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The invitation to address students at Columbia University turned out to controversy. Mr Lee Bollinger, the president of the university accused him of being a cruel and petty tyrant while he said it was an insult on his personality. From his speech many spiteful words were heard - he even said, It was time for those powers(possibly the west) "to return from the path of arrogance and obedience to Satan to the path of faith in God". On the UN session, his delivery speech was blantantly expressed attacking the UN security council of arrogance to the astonishment of the members.

Russia and China relax approach to the accusation was pronounced from their speeches. Even France seemed to be interferring positively by it neutrality and saying, "Iran is entitled to nuclear power for civilian purposes, but if we allow Iran to acquire nuclear weapons, we would incur an unacceptable risk to the stability of the region and the stability of the world."

Now, do we think this man has a skeleton in his cupboard to hide and feel so bold to accuse US and UN? is it right what he he's saying in any sense? Do you think the sanctions are going to make him stop the unfolded plan for holocaust? What's the best possible means to disarm Iran of the uranium enrichment? Is Russia and China in the support of Iran nuclear plant or just to wait till Iran launch a nuclear weapon before any possible action? Do you think France is scared to speak his mind? And how possible is Iran really dangerous to the world?

[Note: Am expecting a recrimination from those who go against my post in this forum] PEACE, my brothers.

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If I don't have nuclear weapons and don't intend to have them, I too would be pissed off if people are accusing me otherwise, especially those who are actively involved in state-sponsored war and so happen posessing nuclear weapons themselves.

Iran is just geographically (and to some extent "religiously") unlucky. The last thing the US wants is an Islamic country posessing nuclear weapons. LOL!

What paranoia!

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Iran is just geographically (and to some extent "religiously") unlucky. The last thing the US wants is an Islamic country posessing nuclear weapons. LOL!

What paranoia!

And you don’t think the paranoia is justified? I don’t know about you lot but I feel a lot safer with America possessing nuclear weapons than an “Islamic” state, especially one like Iran.

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If this man is mad why would UN really want to hear from him and also invited by the Columbia University for a delivery speech? What makes you think nuclear weapon is safer with US than Iran? He made us understand America used it on Hiroshiman and Nagasaki at the press. so, What do you think about that?

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I don't get it. You have to expantiate on that -- Because we are not Islamic (read 'irrational)-raised 15-year olds.

For you information, am above 15 years.

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If this man is mad why would UN really want to hear from him and also invited by the Columbia University for a delivery speech? What makes you think nuclear weapon is safer with US than Iran? He made us understand America used it on Hiroshiman and Nagasaki at the press. so, What do you think about that?

Well that MAD man is somehow ploting something Israel ...

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Despite all I still have much trust in United States of American more than any other countries. That doesn't say that I agree with it on everything. The greatest problem with nuclear weapons is that it's met to harm humans.

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1. Despite all I still have much trust in United States of American more than any other countries. That doesn't say that I agree with it on everything.

2, The greatest problem with nuclear weapons is that it's met to harm humans.

1. Bingo, james!! That's why the US wants to control the spread of nuclear weapons -- if it can, with the cooperation of the other Big 4. The US could've used it in Vietnam or Cuba, or Iraq the first time -- but it didn't and that showed that the US has practiced restraint all these past 60 years. There were legitimate reasons they had to be dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki; and the Japanese brought it upon themselves. With what the mad Iranian spouts, he has no compunctions on testing these on Israel. And he seems stupid and naive enough to think that Israel won't have a few surprises waiting for him -- if not sooner rather than later. And of course, if Iran acts preemptively, that would be the start of World War III. Which is WHY an unreliable state like Iran (run by an unpopoular minority schizoid, backed only by the power of the moolahs :lol: , must NOT be allowed to develop a nuclear programme. Maybe, it's time to use them on Tehran.

Of course, the Gay Liberation front will endorse it since according to A-Mad-Dinnjer-Jacket, "...there are no homosexuals in Iran." They already killed them all -- well, the male ones anyway. Of course, no one has studied the high incidence of lesbianism in the Middle East.

2. You think? :blink: Tell that to A-mad-dinner-jacket.

Well, given that fact that some humans are bad...they (including Russia & China) are making bombs - the neutron bombs, I think -- where everything else but flesh and blood will stand. Does that sound better? It's kinda comforting to know that my CD and Olympic souvenir collections will survive.

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If Iran is so much keen about having nuclear power plants to generate power why it tries to prevent inspectors from scrutinizing the place? If he's not really intending to buld nuclear weapons from the plants why even fighting hard to have nuclear plant anyway? Iran has good reserve of gas to generate eletricity besides, is Iran lacking in power generation so much that it wants get involved without considering the great effect of chynobel' nuclear accident in Ukrain?

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If Iran is so much keen about having nuclear power plants to generate power why it tries to prevent inspectors from scrutinizing the place? If he's not really intending to buld nuclear weapons from the plants why even fighting hard to have nuclear plant anyway? Iran has good reserve of gas to generate eletricity besides, is Iran lacking in power generation so much that it wants get involved without considering the great effect of chynobel' nuclear accident in Ukrain?

Exactly. Good argument. Which only means that they want to join the nuclear club to wreak havoc in the region and the world!! U got it, baby!!

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There's one thing am still skeptical about that Iran will have his way through if this nuclear weapon thing is not taken more seriously than what it is now. Iran might want to use some time factor delay to quickly build some nuclear weapons. Do you think that is what Iranian president is trying to do by being arrogant and aggressive?

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If this man is mad why would UN really want to hear from him and also invited by the Columbia University for a delivery speech? What makes you think nuclear weapon is safer with US than Iran? He made us understand America used it on Hiroshiman and Nagasaki at the press. so, What do you think about that?

Very easy to condemn an historic decision without having the full context. While I am not condoning the decision to use those bombs, I understand the reasoning behind him. Don't use them and World War II goes on for many more months, killing arguably at least as many people as the atom bombs if not more. Use them and the chances are you will get a quick victory.

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Behind it, of course. Thinking one thing, typing another again.

Does that mean not all Iranian supported the nuclear weapons?

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[link]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7029792.stm[/link]

"The Iranian people are not ready to sit around a table and discuss their absolute nuclear rights ", Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said. It means the plan for a holocaust is still in their mind( epecially about the state of Isreal),right?

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US report plays down Iran threat

Can't US act now or is it waiting for the nuclear warhead to come up first before it acts ,if it's really sure what it says?

Wow, who would have that you'd be warmonger as well.

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Ahmet, you may not know it know, but you are one of the most fortunate Turks in the world, there are 80 million in Turkey about about 3 million outside, those 3 million are lucky, because the war won't come to them as quickly as it will face Turkey.

You should also know better than most the animousity and dislike that occurs between Turkic people, Persians and Arabs, this is going to be a catalyst for the next war. Iran wants to be the dominate Islamic country and the dominate force in the middle-east. Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey stand in their way and the Iranians are getting impatient. This more than anything was the cause and reason for the Iraq War, the United States wanted a base to support their allies in a continued status-quo of the Islamic world because the instability of the oil producing countries benefits the world market. Allowing only Israel to have a nuclear arsenal will prevent their premature use on behave of Iran, an instable country with a desire to become powerful is more dangerous than countries trying to protect their interests and current status. Unfortunately this will result in a long and bloody war that will result in 10's of millions of dead and the region devastated, which will also have an interesting impact on world oil prices and could very well change the culture of oil in the West.

This will lead into the bigger dispute between China and India vie the United States being badly placed when it comes to a shortage of oil, thus giving them their final blow to their status. Pakistan will get involved and I am sure the Tigers will support India over China, especially the SEA ones that still know that China's official policy is that Indo-China is apart of China, even if it doesn't advertise this as much as Taiwan. This will be long and bloody, and probably result in the multiple 100's of millions dead. This will cripple manufacturing and make Africa a more viable and suitable place to invest and industrialize, which will happen at different rates, each of the current powers will support certain countries in this quest and the best place for this is France with their continued and growing relationships with many African countries, placing the Franco-German Alliance in a stronger position, but having to push German back into a position where they have a standing army that could invade and take over Poland within a month, I know bad reference, but you get the picture. And we all now that the Poles, Italians, Spanish, Brits and Russians will not be pleased and this every thing explains Russia's terrible, miscalculated and misguided steps to regain power by regaining influential control in the former Soviet states. Russia and Spain are the worst placed European countries in regards to harnessing Africa to get them through a prolonged Asian war.

Now on to North America in the meantime, Canada and the United States will turn their intentions to Central and South America developing and support the states they deem fit to do business with and create conditions similar to the ones the Europeans will be creating in Africa, since their is a power vacuum in both you will see wars for control, in Africa, Algeria, Nigeria, Egypt, Ethiopia and South Africa will be vying for power and ironically the Congo will play an important role in who wins what depending on who they support, Algeria will have French backing and probably become the dominate North African country and face off against the much larger and British backed Nigeria for West African control, Nigeria does not have a chance because it can never be a unified country like Algeria. Ethiopia should have the upperhand, if not for being surrounded by Islamic countries, but they will hold their own they always do, but South Africa will have problems, lots of them, much of Southern Africa will, for obvious reasons, not being incompetence in government, though this will indeed create problems. As for the Americas, look for Argentina to unhappily become the Canada to Brazil's USA.

The war in Asia is over and China is devastated in their lose and probable lose of over 300 million lives, you know have the Tigers position firmly planted in an uneasy alliance with the Indians who are being backed by the Franco-German alliance. Now what comes next depends on the stupidity of the Russians, either they enter the war in the late stages to try and prompt the Chinese to victory and their except the war is lost and look for European power that they are so badly placed for. Now this entries the Franco-German alliance and their need to be armed to the tooth, because the slavic states are gonna get antsy and want to ally themselves with the mothership and go after the central and long-lived power center of Europe. The Russians will lose either way, they always do and this will put the British and the Americans in the most awkward of awkward positions, outside of South America, neither have allies to support them or them to support, the Germans are well placed with the Indians that would want to stay neutral in any final position between the Brits and the mainland European powers, enter British shyness towards Europe, it will become isolated and devoid of any real influence or power in the world and the Americans are ready to make their last stand against the new and dominated world power, the land of Hindus, India.

If you think this is all very far-fetched, look about circa 1890 to about 1905, even then people foresaw the wars and the starting points and the chain reactions and the new big bad on the block and 30 years from now , the power structure and its tools will be useless. Not to mention all of this would be great population control.

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