ioanniskgr Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 For me it was the Atlanta olympic games because they didn;t have good stadiums,the transport system was not very good,the opening ceremony except for the lighting of the torc was not good and it was a little bid like an american movie and of course the security was very low and that's why the terrorist explosion in the park.Whic city do u think organized the worst olympics of the past 50 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic USA Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 This topic has been discussed before many times. However I certainly don't disagree with your comments about Atlanta. As for the worst Olympics ever, I honestly can't judge them. I haven't been to all of them, have you? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Depends on your criteria. I enjoyed Atlanta, but the crowds seemed dissinterested at Nagano - and thus I left Nagano thinking they were a bad host - not as far as organising the Games - but in the lack of local interest. A city shouldn't bid for a Games if the residents don't want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Depends on your criteria. I enjoyed Atlanta, but the crowds seemed dissinterested at Nagano - and thus I left Nagano thinking they were a bad host - not as far as organising the Games - but in the lack of local interest.A city shouldn't bid for a Games if the residents don't want them. Wasn't it because the Japanese were in a middle of a major deflation/recession of the national economy? It was rather amazing that it had lots of money to spend for the Winter Olympics in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 They won the bid prior to the economy going belly up - and all venues had commenced construction - I recall the M Wave had seating scaled back to cut costs. Nagano was weird - there was a lot of rumours of corruption, and a lot of public criticism. If Nagano residents were offered a referendum to choose whether or not to keep the Games, It would've probably been a no vote that won. The locals knew there was no use for the huge venues - and that they would be paying for the Games for years. Ticket prices were very steep as well - and Nagano isnt a rich city - it is working class in the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 They won the bid prior to the economy going belly up - and all venues had commenced construction - I recall the M Wave had seating scaled back to cut costs.Nagano was weird - there was a lot of rumours of corruption, and a lot of public criticism. If Nagano residents were offered a referendum to choose whether or not to keep the Games, It would've probably been a no vote that won. The locals knew there was no use for the huge venues - and that they would be paying for the Games for years. Ticket prices were very steep as well - and Nagano isnt a rich city - it is working class in the majority. You mean the supposed "book-burning, Nazi-style" of the costs of the Nagano Games? In any case, you may be right on these fronts, thatsnotmypuppy. For example, I wonder how much passenger use is the bullet-train service to Nagano from the rest of Japan is right now. Also, there was talk, to me at least, of venues being torn down or moved out altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic USA Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 However I certainly don't disagree with your comments about Atlanta. Made a typo, I meant to say I certainly DO disagree with your comments about Atlanta. In reality from what i've heard, Atlanta was not as bad as people made it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Oh great...another "let's bash Atlanta" thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 It sure looks like it. BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE. See this link -- Previous GB's Atlanta discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic USA Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Oh great...another "let's bash Atlanta" thread... Just what I was thinking Kendegra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 There has been talk of moving the Big Hat to Hiroshima - but I haven't heard any other news since the idea was first floated. There is no use for the Big Hat, White Ring and M Wave to all be in Nagano. This is a city of just under 400,000. In central Japan. Really bad place for a Games. I am also pretty certain that the bullet train services have been reduced to Nagano?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA84 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 What is the big hat? That thing Midori Ito wore when she lit the caldroun? :upside: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.x Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Atlanta isn't as bad as many of you have stated. here's my list: 1) Munich - athletes were killed, terrorists 2) Athens - financially the worst ever, not to mention tons of white elephant venues, more than ever before, horribly organized, and worst image in the world for a Olympic Games yet 3) Montreal - was the worst games financially before Athens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 There has been talk of moving the Big Hat to Hiroshima - but I haven't heard any other news since the idea was first floated.There is no use for the Big Hat, White Ring and M Wave to all be in Nagano. This is a city of just under 400,000. In central Japan. Really bad place for a Games. I am also pretty certain that the bullet train services have been reduced to Nagano?? We'll see, after the city hosts next year's Special Olympics World Winter Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 That will draw a huge crowd. Whoops, sarcasm. I made a few friends I keep in touch with in Nagano haphazardly - and they are negative. Taxes are wasted on upkeep, the rinks admittance fees are too expensive for the general public to skate or train there, and the buildings stick out aesthetically. The people of Nagano have voted - and they have voted nay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 I really hate this question. What defines it as "the worst"? Maybe if part of the stadium fell down, most of the winning athletes failed drug tests and the organizers went on vacation after the Opening Ceremony...but what criteria defines the worst? Munich? Well organized, wonderful facilities, and a festive first week. The terrorists were tragic, but weren't part of the planning. Remember, this was the first real terrorist attack ever! It was a complete shock to the entire world. Security was not as high on the charts as it would be after the Munich Games. Montreal? Again, the events went off well. Construction and finances were a mess, but the games went off and Montreal provided excellent competitions and in the form of a 14 year old girl one of the greatest athletic performances of all time. Isn't that what its about? Moscow? Sure, they were boycotted, but that was Jimmy Carter's fault. It was all about embarrassing the Soviets. Like the West really gave a hoot about Afghanistan! You didn't see the western world get all huffy over LA 1984 when Reagan invaded Grenada in 1983, did you? Atlanta? OK, so it wasn't the centennial that the Greeks had envisioned for themselves, but again we had great competitions and performances. Atlanta also planned the games "smartly" - the venues were reutilized and reconfigured to meet the city's post Games needs with out crippling them with debt or empty buildings. The commercial aspects were the City's fault, not ACOG. And the bombing...did it happen on an officially sanctioned Olympic site? I hate this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsnotmypuppy Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 I agree with you - it's a terrible question. Frankly my response was based on the fact that the people of Nagano weren't sure they wanted the Games, they regret the huge costs and at the time weren't excited they had them. In my eyes if a city can't get excited about a Games, then its a failure on many levels - regardless how well they run. The reasons why people have listed Montreal, Munich et al seem to have little to do with the actual two weeks of sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA84 Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 I never would have even answered this question except, as per usual on these boards it was another setup for Atlanta or to bash the U.S. - choose one. What is this, like the 4-5th topic about "The Worst Games?" And I am sorry - yes, perhaps it wasn't to everyones liking but Atlanta was a gamess that not only paid off themselves but also paid off the City of Atlanta's debt! I'm sure Athens wishes they could say the same thing in about a year when the tax bills start rolling in. There are many games that had problems including Melbourne to add to Mr. X's list. So, I finally decided to answer this question honestly and not be so nice on this topic. And if it gets brought up again, I will expound on my answers further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aronious Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Atlanta isn't as bad as many of you have stated. here's my list:1) Munich - athletes were killed, terrorists 2) Athens - financially the worst ever, not to mention tons of white elephant venues, more than ever before, horribly organized, and worst image in the world for a Olympic Games yet 3) Montreal - was the worst games financially before Athens mr.x, i would be careful of what you say, would you like these things said about Vancouver 2010 is they wernt all that good? Anyway, my list (Summer only) 1. Atlanta, no im not an Atlanta basher 2. Montreal, bad organisation 3. Moscow, boycott, and other things, no need to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA84 Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Never mind - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOlympiadsW Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 I never would have even answered this question except, as per usual on these boards it was another setup for Atlanta or to bash the U.S. - choose one.What is this, like the 4-5th topic about "The Worst Games?" And I am sorry - yes, perhaps it wasn't to everyones liking but Atlanta was a gamess that not only paid off themselves but also paid off the City of Atlanta's debt! I'm sure Athens wishes they could say the same thing in about a year when the tax bills start rolling in. There are many games that had problems including Melbourne to add to Mr. X's list. So, I finally decided to answer this question honestly and not be so nice on this topic. And if it gets brought up again, I will expound on my answers further. I definately agree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 I really hate this question. What defines it as "the worst"? Maybe if part of the stadium fell down, most of the winning athletes failed drug tests and the organizers went on vacation after the Opening Ceremony...but what criteria defines the worst?Munich? Well organized, wonderful facilities, and a festive first week. The terrorists were tragic, but weren't part of the planning. Remember, this was the first real terrorist attack ever! It was a complete shock to the entire world. Security was not as high on the charts as it would be after the Munich Games. Montreal? Again, the events went off well. Construction and finances were a mess, but the games went off and Montreal provided excellent competitions and in the form of a 14 year old girl one of the greatest athletic performances of all time. Isn't that what its about? Moscow? Sure, they were boycotted, but that was Jimmy Carter's fault. It was all about embarrassing the Soviets. Like the West really gave a hoot about Afghanistan! You didn't see the western world get all huffy over LA 1984 when Reagan invaded Grenada in 1983, did you? Atlanta? OK, so it wasn't the centennial that the Greeks had envisioned for themselves, but again we had great competitions and performances. Atlanta also planned the games "smartly" - the venues were reutilized and reconfigured to meet the city's post Games needs with out crippling them with debt or empty buildings. The commercial aspects were the City's fault, not ACOG. And the bombing...did it happen on an officially sanctioned Olympic site? I hate this question. ... thanks Kendegra, I totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bris_2016 Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Plenty of people have asked this questuion over time, just wich ones were the worst? Well if you go from the olympic movement's point of view than Moscow and Los Angeles wore the least sucessful because politics dominated them. The blame can't lie more heavily on either side, Jimmy Carter decided to turn the 1980 games into another battlefield of the cold war,and then the soviets had their revenge boycott. Each olympics brought something special to the movement, and left a positive legacy in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micheal_warren Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 for me it would be munich only because of the terrorist attacks and then it would be moscow because of the mass boycott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinite_Olympics Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Worst Olympics? 'Tis an Oxymoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.