baron-pierreIV Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 OK, 2016 will go to -- it's really going down to these 2: Chicago or Tokyo? I think Chicago. Especially Bill & Hillary Clinton might be back at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue by then. They still haven't lost their charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I agree with you. LA's not really a winnable option for the USOC. And Chicago has sure shown its keenness for the Games. Do you really think we'll see the Clintons back in the White House? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoFan90 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 OK, 2016 will go to -- it's really going down to these 2:Chicago or Tokyo? I think Chicago. Especially Bill & Hillary Clinton might be back at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue by then. They still haven't lost their charm. And especially since Hillary is from Evanston and Chicago, she may be a little more enthusiastic to help Chicago than she did for NYC in 05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Do you really think we'll see the Clintons back in the White House? I forgot that Hillary hails from the Chicago area (as did Nancy Reagan). So, unless she declines to run, I don't see any other Democrat right now who could head the '08 ticket and, as the USOC says, "be winnable." And after the '08 campaign, if Chicago 2016 recruits Bill as a big-time player for the bid, it'll be hard for Tokyo to put up a good fight. So, you'd have Oprah, the Clintons, Michael Jordan? That trio alone will be a heavy-hitting team! And who else? LA84 of course (if he decides to change his moniker ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoFan90 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Unless she declines to run, I don't see any other Democrat right now who could head the '08 ticket and, as the USOC says, "be winnable." And after the '08 campaign, if Chicago 2016 recruits Bill as a big-time player for the bid, it'll be hard for Tokyo to put up a good fight. Only other Dems I can think of for the 08 ticket are Obama , John Edwards , and Russ Feingold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Only other Dems I can think of for the 08 ticket are Obama , John Edwards , and Russ Feingold. Nah...lightweights. Where's Obama from? Isn't he also from Illinois? No, they'd have to find a Westerner for Hillary's running mate -- especially to offset John McCain from Arizona. ANyway...back to Olympic talk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuquen Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Can't wait till the CHICAGO 2016 OLYMPICS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdisterBryce Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 OK, 2016 will go to -- it's really going down to these 2:Chicago or Tokyo? I think Chicago. Especially Bill & Hillary Clinton might be back at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue by then. They still haven't lost their charm. Well she might not be in the White House in 2016, which would be her second term. But anyway, I think Tokyo will put up a strong fight, but in the end, I really do beileve that Chicago will walk out the winner. I think it's took soon after Beijing 2008 for Asia to host again, and it will be 6 years after Vancouver (yes I know it's small, but makes a differnce.). And it will be 20 years after Atlanta, and 14 years after Salt Lake 2002. Plus, Chicago has presented a very good plan for the venues, as you can see on 2016chicago.com. The only way that Chicago can loose is if South America or Africa comes up with an amazing plan that makes the world go "Wow! That's soo cool!" or some other city bribes the IOC like with Salt Lake. I know that the IOC is eager to have South America or Africa host the games, but I think they have a better chance with 2018 in hosting them in Santiago or in 2020 with Rio or Buenos Aires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolshundle Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Screw the Clintons..... Seantor Barack Obama from Illinois may be in office instead! Hillary or Barack is a plus for Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgescuro Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 If it's not San Francisco, then I'm pulling for Tokyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 .. Seantor Barack Obama from Illinois may be in office instead! Uhmmm...that's as realistic as Baghdad or Havana hosting 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolshundle Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 If it's not San Francisco, then I'm pulling for Tokyo. eeek.... anywho, the local news reported today that Mayor Daley and Patrick Ryan will be visiting Barcelona later this month to try to see what Chicago can do post-olympics wise to remain on the global stage, and reinvent itself as a major American tourist center. Vancouver, London, Athens, Beijing, and now Barcelona... Chicago 2016 rolls on full steam ahead. BTW, if Democrats want to win 2008, they should midwestern candidate. As shown by this last election, they're still very competetive in this region; and a candidate like Obama or Feingold can swing states like Ohio, Missouri, and Iowa to the Blue column. Plus, it seems so much more genuine than having a southern democrat run. If the Dems show some good strategy like they did in this past election, some rocky mountain states like Nevada, Colorado, Arizona, and New Mexico could go blue as well. Uhmmm...that's as realistic as Baghdad or Havana hosting 2012. If Illinois can elect him with 70% of the electorate, what's stopping him from the Presidency? It's alot more realistic than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 what's stopping him from the Presidency? Do you really want an answer? Start with the South... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolshundle Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Do you really want an answer? Start with the South... I highly doubt any of the southern states would vote for a white democrat in 2008 anyways (aside from Florida). As I said before, if the Democrats nominate someone from the midwest, significant gains can be made there. Also because of demograpic changes, states like New Mexico and Nevada can go Blue in 2008 as well too. The way the electoral college works, the Democrats do not a single state in the south if they pick up states such as Ohio, Iowa, etc... But the country is polarized, I agree. There are some sections of Southern Illinois which akin to the South in terms of values and culture, but Senator Obama enjoys a huge amount of appeal across the state, and across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoFan90 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I highly doubt any of the southern states would vote for a white democrat in 2008 anyways (aside from Florida). As I said before, if the Democrats nominate someone from the midwest, significant gains can be made there. Also because of demograpic changes, states like New Mexico and Nevada can go Blue in 2008 as well too. The way the electoral college works, the Democrats do not a single state in the south if they pick up states such as Ohio, Iowa, etc... But the country is polarized, I agree. There are some sections of Southern Illinois which akin to the South in terms of values and culture, but Senator Obama enjoys a huge amount of appeal across the state, and across the country. Last thing on politics on this thread for me, but personally it all depends on where you go in the Midwest itself. The Upper Great Lakes region including Minnesota,Wisconsin,Michigan, and Northern Illinois are most of the time very liberal, while the southern Midwest polarizes with the upper portion. So in reality you will always have friction, but I do agree with Baron on this, that a Southern candidate is needed (preferably Edwards) to sway southern states away from the Republicans to the Democrats in 08, which I so hopefully believe could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolshundle Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Last thing on politics on this thread for me, but personally it all depends on where you go in the Midwest itself. The Upper Great Lakes region including Minnesota,Wisconsin,Michigan, and Northern Illinois are most of the time very liberal, while the southern Midwest polarizes with the upper portion. So in reality you will always have friction, but I do agree with Baron on this, that a Southern candidate is needed (preferably Edwards) to sway southern states away from the Republicans to the Democrats in 08, which I so hopefully believe could happen. They tried Edwards in 2004. That obviously didn't work. Al Gore couldn't even win his own state of Tennessee in 2000. While the democrats still have influence in congressional, senatorial, and gubernatorial races in the South, the have no political clout whatsoever in presidential races. The Democrats need a midwestern candidate... Feingold, Bayh, or Obama. They CAN win in states like Iowa, Ohio, and Missouri. Win bigger in the midwest, hold on to the current blue states, and the South is negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA84 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 If it's not San Francisco, then I'm pulling for Tokyo. How totally un-American of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykfan845 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Good luck to Chicago, I'm pulling for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HFB-Melbourne Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Way-too-early analysis: The Republicans will nominate McCain, who will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Way-too-early analysis:The Republicans will nominate McCain, who will win. He'll be 72 by 2008. That's too old. That office needs a younger person to weather the storms of the post. Look at all the past Presidents -- see how they aged in office. McCain may not even weather the primaries. Also against him: 1. He comes from a small state. Last presidential contender to come from Arizona - Sen. Barry Goldwater, who was more of an ultra-conservative than McCain is -- was creamed by Lyndon Johnson. And if McCain gets the Republican nomination, then his running mate would have to be a young dynamic person from the Northeast -- to balance the ticket. Who might that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memorabilia Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 OK, 2016 will go to -- it's really going down to these 2:Chicago or Tokyo? I think Chicago. Especially Bill & Hillary Clinton might be back at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue by then. They still haven't lost their charm. Does someone know the official website of Chicago and Tokyo 2016 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoFan90 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Chicago's is www.Chicago2016.org I don't think Tokyo has one up yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 non of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 non of them... What? Whakinda reply is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie*supporter Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Chicago !! Cause asia is already hosting an olympic game which is bejing !! So tokyo don't have a chance !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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