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All-time Olympic Games Medal Tally (summer)

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With less than one year to go before the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games start, I thought I put up the overall medal tally for the Summer Olympics. This will be just like the winter one I put up some time ago in this very sub-forum. Again, the source comes from Infoplease.com. Remember, this medal tally is the overall one since 1896 and, not being sure about it, I do not think it includes the unofficial 1906 Athens Games (the one between St. Louis 1904 and London 1908).

Here, according to the link, are the TOP 10 ever.

1. United States of America (USA) -> 896 gold, 692 silver, 603 bronze = 2,191 medals (FIRST in both categories)

2. Former USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) -> 395 gold, 319 silver, 296 bronze = 1,010 medals (SECOND in both categories)

3. Great Britain (which will host the 2012 Olympic Games) -> 189 gold, 242 silver, 237 bronze = 668 medals (THIRD in both categories)

4. France -> 183 gold, 196 silver, 216 bronze = 595 medals (FOURTH in both categories)

5. Italy -> 182 gold, 147 silver, 164 bronze = 493 medals (FIFTH in both categories)

6. Hungary -> 156 gold, 136 silver, 157 bronze = 449 medals (SIXTH in gold medals; SEVENTH in total medals)

7. Former EAST Germany (GDR: German Democratic Republic) -> 153 gold, 129 silver, 127 bronze = 409 medals (SEVENTH in gold medals; NINTH in total medals)

8. Current AND Unified Germany (GER) -> 148 gold, 153 silver, 188 bronze = 489 medals (EIGHTH in gold medals; SIXTH in total medals)

9. Sweden -> 142 gold, 155 silver, 173 bronze = 470 medals (NINTH in gold medals; EIGHTH in total medals)

10. Australia -> 117 gold, 122 silver, 147 bronze = 386 medals (TENTH in both categories)

Link: Infoplease.com's All-Time Medal Standings From 1896 - 2004

Note 1: CHINA sits in 12th place, behind Japan, in the gold medal category with 112 of them. However, with 286 total medals so far, it is behind Finland and ahead of Romania in this category. That will change big time, come next year.

Note 2: For Canada, its ranking here has been slipping quite a bit. It sits tied in 20th place, with South Korea, in the gold medal category with 55 of them. Also, with 242 total medals won so far, it is behind both the Russian Federation and Poland, but it is ahead of the Netherlands in this category. Remember, the Russian Federation's 251 medals won so far ONLY REALLY STARTED AT THE 1996 ATLANTA Olympic Games. And, yes, that total includes the time, when Russia was under Czarist rule from 1900 to 1912 and it wasn't that powerful in the sports world then. Back then, it won only 1 gold and 2 silver medals at London 1908; 2 silver and 3 bronze medals at Stockholm 1912.

Note 3: Hungary, in the top-10 list above, is the only nation to have NOT hosted the Olympic Games yet.

Most of all, as this topic's description has stated by me, this list is only to be used for reference!

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It would be interested to see a medal tally, in which the medals of the USSR are spread into the medals for each member state of the USSR (team events should be still counted as USSR) - the same for Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia

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Thanks. Come next year at this time, it will be quite a show for "Olympic medal supremacy" between Great Britain, France and Italy. Why? It is because all of them almost have the same number of Olympic gold medals won so far. Which ever one of these 3 nations win the most of that category amongst them after the 2008 Olympic Games is over, it will take THIRD place in the big overall medal tally, behind the former USSR and the USA.

Also, a top 10 place in the same category is in the line, too. China can become one of the top 10 here, while Australia may get closer to Sweden's gold medal total as well. Plus, don't forget about Japan in the mix here.

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A yearfrom today, CHina and the USA will be in the medal hunt for most medals. 3rd will be Russia;Germany - 4th, Australia - 5th; Italy - 6th; Japan - 7th; France - 8th; Korea - 9th; GBR -10th.

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It would be interested to see a medal tally, in which the medals of the USSR are spread into the medals for each member state of the USSR (team events should be still counted as USSR) - the same for Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia

That would be a long research project since there is little information about many athletes, especially early ones. I would say that Russia would count for the vast majority, followed by Ukraine and Belarus.

Milestones

The USA will pass the 2200 mark and could potentially reach 2300

Great Britain could 700 medals

France will reach 600

Italy will reach 500

Germany will reach 500

Australia will reach 400

Finland will reach 300

Romania could reach 300

Canada should reach 250

Korea will reach 200

Spain will reach 100

Iran will reach 50

Jamaica will reach 50

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That would be a long research project since there is little information about many athletes, especially early ones. I would say that Russia would count for the vast majority, followed by Ukraine and Belarus.

well - I have books and sources, in which the nationalities are mentioned in the results of every Olympic Games (even of the team events) - but you are right - it would be a long research...

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well - I have books and sources, in which the nationalities are mentioned in the results of every Olympic Games (even of the team events) - but you are right - it would be a long research...

A quick way to estimate the medal share would be to look at the results at the first Olympics after the split. The former Soviet republics first competed as separate teams in the WOG of Lillehammer-1994. Russia took 74% of all medals and 79% of all golds won by the former republics.

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well - I have books and sources, in which the nationalities are mentioned in the results of every Olympic Games (even of the team events) - but you are right - it would be a long research...

Nationalities are not very useful for such research, e.g. a significant portion of Ukraine's population are ethnic Russians (arguably) and the largest Russia's minority are Ukrainians.

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A quick way to estimate the medal share would be to look at the results at the first Olympics after the split. The former Soviet republics first competed as separate teams in the WOG of Lillehammer-1994. Russia took 74% of all medals and 79% of all golds won by the former republics.

For SOG the first time was in Atlanta-1996. Russia took 52% of all medals and 67% of all golds won by all the 15 former republics there. I know it is an imperfect estimate, but just an idea.

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Nationalities are not very useful for such research, e.g. a significant portion of Ukraine's population are ethnic Russians (arguably) and the largest Russia's minority are Ukrainians.

... sorry, my post was mistakable - I have books resp. sources, in which the states, from which the medal winners between 1952-1992 of the URS/EUN came from, are mentioned

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Well, CAF and others, if Germany wins enough gold medals at Beijing 2008 over the Hungarian team, then it will be ranked in the sixth spot according to that big list. Of course, who knows what that will mean for Germany getting to host another Summer Olympics in the future.

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BEIJING PREDICTED MEDAL TALLY (total gold)

1. China

2. USA (most medals)

3. Russia

4. Australia

5. Germany

6. Japan

7. France

8. Italy

9. South Korea

10. Great Britain

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With just over 5 months to go before Beijing 2008, any predictions about how your Olympic team will fare at those upcoming Games?

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BEIJING PREDICTED MEDAL TALLY (total gold)

1. China

2. USA (most medals)

3. Russia

4. Australia

5. Germany

6. Japan

7. France

8. Italy

9. South Korea

10. Great Britain

Man, what a predictor you have become. A British university professor has "calculated" that it could come to pass and was reported to the BBC. He has predicted that China could win as many as 46 Olympic gold medals at Beijing 2008. Here is the link to the BBC article about it:

Link: BBC: China 'to top Games medal table'

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Well i have won my fair share of AFL tipping competitions in my time.

I'd like to know what the other top 10 predictions were. All the link and any other relevant article listed China finishing first and Great Britain 10th.

As for predictions for the Australian team, I'll say 20 gold medals; I honestly believe Australia has the best overall team in our Olympic history (and I'm not be dillusional from the Olympic swimming trials).

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Well i have won my fair share of AFL tipping competitions in my time.

I'd like to know what the other top 10 predictions were. All the link and any other relevant article listed China finishing first and Great Britain 10th.

As for predictions for the Australian team, I'll say 20 gold medals; I honestly believe Australia has the best overall team in our Olympic history (and I'm not be dillusional from the Olympic swimming trials).

hmm. I dont see us getting as many medals in swimming and cycling as we have in the past (e; Sydney and Athens)...and we will miss out on a medal in baseball, which we failed to qualify for this time.

As for being the best ever team...Melbourne 56' in my view was our best ever result, basically because we we actually won medals accross the board (namely athletics)...in the past 20years we've pretty much been successful in the pool, cycling track and in a few other token events...triathlon, sailing, archery for example.

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Well, now that we are at the eve of the final day at Beijing 2008, the big top ten list in the beginning of this topic will have changes in the two rankings. Barring any sudden changes, Beijing 2008 will have China win the most gold medals; the USA the most overall medals won.

As a small review of my first post here, this was the top-ten ranking (with gold medals as main criterion) before the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games began:

1. USA

2. Former Soviet Union

3. Great Britain

4. France

5. Italy

6. Hungary

7. Former EAST GERMANY

8. UNIFIED Germany

9. Sweden

10. Australia

- With China having the most gold medals won, it will be in the top ten. How far up is still in the air.

- Italy could move ahead of France to be behind Great Britain for FOURTH place in all time after these Games.

- The UNIFIED German team will take over the FORMER East German spot for sure and could move up potentially TWO SPOTS because it also had more gold medals won than Hungary at these Games.

- Of course, the USA will have a total number of gold medals for just the SUMMER OLYMPICS alone closer to 1,000 all time! That milestone could become a reality at around the 2020 or 2024 Olympic Games (the XXXIInd or XXXIIIrd Olympiad), if they continue in this pace for London 2012 and future Olympiads.

- Could Australia fall out from the top-ten list because of the Chinese surge?

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Now that the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games are over, this is the tentative TOP-TEN list of nations that includes the now-concluded Games from China.

1. USA (947 gold, 713 silver, 631 bronze) = 2,291 medals (FIRST in both counts);

2. Former USSR (395 gold, 319 silver, 296 bronze) = 1,010 medals (SECOND in both counts);

3. Great Britain (208 gold, 255 silver, 252 bronze) = 715 medals (THIRD in both counts);

4. France (190 gold, 212 silver, 233 bronze) = 635 medals (FOURTH (tie) in gold medals and FOURTH in total medals);

5. Italy (190 gold, 157 silver, 174 bronze) = 521 medals (FOURTH (tie) in gold medals; SIXTH in total medals);

6. UNIFIED Germany (164 gold, 163 silver, 203 bronze) = 530 medals (FIFTH in gold medals; FIFTH in total medals);

7. China (163 gold, 117 silver, 106 bronze) = 386 medals (SIXTH in gold medals; ELEVENTH in total medals);

8. Hungary (159 gold, 141 silver, 159 bronze) = 459 medals (SEVENTH in gold medals; EIGHTH in total medals);

9. Former EAST GERMANY (153 gold, 129 silver, 127 bronze) = 409 medals (EIGHTH in gold medals; TENTH in total medals);

10. Sweden (142 gold, 159 silver, 174 bronze) = 475 medals (NINTH in gold medals; SEVENTH in total medals); and,

11. Australia (131 gold, 137 silver, 164 bronze) = 432 medals (TENTH in gold medals; NINTH in total medals).

Notable changes:

- Russia gains a spot, in the gold medal ranking, over Finland.

- The Netherlands gains a spot, in the same gold medal ranking, over Cuba.

- South Korea jumps up a couple of spots, with a total of 68 gold medals won.

- Canada does actually gains a ranking overall in the gold medal category because it has now got more gold medals than the former West Germany.

PS: The numbers in italics here are the tentative grand total amount, after taking the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games medal tally into account.

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Guardian: Are those summer and winter together?

I sem to remember Australia is abou seventh on the all-time summer medals table.

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Guardian: Are those summer and winter together?

I sem to remember Australia is abou seventh on the all-time summer medals table.

That is just the summer one. Of course, this is really tentative because there will be some "changes", due to the obvious reasons that comes up in the news later on.

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yes very tentative lol!! Will see how the next week or so plays out

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Now that the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games are over, this is the tentative TOP-TEN list of nations that includes the now-concluded Games from China.

6. UNIFIED Germany (164 gold, 163 silver, 203 bronze) = 530 medals (FIFTH in gold medals; FIFTH in total medals);

9. Former EAST GERMANY (153 gold, 129 silver, 127 bronze) = 409 medals (EIGHTH in gold medals; TENTH in total medals);

What a nonsens! Germany is Germany, a german athlet is german and nothing else, you have to count all medals of all GERMAN athlets in olympic history together!

Deutsches Reich (GERMAN Reich)

Bundesrepublik Deutschland (Federal Republic of GERMANY)

Deutsche Demokratische Republik (GERMAN Democratic Republic)

all "Germanies" together: 400 Gold/413 Silver/ 448 Bronze

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