ghost1 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 The cities were: Duesseldorf Frankfurt Hamburg Leipzig Stuttgart What was the at the end ranking/points, what were the criteria of the German NOC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintana Posted January 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I remember I was very surprised Leipzig won it. It seemed by far the weakest candidate to me but maybe they really wanted a former Eastern German city to host it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 HOPE THIS HELPS,,,,, GERMANY'S 2012 NOMINATION INFORMATION UNSUCCESSFUL BIDS/WEBSITES Duesseldorf Frankfurt Stuttgart Hamburg Following are the full and final ballot results of the German Olympic Committee's election to nominate its 2012 Olympic Bid candidate (according to MDR.de). Leipzig won the nomination and Rostock was chosen for sailing. 1st ballot (135 Votes) 1. Leipzig: 55 Votes; 40,7 Percent 2. Hamburg: 27; 20,0 3. Frankfurt: 21; 15,6 4. Düsseldorf: 17; 12,6 5. Stuttgart: 15; 11,1 2nd ballot (134 Votes) 1. Leipzig: 57; 42,5 2. Düsseldorf: 31; 23,1 3. Hamburg: 30; 22,4 4. Frankfurt: 16; 11,9 3rd ballot (135 Votes) 1. Leipzig: 58: 43,0 2. Hamburg: 42: 31,1 3. Düsseldorf: 35; 25,9 4th ballot (132 Votes) 1. Leipzig: 81; 61,4 2. Hamburg: 51; 38,6 Sailing(131 Votes/1 Ballot) 1. Rostock: 69; 52,7 2. Kiel: 46 3. Stralsund: 7 4. Cuxhaven: 6 5. Lübeck: 3 PRE-NOMINATION INFORMATION Germany's National Olympic Committee will vote to nominate their candidate to bid for the 2012 Olympic Games on April 12, 2003 at the Hilton Park Hotel in Munich. The winning city will compete against international cities for the right to host the 2012 Games. The final vote will take place in Singapore in July, 2005 and competitors will include New York and Madrid and possibly Paris, Moscow, London, Rio de Janeiro, Cape Town, Toronto and others. PRESENTATIONS On April 12 the candidates will make final presentations to the NOK in the following order - Hamburg Frankfurt Stuttgart Dusseldorf Leipzig There are five Olympic sail applicants, (Rostock, Stralsund/Ruegen, Luebeck, Kiel and Cuxhaven), also competing. VOTING The voting will take place in Munich at 16:30 local German time. The first ballot results will be announced at approximately 16:40 and there could be up to three additional ballots. If there is no absolute majority on a ballot, the bid with the least amount of votes will be eliminated before the next ballot. When a bid collects the majority of the votes, it will win the nomination. According to Berliner Zeitung, twenty-five NOK members, 16 honorary and 25 ex-officio NOK members, and 32 Olympic sports associations, with three votes each, must decide who the German candidate will be. Out of possible 137 votes, 69 are needed for an absolute majority. EVALUATION REPORT Scores released March 13, 2003. TOTALS Hamburg 428.18 points Leipzig 421.37 points Frankfurt 417.32 points Düsseldorf 409.44 points Stuttgart 408.32 points TOTALS- SAILING Kiel 343.38 points Rostock 335.86 points Lübeck 315.08 points Stralsund 295.45 points Cuxhaven 287.90 points CATEGORY WINNERS Hamburg tops 9 categories Düsseldorf tops 4 categories Frankfurt tops 3 categories Leipzig tops 3 categories Stuttgart tops 1 category SCORES IN IOC CATEGORIES ONLY Hamburg 299.52 points Frankfurt 296.40 points Leipzig 295.36 points Stuttgart 286.06 points Düsseldorf 284.36 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost1 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Thank you very much, Mo! But, does anybody know where I can find the evaluation report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torch-d Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I think, that the report is on the website of the German NOC. (nok.de) I loved our German competition. It was really thrilling and exciting- and for me the first opportunity to be engaged for the Olympic Movement (Stuttgart 2012). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominger Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I also liked it at the end, but I also was very angry about it and wondered why they did something like that. I am still convinced that we only have three cities in Germany which are able to host the Olympic Summer Games (and most of the sport scientists do say so): 1. Berlin 2. Hamburg 3. Munich So my personal opinion is that all the Inner German applicant cities spent loads of money for nothing. Rather Stuttgart, nor Frankfurt, nor Düsseldorf/ Cologne and Leipzig is without chances in an international competition. Therefore I do hope that the German NOC wont do something like this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost1 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I think, that the report is on the website of the German NOC. (nok.de) But I can't find it there! Could someone help, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Given the ratings, it seems that the German Olympic Committee thought the Leipzig bid strong enough to go with and allow for an Eastern city to have a go. Given I always thought the bid quite weak, I find that surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Given the ratings, it seems that the German Olympic Committee thought the Leipzig bid strong enough to go with and allow for an Eastern city to have a go. Given I always thought the bid quite weak, I find that surprising. Leipzig has won, because of a dispute between Düsseldorf and Hamburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost1 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I think, that the report is on the website of the German NOC. (nok.de) But I can't find it there! Could someone help, please! But I can't find it there! Could someone help, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 So my personal opinion is that all the Inner German applicant cities spent loads of money for nothing.Therefore I do hope that the German NOC wont do something like this again. This is exactly what the present USOC, under Peter Ueberroth's direction, is trying to do: minimize useless effort and cost when it'll all come down to the 2 or 3 cities anyway that really stand a good chance of delivering WINNABLE and quality Games: NYC, Chicago and possibly San Francisco -- and not Minneapolis, Santa Fe, Dallas, or I think, even LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torch-d Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I think that all cities had good plans. Duesseldorf was widespread, but had a fantastic concept, leipzig´s new clustering was also ok, Hamburg was compact but they were to self-confident (see Paris). I liked Stuttgart´s plans most-but,as a former bidcommittee-member, that is not very surprising Maybe some impressions of the different campaigns: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I think, that the report is on the website of the German NOC. (nok.de) But I can't find it there! Could someone help, please! But I can't find it there! Could someone help, please! No reports, but nevertheless good links: http://www.nok.de/page.php?art_id=2648 http://www.nok.de/index.php?art_id=2610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominger Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Thanks for the nice pics Daniel!! Yes they all had - and I really watched this competition with great interests and it was good to see that enthusiatsic inhabitants backed their bids. On the other hand it didn`t make any sense to start an inner competition. All these Cities are quite nice and have their nice places and cornerns. But its definetly not enough for the Olympics. So they spent loads for nothing. Noone can be stupid enough to think that there will be any chance to have an Olympics in Frankfurt, Leipzig, Düsseldorf/ Cologne and Stuttgart one day... Its the same with the UK: Birmingham failed for 1992, Manchester for 1996 and 2000 - nice cities, but the majority doesn`t know anything about them. Thats why the British Olympic Association after 1993 did everything to back London for the next time the country intends to bid. London had a reputation and everyone can associate some thing special to this city. It is big enough to solve the problems an Olympics will bring. Aslong as there is noone in the NOC with visions, ideasls, we wont have games here in the next time.... I miss Willi Daume :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 STUTTGART HAMBURG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torch-d Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 STUTTGART Oooh I loved the "ring of cultures". that was something special. direct behind the stadium was the site for the olympic village. The NOC eval. com. said in their report, that an athlet would need at leat 15-20 min to get to the stadion. ha-haaaaaaa !maybe the 83 year old Graf -Landsberg Vehlen (EC chairman)-but not an athlet. This report was full of unspecific and unreal arguments. the venue next to the "Neckar" (the river) was our planned swimming stadion. On the other side was the IOChotel(left) and on the right site the IBC. The stadion is one of the 2006 soccer-stadions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominger Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Yes the Stuttgart concept for the main olympic parc was very good. And I love the Gottlieb Daimler Stadium :-) But unfortunatly it was in the heart of Bad Cannstatt - which still has the industrial touch - not very nice for (international) visitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torch-d Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 But some spectacular plans existed for changing that. (f.e. lightning the gastower in Bad-Cannstatt with a special lightshow) Did you know, that the bid-committee had planned two flame-cauldrons: one near the roof construction and one inside the stadion. both connected with one steal construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torch-d Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 maybe some other pics, demonstrating the passion of the 5 cities: Düsseldorf: Stuttgart: Leipzig: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominger Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Great, great!!! But overal millions of Euros spent for nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wamel042 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 This is an interesting link about the German 2012 nomination.... German 2012 nomination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 maybe some other pics, demonstrating the passion of the 5 cities:Düsseldorf: Stuttgart: Leipzig: Geez. In one of the pictures, is it really necessary to have someone holding that UFP flag with the rest of them? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 It does look like the organisers said that people could only be involved if they brought their own flag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Yeah, but what kind of flag? I don't think the "United Federation of Planets" flag really fits in that picture. The rest of them seems to be okay to show, but that one mentioned kind of irks me a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wamel042 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I think Berlin would be the best candidate for Germany. The city, history and the fantastic Olympic Stadium would make a great Olympics.... The bid of Hamburg 2008 looked very also, but internationally Berlin would make more impact, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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