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I have read in an article this point about Sarajevo in 1984.  I will try to ad a link later once I refind the source!

**THE CASE OF SARAJEVO

Other cultural, economic or political aspects would also seem to be determinant in the choice of the IOC (In relation to bid cities).  Sarajevo, venue for the 1984 Games, is a singular example, as it was the only organising city to be located in a socialist country.  However, this fact must be seen in context; Yugoslavia was somewhat apart from the rest of the socialist countries.  It was not a part of the coimmunist bloc and followed a policy of non-alignment compared to certain developing countries.  Similarly, Yugoslavia was much closer to Western countries than to the other Eastern powers.  Furthermore, they bosated a certain level of development along with a well-anchored sporting history, particularly as regards winter sports.  All these factors contributed to permitting Sarajevo to organise the 1984 Games, which they did with considerable success.**

So these "other aspects" worked for Sarajevo.  It's easy to understand why Sapporo missed out on 1984 - they had them in 1972.  However Goteborg (Gothenburg) really dipped out big time as conventional bid city ratings should have delivered them the Games - regardless of the long distances to the alpine events.

Sao does this extract indicate Sarajevo was judged on a seperate set if requirements to the other bid cities?

Seems a bit suspicious to me. :rock:

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Given that there were only 3 candidate cities for the 1984 Winter Olympics, it was going to be one way or the other for the IOC to choose the city of their choice.

Yes, it would be too soon for Japan to host the Winter Olympics after Sapporo in 1972. As for Sweden, distance was the problem. Of course, NA was out of the question, since Lake Placid got the 1980 OWG by default.

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Furthermore, they bosated a certain level of development along with a well-anchored sporting history, particularly as regards winter sports.  

I find this statement a bit odd. Yugoslavia didn't win a single Olympic winter medal until 1984. I don't think winning a certain number of medals should be a prerequsite to hosting an event, but this statement makes it seem like Yugoslavia's winter sports tradition was the clincher over Japan and Sweden.

I guess the point is that Yugoslavia as host appealed to everybody, the western countries, the eastern bloc and the non-aligns.

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I dont agree with that - I think Sarajevo was the benefactor of a geopolitical decision - Sapporo got a huge amount of votes - it was by no means a runaway victory...

CITY                                rd1 vote      rd 2 vote

Sarajevo, Yugoslavia                31              39

Sapporo, Japan                       33              36

Gothenburg, Sweden                10               -

I think that Western European nations went after Goteborg (Gothenburg) then switched to Sarajevo simply so the Games would  be in Europe...

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Furthermore, they bosated a certain level of development along with a well-anchored sporting history, particularly as regards winter sports.  

I find this statement a bit odd. Yugoslavia didn't win a single Olympic winter medal until 1984. I don't think winning a certain number of medals should be a prerequsite to hosting an event, but this statement makes it seem like Yugoslavia's winter sports tradition was the clincher over Japan and Sweden.

I guess the point is that Yugoslavia as host appealed to everybody, the western countries, the eastern bloc and the non-aligns.

Hence, a surprise win for Sarajevo. Yugoslavia became the only country, at the time, that did not win a gold medal on home soil for the Winter Olympics. Canada followed that in 1988.

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I dont agree with that - I think Sarajevo was the benefactor of a geopolitical decision - Sapporo got a huge amount of votes - it was by no means a runaway victory...

CITY                                rd1 vote      rd 2 vote

Sarajevo, Yugoslavia                31              39

Sapporo, Japan                       33              36

Gothenburg, Sweden                10               -

I think that Western European nations went after Goteborg (Gothenburg) then switched to Sarajevo simply so the Games would  be in Europe...

Makes you wonder if the "same scenario" as such was used for the 2010 Winter Olympics vote, in terms of "knowhow."

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Well this vote was right in the middle of the 'adidas olympics' phase (Read Lords Of The Rings people!!!) when everything was fixed.  The Eastern Bloc was looking a bit shaky in the late 70's.  Who knew how much longer Communism would reign supreme - lotta money in them Eastern European hills for the prospecting....
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Yes they did, but it has since been destroyed - and I'm not sure if it has been rebuilt.

The only venue that I could think of that was ever rebuilt in Sarajevo was the figure skating venue.

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Same here - but I am sure that the Sarajevo 2010 candidature file promised some reconstruction regardless of the bids success - however this should be a low priority for Sarajevi.  Repairing roads and upgrading their education and medical infrastructure must come first.
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Same here - but I am sure that the Sarajevo 2010 candidature file promised some reconstruction regardless of the bids success - however this should be a low priority for Sarajevi.  Repairing roads and upgrading their education and medical infrastructure must come first.

By the way, isn't there still UN peacekeepers in Bosnia, especially in the Sarajevo area now?

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Same here - but I am sure that the Sarajevo 2010 candidature file promised some reconstruction regardless of the bids success - however this should be a low priority for Sarajevi.  Repairing roads and upgrading their education and medical infrastructure must come first.

i agree, the country/city still is still ruined by war.

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Same here - but I am sure that the Sarajevo 2010 candidature file promised some reconstruction regardless of the bids success - however this should be a low priority for Sarajevi.  Repairing roads and upgrading their education and medical infrastructure must come first.

By the way, isn't there still UN peacekeepers in Bosnia, especially in the Sarajevo area now?

In 1996, the UN stationed 60,000 troops in BiH, which was their biggest peacekeeping mission ever.  They left on January 31, 2002 and were replaced by the EUMP (EU Police - 12,000 of them).

Currently, there is only 7,000 NATO peacekeepers in June of this year they will be replaced by 6,000 EU troops.  By 2007, there will be no foreign troops in on Bosnian soil.

By the way, next month Sarajevo will mark the 20th anniversary of 1984 Winter Olympics. The OIC president and ex-president will be present.

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Isnt there a ceremony planned at Kosovo Stadium in Sarajevo?  I remember reading there is something on there to commemorate it.

It is Koševo, not Kosovo; Kosovo is a Serbian province that will probably get indepedent next year.

The Koševo Olympic Stadium is next to a big graveyard that was made during the war because there was no more space at other graveyards to bury all the victims.

You can see the stadium in the back with green seats:

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I think the ceremony will be held at the Sports Complex "Zetra" that was used for hockey and figure skating during the Olympics in 1984.  It was reconstructed in 1999.  Small part of Zetra can be seen on the picture above, left from the stadium.

Here's a better view of the stadium and Zetra:

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As you can see the Koševo Stadium is in front of Zetra (the arena with the black roof) and right from it, the greenish-white field are all graves.

Also, on the same day the Olympic Museum in Sarajevo will be reopened.  It was badly damanged during the war.

This picture was taken 2 years ago before its reconstruction started:

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Olympic Museum, Sarajevo

But most importantly, using this ceremony Sarajevo will officially announce its 2014 bid.

1984 - 2014!

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How many troops does the UN army have?

The UN does not have its own army.  In a UN peacekeeping mission each (not all) country sends troops to the troubled region and the commander in chief is usually the UN Security Council or in Bosnia's case it was the United States, sadly the only superpower in the world today.

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Same here - but I am sure that the Sarajevo 2010 candidature file promised some reconstruction regardless of the bids success - however this should be a low priority for Sarajevi.  Repairing roads and upgrading their education and medical infrastructure must come first.

i agree, the country/city still is still ruined by war.

Mr. X,

An atomic bomb was not dropped on Sarajevo during the war but it sure looked like Hiroshima, but war was finished in December of 1995 and most of Sarajevo has been rebuilt so far.  Of course there are some parts that still have scars but most of the city looks like there was never war there.

Recent Pictures:

Ferhadija Street

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Orthodox Church

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Pharmacy

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Feeding Pigeons In Downtown

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Alipaša's Valley

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Academy of Fine Arts

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Caffe "Central"

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Park Chess

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Park In Downtown

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Pizza "Hot"

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Restaurant Over-Viewing Sarajevo

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Ferhadija Street

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Mosque "King Fahd"

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Law University

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At Night

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New Residential Building

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Indoor Farmers' Market

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Downtown

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Winter Night

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Unis Towers

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Unis Towers and Roman Catholic Church

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Koševo Hospital

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BHFanaticos - Supporters of National Soccer Team

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BHFanaticos Marchin' Through Sarajevo

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From Air

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