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Which city will win 2014?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Abuja
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    • Glasgow
      20
    • Halifax
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To look at the entire thing objectively, Abuja will probably win due to one main issue: it will have the vast majority of African, Asian and Caribbean member votes while the remaining members will probably be split between Halifax and Glasgow. Also, one only needs to look at the massive success of Kingston '66 and Kuala Lumpur '98 to see that taking a risk on developing countries has paid off in the past. And what a risk Abuja will be. I don't know where they will hide their poor during the Games, but they do seem to have excellent facilities and the experience of hosting a major sporting event (All-Africa Games 2003).

Last but not least, it would take a squeaky clean, unbelievably appealing bid to beat Abuja, but unfortunately, the Glasgow and Halifax bids are beset by particular inadequacies. Since 1970, Victoria is the only 'small town' city (by that I mean population under 250, 000) to host the Games, and much larger cities have been able to better handle the burden of the events rising costs, so that should be the death knell for Halifax, the smallest of the 3 bidders. For Glasgow, even if they do win the Games, the British government (while supportive now) will be hard to pry funds from considering the rising costs of London 2012.

While, I believe that Abuja will win, I think that to cut down on the costs of bidding the Commonwealth Games Federation should take a leaf from the book of the IAAF which has several cities bidding at the same time for the hosting rights to both the 2011 AND 2013 World Athletics C'ships (GO BRISBANE!!!!!!). That way, they could look at a pool of 3-5 cities and award 2 of them future concurrent Games. That way, a deserving city like Glasgow wont be disappointed.

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Why do you bother with preaching the same points over and over and over? Im not going to make a statement on this because you already know what I would say.

The guy (Jim Jones) is a moron who has no idea what he is talking about... I don't even pay attention to him anymore.

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Since 1970, Victoria is the only 'small town' city (by that I mean population under 250, 000) to host the Games, and much larger cities have been able to better handle the burden of the events rising costs, so that should be the death knell for Halifax, the smallest of the 3 bidders.

Although Halifax is the smallest of the 3 cities, its a fair margin larger than under 250,000, as is Victoria, having 330,000 and Halifax at approx. 400,000. I am not sure how much this will impact the decision making. Can anyone shed some light?

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I think that to cut down on the costs of bidding the Commonwealth Games Federation should ............has several cities bidding at the same time for the hosting rights.......... That way, they could look at a pool of 3-5 cities and award 2 of them future concurrent Games. That way, a deserving city like Glasgow wont be disappointed.

Rumour has it that the Hamilton 2010 bidding team were offered this - to let New Delhi have 2010, and Hamilton would be awarded 2014 automatically. But they declined this offer.

If this is true, then the Hamilton people must be kicking themselves, because they didn't win the 2014 Canadian race. Halifax was chosen. Hamilton will have to wait for 2018 at the earliest.

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It did happen, there was news article about so it isn't a rumour. When the Hamilton team was in Jamaica the Commonwealth Federation approached the Hamilton team and said they would make a deal to automatically award Hamilton the 2014 Commonwealth Games. But Sheila Copps refused to accept the offer and said its 2010 or nothing.

So after all that the Canadian Commonwealth Federation said it will give the Canadian bid to Hamilton for the 2014 Games. But Sports Canada interfered and demanded an open bidding process. Then all of a sudden Halifax wins. Many on the Hamilton team felt offended and smelt bribe was happening. Some believe the domestic bidding process was set up.

Hate opening up old wounds. I was told to shut up and just let Halifax proceed and not give them a damaged image.

National bid boss favoured East Coast

By Barb Mckay

(Dec 20, 2005)

The man who oversaw Canada's choice for the Commonwealth Games recommended two years ago that international sporting events be directed to the East Coast.

Eric Savard, bid director for the competition that chose Halifax over Hamilton as Canada's 2014 Games candidate, helped draft a 2003 report recommending a world class event be given to the Maritimes in the next decade to "achieve a better regional balance of sport infrastructure and legacy."

Another member of the working group that made the recommendation was Fred MacGillivray, a Halifax businessman who chaired that city's bid.

And the vice-chair of Hamilton's bid committee says he'd like to have that connection explained when Commonwealth Games Canada debriefs the city on its unsuccessful bid.

"That's one question I would have in the debriefing in January," said David Adames, Tourism Hamilton executive director. "I don't want to speculate yet."

The group's recommendation was never adopted by the federal government. But the Ottawa official who commissioned the study says it could well have influenced the bid committee.

Paul DeVillers was Canada's Secretary of State for Physical Activity and Sport when he appointed the working group that made the recommendation.

"I would expect the Commonwealth Games Committee (CGC) would take infrastructure needs into account," he said. "It's possible that was one consideration and that was the reason (Halifax) was chosen."

The federal cabinet has adopted a new policy that does not call for events to be sent to the East Coast. Parliament must still approve that policy.

MacGillivray and Savard said they were only part of the group that made the East Coast recommendation. They insisted the process was fair.

Bid director Savard referred comment to his spokesperson Lynn Gordon, who said Savard was only one of a six-person panel that chose Halifax.

"As far as we're concerned, it was a fair and open process," Gordon said.

DeVillers said he didn't believe there was a conflict of interest in having Savard and MacGillivray take part in the domestic bid process, because the strategic framework was developed for everyone to use.

"I don't feel that developing this strategy should preclude them from taking part in the bidding process," he said.

MacGillivray said he believes the proposal had nothing to do with the bid selection.

"It was very fair, easily understood," he said. "Had we not been successful, I could not have complained to the CGC."

MacGillivray said he's glad the bid was opened up to the rest of Canada after it was believed last year that Hamilton would receive the Games.

"Any city that feels it has the ability to host should be given the opportunity," he said.

Members of Hamilton's 2014 committee say they were approached more than a year ago by CGC's board, which indicated it passed a unanimous vote to make Hamilton Canada's bid at the international level, following its loss to India for the 2010 Games. An internal CGC document indicated the Hamilton bid is "quite winnable."

Last March, city officials heard rumours the bids would be opened to other cities and in June a letter confirmed that.

Canadian Heritage spokes-person Donald Boulanger said Sport Canada contacted CGC, urging them to open the process.

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well apple I think we have a desception of the public in regards to the internal politics surrounding the domestic process RE 2014. I cant see how halifax could possibly warrent more consideration when it was hamilton that had constructed the new field hockey facility on the campus of mac master university thanks to the alumni, ron joyce and the other hamilton business man whos name escapes me. Halifax has not done one single project for sports infrastructure pertaining to a commonwealth games since Fred Mac Gillirvay actually was a business man running oshawa foods business under the Bolands brand in the martimes. Mr. Macgillirvay has been a career bureaucrate running the Trade Centre Inc. Operation for much of the 1990's and even today. A career bureaucrate like most who is not acountable to shareholders or onwership like he was with Oshawa Foods which was bought by Stellarton Grocery Giant Sobeys Foods INC.

The tories got left with something they dont want to fund and it was a development plan by paul martin for africas development this time around.

Paul Martin almost refused funding for the 2005 Fina World aquatic championship in 2005 which would have effected his very own contituents in Montreal if both the province of quebec and the federal government of canada had not put 16 million a piece in Fina 2005.

There are no old wounds to be open just the pointing out of the idiotic situation we are in with amateur athletics in this country. Mr Mac gillivray and company have spent more on their globe hopping across the planet then is put into amateur athletics in the maritime on an annual basis.

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The guy (Jim Jones) is a moron who has no idea what he is talking about... I don't even pay attention to him anymore.

HA yes you have provided some great case of why halifax will win this bid. The only thing pro games supporters in halifax can do is try to throw up the smoke screen of Nigeria being an unstable country or Glasgow being 2 years after london. Who is the real moron in this arguement ???? The Guy who ignores the strenght of the competiting cities and the history of bids awardings.

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It did happen, there was news article about so it isn't a rumour. When the Hamilton team was in Jamaica the Commonwealth Federation approached the Hamilton team and said they would make a deal to automatically award Hamilton the 2014 Commonwealth Games. But Sheila Copps refused to accept the offer and said its 2010 or nothing.

So after all that the Canadian Commonwealth Federation said it will give the Canadian bid to Hamilton for the 2014 Games. But Sports Canada interfered and demanded an open bidding process. Then all of a sudden Halifax wins. Many on the Hamilton team felt offended and smelt bribe was happening. Some believe the domestic bidding process was set up.

Hate opening up old wounds. I was told to shut up and just let Halifax proceed and not give them a damaged image.

Well Donavan Bailey must have been beside himself , A Multiple olympic gold medalist for canada onboard for the hamilton 2010 bid travelling to kingston jamiaca to face a sham like that ???? The Federation has a problem and it is that past awardings have left the majority of the commonwealth without equal hostings. The money is in theory with the developing commonwealth but that is changing and place like kuala lumpar are expressin largess in their hostings when they do get it

It is certainly something that can actually end the games in a big broad hit. If the federation was to overturn a majority decision by the developing commonwealth in favour of Abuja then they could kiss the whol thing good bye . Especially if a feeble attempt at so called regional developed was allowed over a SET of world classed facilites. IF it is not abuja it will be glasgow for the simple reason glasgow is atleast somewheres cost in quality of facilites

Halifax ppppppppppppuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrffffffffffffffff they cant even clean up point pleasant park after huricane juan several years ago.

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The reason being that if Glasgow wins the 2014 commonwealth games, it may intefere with Englands bid to host the 2018 FIFA world cup.

I'm not entirely convinced of the logic that a Scottish Commonwealth Games would interfere with an English football World Cup bid.

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comm games dont feature on FIFA radar

you are right there MO the comm games are minor in the largest scheme of the sports world. Fifas new tv deal with ESPN and ABC in the states would be equal to the capital investment budget to melbourne 2006. The capital budget for the commonwealth games may be a big dealfor the hosting city because yuo just dont get

the same TV rights revenues because the commonwealth does not include the united states, most of western europe and no real major tv markets in asia like japan or south korea. The sponsorship side is the other side of the coin that does not even compare between the two sports festivals. The ironic thing is thw world cup, winter olympics and commonwealth games all come in the same years which makes for fewer dollar available for a commonwealth games. Perhaps having the games on an odd numbered year could help with tv right and sposnorship althought you are only drawing on 30 percent of the population of the world with most of that being developing countries. The majority are not huge consumer economies yet.

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A very sudden glitch has appeared in the notion that Abuja is a dead cert to win the race for 2014. The following story appeared on GamesBids on January 5:

[A Nigerian website reports that five months to the closing of submissions of bids for the 2014 Commonwealth Games the bid committee has not yet put a bid package in place.

According to Vanguard, a “dependable” source said that an Australian consultant who was expected to package Nigeria’s dossier has since dropped the idea as his demands were not met. The source said other countries bidding to host the 2014 Commonwealth Games – Canada and Scotland – have already completed their bid dossiers and sent them to the Commonwealth Games Committee.

The source added that the foot-dragging of bid committee members was responsible for its inability to contract the packaging of the bid dossier, which is to be submitted in May. “From the way the bid committee is going about the bid, I have the fear that the country would run into a ditch” said the source.]

Sounds to me like Abuja 2014 is either suffering from "overconfidence" or "overincompetence". I realise that they still have a few months to get their act together, but this does not bode well as the CGF will be watching closely. Maybe the Nigerians are believing the hype surrounding their almost unloseable position in the 2014 vote. All I know is that hot favourites have a way of digging themselves into a hole a la Nagoya '88, Athens '96, Beijing 2000, Paris 2012 & San Francisco 2016.

Now is the time for Glasgow and Halifax to pounce and make up some lost ground.

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A very sudden glitch has appeared in the notion that Abuja is a dead cert to win the race for 2014. The following story appeared on GamesBids on January 5:

[A Nigerian website reports that five months to the closing of submissions of bids for the 2014 Commonwealth Games the bid committee has not yet put a bid package in place.

According to Vanguard, a “dependable” source said that an Australian consultant who was expected to package Nigeria’s dossier has since dropped the idea as his demands were not met. The source said other countries bidding to host the 2014 Commonwealth Games – Canada and Scotland – have already completed their bid dossiers and sent them to the Commonwealth Games Committee.

The source added that the foot-dragging of bid committee members was responsible for its inability to contract the packaging of the bid dossier, which is to be submitted in May. “From the way the bid committee is going about the bid, I have the fear that the country would run into a ditch” said the source.]

Sounds to me like Abuja 2014 is either suffering from "overconfidence" or "overincompetence". I realise that they still have a few months to get their act together, but this does not bode well as the CGF will be watching closely. Maybe the Nigerians are believing the hype surrounding their almost unloseable position in the 2014 vote. All I know is that hot favourites have a way of digging themselves into a hole a la Nagoya '88, Athens '96, Beijing 2000, Paris 2012 & San Francisco 2016.

Now is the time for Glasgow and Halifax to pounce and make up some lost ground.

Halifax has absolutely nothing to pounce with. Since mid last week a political scandal has broken out in nova scotia for the minority conservative government.

A cabinet Minister it has come to light left the scene of a traffic accident and ran a red light. The incident happened two months ago and the cries of a cover up by the police for a government official is in the media and the public. The tories today had a protest of hog farms from rural nova scotia and the agriculture minister was on the defensive saying the province could not afford to help the farmers out with money because it is illegal to run a budget deficit. Well the tories have some tuff choices to make up the 3.5 million dollar shortfall. A commonwealth games bid has 3,5 million in provincial money and if the bid is not killed the tories will probably have to face a non confidence vote, any election and being thrown out of office. The tories base of support is not in halifax it is in the rural areas outside the city. Considering the amount of pissed off people calling open line shows about what cabinet ministers are spending a month of leased cars and the DUI cabinet minsiter scandal I dont think the premier would dare risk his government by opening up the piggy bank for the commonwealth games. The bid was over when the federal government presented the turd for commonwealth games fudning for the premier and the mayor of halifax to shine.

This bid is abuja's to lose and glasgows to win. Halifax is out of this because it is a totally out to lunch idea by some halifax city boosters and career sports bureaucrates.

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Halifax has absolutely nothing to pounce with. Since mid last week a political scandal has broken out in nova scotia for the minority conservative government.

A cabinet Minister it has come to light left the scene of a traffic accident and ran a red light. The incident happened two months ago and the cries of a cover up by the police for a government official is in the media and the public. The tories today had a protest of hog farms from rural nova scotia and the agriculture minister was on the defensive saying the province could not afford to help the farmers out with money because it is illegal to run a budget deficit. Well the tories have some tuff choices to make up the 3.5 million dollar shortfall. A commonwealth games bid has 3,5 million in provincial money and if the bid is not killed the tories will probably have to face a non confidence vote, any election and being thrown out of office. The tories base of support is not in halifax it is in the rural areas outside the city. Considering the amount of pissed off people calling open line shows about what cabinet ministers are spending a month of leased cars and the DUI cabinet minsiter scandal I dont think the premier would dare risk his government by opening up the piggy bank for the commonwealth games. The bid was over when the federal government presented the turd for commonwealth games fudning for the premier and the mayor of halifax to shine.

This bid is abuja's to lose and glasgows to win. Halifax is out of this because it is a totally out to lunch idea by some halifax city boosters and career sports bureaucrates.

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In you're dreams Jim... what a bunch of BS Jim you are so out to lunch.

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Jim, what does Ernie Fage's traffic mishap have to do with the CWG? its a completely unrelated topic. And you are seriously making Nova Scotia's situation look much much worse than it is in reality, just to gain support of people who don't even live in Halifax to begin with. Besides, what are your arguments going to change? it's not like anybody here are part of the final deciding process. In my honest opinion, you take away that African voting bloc that you like to preach so much about, and Abuja would be by far the least attractive bid IMO. And still, I really don't think that voting bloc is going to come through.

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Jim, what does Ernie Fage's traffic mishap have to do with the CWG? its a completely unrelated topic. And you are seriously making Nova Scotia's situation look much much worse than it is in reality, just to gain support of people who don't even live in Halifax to begin with. Besides, what are your arguments going to change? it's not like anybody here are part of the final deciding process. In my honest opinion, you take away that African voting bloc that you like to preach so much about, and Abuja would be by far the least attractive bid IMO. And still, I really don't think that voting bloc is going to come through.

wow wishblade do you actually live in the real world ???? Have you seen the venues they have on the ground today in abuja ??? the venues techinically are the best of the three cities. Least attractive bid ??? Halifax is in a fairytale world to think no stadium , no velodrome ,no aquatics centre and no athletes village compares to both glasgow and abujas sets of venues on the ground today.

The words that come out Scott Logans mouth are incredible "What’s been an eye-opener for me is that the majority of the Commonwealth countries are in fact developing countries," Scott Logan, CEO of Halifax 2014, said Tuesday.

DAH yes scott the majority of the commonwealth countries are in fact developing countries and that is why it is a nothing games with a huge amount of debt. There are no tv revenues or sponsorship revenues that come event close to capital and operating expenses because many people in developing countries in the commonwealth dont have television sets . It is also the majority being developing nations that have voted for fellow developing nations in the cities of new delhi and kuala lumpar.

Ernie Fage and other issues of confidence could bring the government down and the provincial funding is in limbo.Rodney wants to hold on to power and that pwoer comes from people like the hog farmers of the annapolis valley not the granola eaters on spring garden road. Considering the habours solutions project is three months behind in some parts because of the shortage of labour even the mayor is getting questioned about how halifax would be able to keep a construction of

commonwealth games venues on time and on budget. Quess what they wouldnt be able to do it. Michael Baker is looking for 3 million to balance and I have a hint for him . Withdrawn the commonwealth games bid funding and prevent a financial disaster for the province and the city.

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Jim a) you don't live in the city, so any argument from you is kind of dross, because you don't pay nearly as much taxes as those that do live there. B) You want to talk about the real world? What could be better for Halifax, than to make connections to the developing world? What port are manufacturers, and other developing country businesses going to think of first, when they want to start selling to Canada and the US? How about the city that just hosted a huge games that their country just won medals at? So what you're really saying is you don't want a city (that you don't even live in), shouldn't put its name out into the world as not only a sporting, and entertainment destination, but as a business destination, and watch as they ship to Montreal or New York, and rail it in. Gee thanks Jim, it's good to know people are thinking about our Region, as well as our future. Pompous ass...

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Jim a) you don't live in the city, so any argument from you is kind of dross, because you don't pay nearly as much taxes as those that do live there. B) You want to talk about the real world? What could be better for Halifax, than to make connections to the developing world? What port are manufacturers, and other developing country businesses going to think of first, when they want to start selling to Canada and the US? How about the city that just hosted a huge games that their country just won medals at? So what you're really saying is you don't want a city (that you don't even live in), shouldn't put its name out into the world as not only a sporting, and entertainment destination, but as a business destination, and watch as they ship to Montreal or New York, and rail it in. Gee thanks Jim, it's good to know people are thinking about our Region, as well as our future. Pompous ass...

Please spare me that there is any positive economic value in the commonwealth games with regards to developing nations.

Lets take one of our competitor in this bid thing Abuja Nigeria. Nigeria has one of the richest men in britian owning their national airline now and that man is

Sir Richard Branson of the Virgin Group is a 49 percent owner of virgin nigerian airways. Well where do you think Sir Richard has applied to have the airline return to fly direct flight into halifax ???? No new york city. Considering Fred Mac Gillirvay and company see it fit to burn more money on their business class seat ticket to doha qatr cost then most of these countries make annually in per captia GDP . That is how stupid courting the commonwealth is. And Who cares whether I live in halifax or not it will increase taxes out here and it is totally nieve of you to assume any real beenifts comes from a commonwealth games. 40 million us for the tv rights, 40 million of rht merchantdize rights and you basically get nothing in return. No one watches the commonwealth games dont be so delusional. India paid 450,000 dollars total for cwg tv rights in 2006, Asia paid 450,000 dollars in 2006 , the entire continent of africa paid 12,000 dollars for the rights in 2002. So

what the benefit when you have to pay for their athletics and subsidize their TV entertainment if their population bases actually all have tvs and are watching.

The developing commonwealth is doing its own trade deals internally and countries of color especially in the carribbean know the kirk johnson stain on our record from the halifax police.

Halifax a business destination pppppppppppppppppffffffffffiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Certainly not because of a commonwealth games. LOL

with what happened to montreal because of the olympics we will be in the same situation that any investor in their right mind would stay away because of the debt service of a nothing event .

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JJ is really hung up on issues of race.

well lets consider this issue . Nigeria for example stood in solidarity with many of the Africa nations and lead to boycott the Montreal 1976 games against

apartheid in South Africa. Who do you think the africans will stand with a nation they boycotted, Canada, or a nation that lead the boycott against racism Nigeria?

Canada was boycotted by the people who you now try to lobby while one of their own is biding for the games. It may not be totally a vote of african

nations for Abuja but it certainly will be near that. We dont have much in regard to bilaterial relations with africa however the trade links between nigeria and the rest of the developing commonwealth are there. It wasnt Jamiacians or Malasyians beating the crap out of Indians when Gandhi and his people were getting struck by canes by british soldiers.

IT WAS CLEARLY WHITE ANGLO SAXON from the developed so called civilized commonwealth.

Until you walk in a person of colors shoes you really dont know exactly what they think and this crap about Nigeria being an unattractive place as far as the bid.

Well the sidewalks of a downtown that a African American sailor Died arent very attractive either in the eyes of a person of color who just happen to make up the vast

majority of the votes in this contest. Considering the the president of the IAAF has given his endorsement of the abuja bid (a black man from senegal) the presidents of South Africa , Namibia, Zambia, Sierra Leone have sent letters of bid support to the president of Nigeria the way this is going to go is by race like it or not.

Halifax only splits the minority vote with glasgow or a very small part of vote of color that does not vote for abuja. The reason for the IAAF president to give his endorsement is very simple Abuja national stadium is a class A facility for that body and both glasgow and halifax do not have that yet.

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well lets consider this issue . Nigeria for example stood in solidarity with many of the Africa nations and lead to boycott the Montreal 1976 games against

apartheid in South Africa. Who do you think the africans will stand with a nation they boycotted, Canada, or a nation that lead the boycott against racism Nigeria?

Canada was boycotted by the people who you now try to lobby while one of their own is biding for the games. It may not be totally a vote of african

nations for Abuja but it certainly will be near that. We dont have much in regard to bilaterial relations with africa however the trade links between nigeria and the rest of the developing commonwealth are there. It wasnt Jamiacians or Malasyians beating the crap out of Indians when Gandhi and his people were getting struck by canes by british soldiers.

IT WAS CLEARLY WHITE ANGLO SAXON from the developed so called civilized commonwealth.

Until you walk in a person of colors shoes you really dont know exactly what they think and this crap about Nigeria being an unattractive place as far as the bid.

Well the sidewalks of a downtown that a African American sailor Died arent very attractive either in the eyes of a person of color who just happen to make up the vast

majority of the votes in this contest. Considering the the president of the IAAF has given his endorsement of the abuja bid (a black man from senegal) the presidents of South Africa , Namibia, Zambia, Sierra Leone have sent letters of bid support to the president of Nigeria the way this is going to go is by race like it or not.

Halifax only splits the minority vote with glasgow or a very small part of vote of color that does not vote for abuja. The reason for the IAAF president to give his endorsement is very simple Abuja national stadium is a class A facility for that body and both glasgow and halifax do not have that yet.

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That totally solidifies the point that joehowe was trying to make. You seem to be the only one on this forum who is beating the issue of race to death. In my mind, I say if Abuja thinks its going to win on race alone without a solid bid, they don't deserve it in the least.

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That totally solidifies the point that joehowe was trying to make. You seem to be the only one on this forum who is beating the issue of race to death. In my mind, I say if Abuja thinks its going to win on race alone without a solid bid, they don't deserve it in the least.

Well you see the one supporting halifax and saying that abuja is the least attractive of the three cities is you or your teenaged buddies there. Continue to ignore not only history with Africa not hosting these games but that they also have all the facilities in place today . A 60,000 seat stadium that is an IAAF Class A track and field facility that neither Glasgow or Halifax does not have , A world classed aquatics centre glasgow has in common with abuja but not halifax, a world classed arena abuja has and you could say Halifax has as well but Glasgow is building , a world class field hockey pitch that all three cities really have to different degrees,

Abuja is the only one with the schurmann velodrome on the ground today and that it the best in the world in the Eyes of the IOC and the sports body that rules over track cycling. Joe howes points really are based in an airey fairy fantasy of halifax being superior the national capital of a nation in africa that is debt free an has these facilites in hand today. I am not completely sure of the report but considering the nigerians have a construction company from china renovating a soccer stadium in port harcourt and there is press report that nigeria's bid may include soccer we maybe in for a little bid more then you people in the supercity think.

considering that countries history in basketball with stars in the NBA I think Abuja may actually thru that into the ring.

So answer this question is their any promoters talking about getting 5 million dollars to help host a national football league game in a stadium in halifax ???

Well guess what their is in Abuja. whether it happens frankly I wouldnt buy into it if i was in the government of nigeria.

Yes there are others here who share my view that abuja is likely to have a support based on race or rather common colonial dealings with the motherland.

Hey how does a Mark Parent ,a nova scotia MLA, lobbying trinidad and tobago to vote for Halifax when this year that country is part of the group o carribbean nations hosting the world cup of cricket? T&T had to build a new stadium to the specs of the international body , that stadium was paid for with 50 percent of the funds coming from the peoples republic of china. Then you have to think that Mark Parent was politely laffed at after he left that country as in port of prince ,the capital, they actually do have a modern stadium of 25,000 seats they used along with other for the Fifa U-20 world cup in 2001. So what gives with these canucks

thinking we would vote on architects drawings when one of our partners in the world cup of cricket Guyanna actually was able to tour Abuja National Stadium in december while they were their for the south american/ africa summit Held in the same sports park at their conference centre???

Just out of shear stupidity the developing nations must be laffing at the parade of baffoons from halifax which couldnt even sell out a rolling stones show let alone have the former premier go thru the proper procedures to fund the bid. We have to be the laffing stock of everyone associated with this.

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Please spare me that there is any positive economic value in the commonwealth games with regards to developing nations.

Lets take one of our competitor in this bid thing Abuja Nigeria. Nigeria has one of the richest men in britian owning their national airline now and that man is

Sir Richard Branson of the Virgin Group is a 49 percent owner of virgin nigerian airways. Well where do you think Sir Richard has applied to have the airline return to fly direct flight into halifax ???? No new york city. Considering Fred Mac Gillirvay and company see it fit to burn more money on their business class seat ticket to doha qatr cost then most of these countries make annually in per captia GDP . That is how stupid courting the commonwealth is. And Who cares whether I live in halifax or not it will increase taxes out here and it is totally nieve of you to assume any real beenifts comes from a commonwealth games. 40 million us for the tv rights, 40 million of rht merchantdize rights and you basically get nothing in return. No one watches the commonwealth games dont be so delusional. India paid 450,000 dollars total for cwg tv rights in 2006, Asia paid 450,000 dollars in 2006 , the entire continent of africa paid 12,000 dollars for the rights in 2002. So

what the benefit when you have to pay for their athletics and subsidize their TV entertainment if their population bases actually all have tvs and are watching.

The developing commonwealth is doing its own trade deals internally and countries of color especially in the carribbean know the kirk johnson stain on our record from the halifax police.

Halifax a business destination pppppppppppppppppffffffffffiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Certainly not because of a commonwealth games. LOL

with what happened to montreal because of the olympics we will be in the same situation that any investor in their right mind would stay away because of the debt service of a nothing event .

jim jones

So you're saying the Olympics are a nothing event? Another reason to dicredit your opinion. The Kirk Johnson issue? He was picked up for driving around with a known drug dealer you frickin dolt! Once agian twisting facts to fit your logic. It's not the games directly you one eyed, reading boob. The world attention it would bring us. You know for a fact that you would never have heard of Lillihammer, or Abduja if it were not for the games. (meaning any international games). Of course Richard Branson would own 49% of Virgin Nigerian Airways, HE OWNS VIRGIN! Man you suck at discussions, you take the obvious and make it seem ground breaking. Why would he want to set up in a region where 2 major national reaching airlines and many regional airlines use a hub. Your negativity here Jim simply shows your hidden fear of your little patch outside of the city loosing its value. You have more to gain if Halifax stays anti-progress, less people live in the city and want to stay out in the country, so you have a bigger bargining chip. You're hidden greed and fear is both tacky and flawed... kind of like your logic. You know I used to think you were the devils advocate, now I just see you as an old man sitting beside a gas guzzling 55 pontiac, complaining the highways aren't getting enough funding, because everybody else is riding the train. If you have such a problem with progress, move to Victoria where you'll fit in. They already had their Commonwealth games, so you don't have to keep playing that old record of yours, and give your arm a rest cranking the gramaphone.

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