at least some Beijing Olympic coverage.

So is Belgium finally having domestic Flemish language Olympic TV coverage along with French (La Deux) in Beijing? That nation's Olympic TV coverage sucks.

I can assume ERT in Greece will repeat the NOVA Athens situation by having additional channels specific to Beijing, and they showed practically everything.

The following is geared toward those Aussies and Kiwis here like Roland, Troy, Micheal Warren, nzolympic, etc. I'm very curious about the hours, abundance and coverage of the Olympic sports, rights fees, analysis, highlights, announcers, commetaries, and the like. What do you mates hope to see out of 7/SBS and TVNZ in their final forays into the Olympics until at least after 2012 after years of watching their Olympic coverages (and of others in the past like ABC)? Do you hate to see jumping from one sport to another, apparently to one more significant event instead of completion. I've heard of stories of how Boomers and Opals fans frustrated over their matches bumped to say, swimming or field hockey, on TV during the Olympics. Also I'm curious to how many hours of coverage was shown in both Australia and New Zealand over the years since their respective TV Olympics debut, and what were the TV rights fees then. What sports were covered (aside from swimming and track and field), highlights package, how both ceremonies covered (such as when the Aussies and Kiwis entered the stadium, were they given a lot of face time marching, was the artistic portion shown in full, were they replayed to name a few aspects), etc. I know that during Sydney Seven/C7 Sport had around 1216 hours but declined in Athens even with SBS as its junior partner replacing the defunct C7 Sport network to 668(?) hours. Will the Internet play a role, do you guys think?

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How about Antartica? Who holds the TV /internet rights to Antartica? What did they pay? Will they be able to watch it there at their most convenient hours? Will Honda buy enough ads for the Antartica coverage? McDonald's? :rolleyes:

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How about Antartica? Who holds the TV /internet rights to Antartica? What did they pay? Will they be able to watch it there at their most convenient hours? Will Honda buy enough ads for the Antartica coverage? McDonald's? :rolleyes:

I don't think there's TV coverage in Antartica, even in its claims. But there are mocks saying "What if Antartica has television?"

Here's one of those mocks :)

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If the last Olympics in 2004 were any indication as to how the NBC family of networks will distribute the coverage. To me, it'll be like this:

NBC--both ceremonies, marquee events in swimming and track (particularly if Americans are favored and recaps of longer events or not in their entirties like the women's 800m and men's 1500m), USA basketball games on weekends, bits and pieces of diving rounds, both marathons, rowing, volleyball (not in their entireties), beach volleyball involving US teams, recaps of lesser-publicized sports (at least to us), no classification games, equestrian, canoeing, gymnastics including the gala, cycling

USA--Team USA sports live and commercial-free (basketball, softball, water polo, soccer, baseball?), some cycling

CNBC--boxing on weekdays, with some team sports coverage on weekends, equestrain, wrestling, weightlifting, field hockey

MSNBC--walking, rowing, some track events and soccer, water polo, taekwondo, modern penthatlon, basketball, canoeing, rhythmic gymnastics, table tennis, volleyball

Telemundo--sports that traditionally appeal to Hispanic/Latin audiences like soccer, baseball, boxing, basketball, track, swimming

Online will all sports live but I'm sure NBC would not hesitate to put a lot of the marquee events like the 100m sprints and sports/heats/finals/semis and team sports matches involving American athletes on broadcast initially to maximize interest and ratings instead of online, where they will be later put on as on-demand. Everything during and after that will be, I presume, commercial free online.

Since we have yet to see the schedule unvieled, I can be proven wrong of course.

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Really surprising news out from Eurosport. Asics wants to steal Adidas' thunder during the Olympics. Pretty ambitious in its global sponsorship Olympic campaign since its not as well known as the big four of Adidas, Reebok, Nike, and Puma. Eurosport plans to show 15 hours of daily Olympic coverage. Will Eurosport2 get involved somehow? Outside of swimming, track, soccer and both ceremonies, what sports they'll give priority towards? Will they have online coverage?

Asics Sponsors Europort's Beijing Olympic Coverage

Whenever the official Olympic TV graphics appear up on the screen, I wonder considering the official languages of the Olympics are English and French (along with the host nation's language that is neither), would the graphics will be read in French when Olympic telecasts are in a French-speaking nation. I just saw footage from the men's 2004 Team Gymnastics competition on YouTube from France 2 & 3 (with no French audio commentary) and all of the graphics were in English. I would presume if the nations broadcasting the Games didn't have either IOC language spoken, English is the one they would select.

Also why doesn't NBC feel compelled to show the logo and identification of the host city's broadcasting organization during its telecast? Is their direction that different from the global feed? Perhaps with the amount of money in the billions it shells out, the network can ignore them. Why not show some obligation and acknowledgement to BOB this time around unlike SOBO, TOBO, and AOB?

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I'll ask again to the Australian and Kiwi posters here (might got lost in the shuffle first time around): how many hours did Australian TV showed the Summer and Winter Olympics up to now? What were the TV rights fees over the years? And did you think of the coverage back then as to what you will get now? What you did not like about it the coverage? Were there a diversity of sports coverage?

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I have personally always been reasonably happy with the TVNZ coverage of the Olympic Games, especially considering it has only been on the one network. They have only just got up on a digital platform with freeview. I am not entirely sure of their plans for Beijing, but I am guessing they would probably use a channel on that to put some Olympic events on.

Of course Sydney was the best coverage, as an Olympic day was esentially the same as a Kiwi day due to Sydney being just a few hours behind us.

Generally , TVNZ through TV1, will cover the Olympic day, in woteva time the timezone demands. And then, will have a few hours of highlights at a more *reasonable* viewing hour, such as 3-6pm.

That was the case in Athens, with the opening ceremony being on in the early hours of the morning - and the majority of competition taking place over night.

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So how has the coverage on TVNZ One grown over the past Olympics in terms of hours and sports diversity? Was it all highlights with a strong bent to the Kiwis participating? When it started to go live? Surely it couldn't be wall-to-wall like it is these days. How many sports were shown in their entirities, even the ceremonies? I guess it favored the men in their sports. Does TVNZ One offers Olympic coverage with its feed to its Oceanian island neighbors? Or is it Australia's doing? I'm looking forward to their plans for their final Olympics with their Freeview in the mix (how about online?)--at least it's more favorable for the Kiwis this time around like Sydney.

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To be honest, I can only remember Atlanta as my first Olympics I paid much attention to. Ever since then they have made the effort to basically cover a live day in whateva location it is in, highlights always favouring New Zealand.

I know that TVNZ has traditionally also been a major player in providing the expertise of host broadcaster for sailing events, I guess helped with the high tech America's Cup coverage they and their fellow NZ companies have pioneered - such as virtual spectator.

And yup, TVNZ does provide the coverage for the Pacific Islands.

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To be honest, I can only remember Atlanta as my first Olympics I paid much attention to. Ever since then they have made the effort to basically cover a live day in whateva location it is in, highlights always favouring New Zealand.

I know that TVNZ has traditionally also been a major player in providing the expertise of host broadcaster for sailing events, I guess helped with the high tech America's Cup coverage they and their fellow NZ companies have pioneered - such as virtual spectator.

And yup, TVNZ does provide the coverage for the Pacific Islands.

Do you know how many hours that TVNZ had for Atlanta? I always felt it was interesting NZ had more hours of WOG TV coverage than its much bigger rival across the Tasman on Seven, even now that Australia has racked far more medals (including gold) than NZ since Analiesa Coberger.

Does the feed the Pacific Islands get from TVNZ always have a NZ bent or does it allow for each island in its place, save for the NZ island territories like the Cook Islands, its own indigenious reports on athletes at their island home studios when they get the chance?Is it really possible and affordable for them? I'm sure it tries to get every Pacific island Olympic participant the network can for their benefit so it can package it as daily highlight footage for them. Now that Tuvalu is an IOC member, it'll get TVNZ's coverage (and surely and subsequently Prime/SKY Sports').

Olympic Advertisers Line Up for Online Coverage Package A light Beijing 2008 update at this time. Surely the usual Olympic sponsors are involved in this.

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Not entirely sure about Atlanta aye, i will see if i can find an atlanta 96 tv magazine in my collection.

In terms of Pacifica coverage that TVNZ provides, I am not entirely sure how that works to be honest. The only thing I would say, is that whenever there is an achievement of some description from a PI nation, it gets big coverage in NZ< let alone in the islands.

Case in point being Tonga's silver medal in boxing in Atlanta. Remember, Auckland has the biggest poly population in the world.

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Remember, Auckland has the biggest poly population in the world.

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Poly? Polynesian? Rolly-polly? If the former, I thought Tahiti or Hawaii would have the largest concentration of Polynesians. Besides, aren't the Maoris and Oceania natives called Melanesians?

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Nope, apparenlty it's Auckland - hundreds of thousands of them in Auckland alone. haha

Melanesia is more like French Polynesia and New Guinea area.

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Melanesia is more like French Polynesia and New Guinea area.

Those 2 areas that far apart?

Faster, we need you to chime in here -- why are some Pacific peoples called Polynesians and some Melanesians? (And I think there are also the Micronesians?)

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Matty's right, Auckland is the largest Polynesian city in the world. The Maori are polynesian, linked culturally to Hawaiians, Samoans, Tahitians etc. They were the big seafarers of the Pacific. The Melanesians (as the name implies) are darker and their island homes aren't as widespread _ New Guinea, Fiji, Solomon Islands etc. Micronesia, I think, is just an island chain, not a racial description.

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This is the video detailing the NBCOlympics.com and MSN teamup utilizing Silverlight technology for NBC's coverage of Beijing 2008 from Bill Gates' final CES Microsoft keynote address.

CES 2008: NBC Beijing 2008 and Microsoft/Silverlight

What would be in those 600 hours omitted from the on-demand stuff after the Olympics? My guess would be all of the commercials, newsbreaks, lengthy intermissions in between events, maybe some pre-ceremony stuff, and the extended nothing footage that comes at the end of the competition ending with the BOB logo.

One thing's for sure: TV coverage for the Olympics will take a whole new level that even the ill-fated Olympic Triplecast and beyond wouldn't imagine. When you look at stuff from past Olympics like Los Angeles and Moscow such as the graphics, it all looks so primitive compared to what we got and going to get now.

But since it all starts on 8/8/08, will those other preliminary soccer matches eventually be made available for online on-demand (aside from the USA games on cable--likely on MSNBC) instead of live? We'll know for certain...

Hey Roltel, how has Australian Olympic TV coverage grown over the past Olympics. What do you think of the coverage that you've been getting so far? How diverse was the coverage? I'm trying to find a list of how many hours from Australia first starting covering the Olympics up to now (we don't know exactly yet how many hours Seven/SBS will do), among other things.

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Hey Roltel, how has Australian Olympic TV coverage grown over the past Olympics. What do you think of the coverage that you've been getting so far? How diverse was the coverage? I'm trying to find a list of how many hours from Australia first starting covering the Olympics up to now (we don't know exactly yet how many hours Seven/SBS will do), among other things.

I know Seven are advertising already 17 hours a day coverage from Beijing. I'm not sure if that's much more or less than the past _ certainly the last few games (and especially Sydney, obviously) had pretty much wall to wall coverage here. It concentrates on the Aussie competitors, of course, but SBS has taken up some of the minor sports for the past few editions. Not sure what'll happen this time _ I assume a lot will be farmed off on digital channels. I'll keep you posted when I start getting full scheduls.

I'm most going to miss a Beijing edition of "The Dream" _ I still hope they (Roy & HG) might to a one-off for the games.

Historicallly, they've been broadcast here since Melbourne _ in fact, TV began in Oz just before the Melbourne Games, so it was one of the first ever TV events shown here.

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I know Seven are advertising already 17 hours a day coverage from Beijing. I'm not sure if that's much more or less than the past _ certainly the last few games (and especially Sydney, obviously) had pretty much wall to wall coverage here. It concentrates on the Aussie competitors, of course, but SBS has taken up some of the minor sports for the past few editions. Not sure what'll happen this time _ I assume a lot will be farmed off on digital channels. I'll keep you posted when I start getting full scheduls.

I'm most going to miss a Beijing edition of "The Dream" _ I still hope they (Roy & HG) might to a one-off for the games.

Historicallly, they've been broadcast here since Melbourne _ in fact, TV began in Oz just before the Melbourne Games, so it was one of the first ever TV events shown here.

Admittedly, fuller details from 7 and SBS have yet to come to light. The remaining seven hours would be for mostly news obviously. Surely Seven will exclusively have both ceremonies, acquatics, gymnastics, (field) hockey, and track and field and an Australian bent at that with glimpses of the Boomers, Opals, and the Olyroos. I like for it to be more accomodating and wall-to-wall, we shall see with the digital channels. Will it be like, or more than, in Sydney with 882 hours (thanks to C7 Sport)?

1976 was the first Olympics to go color in Australia (color TV didn't go into existence down there until the year before), I'm sure there was major hype in that for Montreal and Innsbruck. With Melbourne (and this is where the jealously starts at the Aussies), we Americans and Canadians were robbed a chance to have Melbourne as our first Olympic taste on TV here because negotiations for international TV rights broke down.

Another thought on the NBC coverage: I think another reason for 3000 on-demand hours online is of the fact towards there will be simulcasts on HD which, unless there are different angles and direction on it, would be redundant, so a lot of it would get subtracted (and it will be on 24 hours daily) from the 1400 hours. I mentioned this already some time ago, but it's interesting.

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This follows up on what Sir Roltel is referring to with Seven's promoting its final Olympic coverage at Beijing this August at 8/8/08. Starring Bruce McAveny and Amy Pearson signing "Ready To Fly" with footage from Athens and Sydney. Some Aussies have complained about Seven promoting the Games prematurely.

Seven 2008 Olympic Promo

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NBC and NBCOlympics.com had the first streaming Olympic qualification event with the US Olympic Team Trial men's marathon on Nov 7 iwth the New York Marathon.

CBC/SRC will work with Bell Canada in their final Olympic coverage later this year in Beijing with extensive coverage on cell phones, digital satelitte channels, and high-speed Internet coverage--high definition included. Deal apparently doesn't cover TSN/RDS since that CTVglobemedia entity already is on HD. Since TSN/RDS covers basketball (and that's the only sport it covers during the Olympics I can think of right now), I'll project how it'll break down TV network-wise with the CBC as I presume it to be right now. This means I'll omit some sports:

CBC/SRC--both ceremonies, swimming and diving, track & field, gymnastics, basketball, water polo, soccer, softball, cycling

CBC Country Canada--cycling, rowing, canoeing/kayaking, mountain biking, equestrian, traithlon

CBC Newsworld--boxing, soccer, fencing, weightlifting

Bell Canada CBC/SRC on Beijing 2008 Olympic Coverage Press Release

How many hours altogether will Beijing 2008 be covered for Canada is yet to be determined. I presume there will be at least 1400 hours. Of course, it's still being finalized. What I can say for sure is more coverage will go for the English as opposed to the French language overall.

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PS: CBC actually has a weekly half-hour TV program profiling Canadian elite athletes for Beijing called Countdown to Beijing. Last show was over an hour ago CST. I already submitted a link to it as Beijing Bound.

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I'm interested to see any developments toward any specific Olympic coverage within European nations and what plans they have for TV/Internet within those nations (excluding Eurosport and the Great Britain's BBC)--like how many hours each nation will televise. Some nations made great strides in terms of coverage in Athens like Greece, Germany (Germany did the most hours in Europe outside of Greece and even that can be comparable with 1500 hours), and Russia did in their respective ones. Some were limited like Lithuania and Estonia. I do expect a boost in all of the European nations in terms of hours of coverage with some nations, like Austria's ORF and Norway's SportN, adding sports channels since Athens. Will they recruit a person who has intimate knowledge about Chinese culture for the opening and closing ceremonies? Perhaps they could. Will Sweden's SVT move their coverage from SVT1 to SVT2 while their sister channels like SVT Barn Olympic coverage leaves untouched.

Why is Italy with RAI exempt from any EBU dealings with the Olympics and how they do their Olympic coverage (just to remind myself)?

Why does Belgium's native Olympic TV coverage suck out of all of the European nations with all due respect to fielding small teams in recent Olympics and getting access via satelitte Eurosport, BBC, and NOS? I think it did no more than 25 hours of Athens. Will it be in both French and Flemish this time around on separate networks?

Looking forward to check out ASTRO's Malaysian Olympic coverage. How will Singapore do with Media Corp's?

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Here's the press release officially announcing NBC and MultiCultural Broadcasting working closely in providing Chinese (both Mandarin and Cantonese) and Korean language coverage of the Beijing Olympics in sports like baseball, taekwondo, table tennis, basketball, swimming, volleyball, soccer, and track and field to both Chinese and Korean-American communities. This was already in the plans and makes sense with the games in China:

NBC and MultiCultural Broadcasting Beijing 2008 Agreement

How many hours in total for both languages combined in part of the overall coverage? We'll see.

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Thanks BT, until that article I didn't know that NBC Universal had recently acquired Oxygen. Not surprisingly with the nature of the female-oriented network, sports that are of high interest with women will be of the order there with Beijing. (Artistic) Gymnastics aside, which I think it'll be covered like USA's daily figure skating show during Torino, Oxygen also plans to cover rhythmic gymnastics, tennis, synchronized swimming, and equestrian, as noted by Around The Rings.

Much of the English coverage on NBC will go towards its Spanish network, Telemundo.


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