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Oh, boy. Not this again.

Okay. It is very, VERY remote and not going to add up to anything. I had to find out if this was true and, indirectly, it is. It may not be directly having to do with Vancouver 2010, but with that "good Liberal" putting that question back in the leadership race, and the NDP made that promise in the last Canadian federal election, and the Conservative minority government giving it "official UNESCO status", the Quebec issue is baacckkk! :o

Here's the crux of the mattter: a Quebec separatist lawyer is making a proposal to, at least, have a "TEAM QUEBEC" ice hockey team for 2008. What will be next: a Quebec team for Vancouver 2010? Don't forget, if I'm right, Quebec will have its "provincial" election before the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics and there have been talk in the past that the Parti Quebecois could take power again, when that time comes. On top of that, the same party has threatened Canada with another referendum like the one in 1995 in around 2009.

By the way, click on the link below:

Link: CBC: Lawyer Would Like To See Team Quebec At 2008 World Hockey Championships

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Yeah. However, I bet there is quite a few of them over there that won't quit until it happens. Probably even try to sue the IOC for it, like the way they tried to sue it to refund the money Quebec City spent on trying to get the 2002 Winter Olympics.

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I hope it doesn't happen. I am aware about Quebec and Canada's problems. Anyways, I hope that we will improve and pick new young talented players on our hockey team.

Taichi Nomura

Yeah. However, I bet there is quite a few of them over there that won't quit until it happens. Probably even try to sue the IOC for it, like the way they tried to sue it to refund the money Quebec City spent on trying to get the 2002 Winter Olympics.

Is Quebec City going to bid again? Taichi Nomura

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I hope it doesn't happen. I am aware about Quebec and Canada's problems. Anyways, I hope that we will improve and pick new young talented players on our hockey team.

Taichi Nomura

Is Quebec City going to bid again? Taichi Nomura

Well, taichi, I bet this lawyer is trying to say that Quebec ice hockey players are better than "English-Canadian" ones. Or else, why would he even say such a thing? Also, if my memory serves me right, certain Quebec newspapers divide the Olympic medal tallies of the past between "English" and "French" winners to justify the idea that it (Quebec) has better athletes than the "rest of Canada." Kind of a "Cold War" way of doing things, right?

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Well, taichi, I bet this lawyer is trying to say that Quebec ice hockey players are better than "English-Canadian" ones. Or else, why would he even say such a thing? Also, if my memory serves me right, certain Quebec newspapers divide the Olympic medal tallies of the past between "English" and "French" winners to justify the idea that it (Quebec) has better athletes than the "rest of Canada." Kind of a "Cold War" way of doing things, right?

Really? _ Do you have any of these tallies? How did the Francos stack up against the Anglos?

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As for Quebec City wanting to bid for a Winter Olympics again in the future, that depends on how Quebeckers and the COC feels. Montreal was talking remotely of wanting to bid for another Summer Olympics again, despite what it did for 1976. Never mind that Vancouver 2010 is in the COC and VANOC's mind right now, with another remote thought of Toronto wanting to bid for 2016 after the failed Expo 2015 bid attempt.

Really? _ Do you have any of these tallies? How did the Francos stack up against the Anglos?

I don't because I really don't care about such artificial nonsense. Like, what is that supposed to do? Give the idea that a certain region is like the "communist nations" of the past using the Olympics and its athletes as political pawns for "greatness?" We all know what became and will become of such pathetic ideas.

However, given my input on this, my educational guess is that the French Quebeckers do relatively well in the Olympic scene. Quebec has quite a deep talent in short-track speed skating and free-style skiing, for starters. Of course, they have the ice hockey players from the various leagues there. As for other winter sports, they have their moments in snowboarding, alpine skiing, long-track speed skating, and biathlon that I know of so far.

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only a minority group want it...

news NOC only are posible in new independent states since 1991.

True, Quebec would have to seperate from now till 2010 to have their owe team in Vancouver.

About the hockey team, the IIHF told the Quebeckers that it is impossible to have their own team unless they become independent.

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Oh sorry, I made a mistake on wording my post. I meant to say, I hope that Quebec won't form their own team. I hope they stay on our canadian team.

Taichi Steven Nomura

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Oh sorry, I made a mistake on wording my post. I meant to say, I hope that Quebec won't form their own team. I hope they stay on our canadian team.

Taichi Steven Nomura

Won't happen anyway. I just hope that this sort of thing doesn't fire up any futhur implications from them on other ambitious ideas like this that has almost no hope of going through.

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Hi everyone

This is my first post on this site.

I am a proud of beeing a "french quebecois", but I'm also proud to be a canadian.

I heard this story in the newspaper few weeks ago about the Quebec team for the Vancouver hockey tournament.

Nobody in Quebec take that seriously.

In fact, there was only a small paragraph in the Journal de Montreal and maybe a spot of no more than 30 seconds in the news on TV.

We never heard about it or talked about it after that day. Everyone here agree that's it make non sense

It's sure that's easy for us to imagine the line up of that "All Quebec" team and be convinced that there will be stronger than a team composed of the best of all the others province together. (just check in the net with Martin Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, etc...).

But I don't think it will happens.

Canada will win the gold in Vancouver (I hope), and for that it won't be without Vincent Lecavalier an the others.

(P.S. : there's probably a lot of mistakes in my text, please remembered that I speak french, and I'm not used to write in english. I do my best)

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Welcome to these forums, Chateau Petrus, and thank you for your post. I cannot figure out some of them anyway. Never mind with the Cherry incident at the House of Commons yesterday. He was just visiting Parliament and watching the Canadian government in action from the gallery area. What he got in return was a couple of Quebec MPs commenting negatively about his comments some time ago in a "Coach's Corner" segment, when it came to ice hockey. Talk about remembering things like that. <_<

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Well, John Furlong likes the way the province of Quebec, when it comes to its home businesses, the government, and its winter athletes, is trying to make Vancouver 2010 a "national event":

Link: CBC: Quebec Model For How Companies Can Get Olympic Spirit: Vancouver 2010 Boss

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I wonder if this will have any bearing:

OTTAWA, Nov 22, 2006 (AFP) - Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper said in an unprecedented declaration to Parliament Wednesday he would recognize the country's francophone Quebec province as a ``nation'' within Canada.

Hoping to woo Quebecers and quell debate over the province's possible separation from Canada, the prime minister said he would present a motion late in the day asking the House of Commons to ``recognize that Quebecers constitute a nation within a united Canada.''

``Do Quebecers form a nation within a united Canada? The answer is yes. Do Quebecers form an independent nation from Canada? The answer is no, and it will always be no,'' he said.

Quebec has held and lost two referendums on separation from the rest of Canada, in 1980 and 1995. Federalists won the second vote by a narrow margin.

Harper's surprise move, he said, was aimed at blocking ``an unusual request'' by the separatist Bloc Quebecois to define all Quebecers as a nation.

Quebecers typically understand the term to mean ``a people,'' while Anglophone Canadians consider it akin to nationhood, with all the international perks and obligations that come with it.

Politicians have tried to avoid debating this sensitive issue over the past decade, fearing it would lead to a constitutional crisis or carnage for their party in general elections.

The Bloc Quebecois motion, that was to be presented Thursday, does not mention Canada.

Political observers suggested it was meant to embarrass federalist lawmakers who might oppose the controversial label, as it may be viewed in Quebec as anti-Quebec or denying their aspirations.

Those who reject the motion risk losing votes in Quebec, which holds 25 percent of parliamentary seats.

Those who back it risk losing public support in the rest of Canada and possibly encouraging separatists to try to break up Canada.

``For (the Bloc), 'nation' means separation,'' Harper said. ``The separatists don't need the Parliament of Canada to define what is meant by the sociological term 'nation.'''

``Quebecers have always played a historic role in advancing Canada with solidarity, courage, and vision, and to build a confident Quebec, an independent Quebec that's proud and has solidarity within a strong and united Canada,'' he said.

``This country is a shining example of the harmony and unity to which all peoples are capable and to which all humanity shall aspire,'' he said to rousing applause.

Pundit Norman Spector told AFP the prime minister was offering an olive branch to Quebec by acknowledging its unique language and culture, while furtively promoting Canadian unity.

``The government's motion pulled the rug from under Duceppe's feet by untying the question of nation from that of independence,'' he said. ``That's why Duceppe looked so upset in the House.''

Its legal connotation, however, is unclear.

Opposition parties, except the Bloc Quebecois, signaled they would support Harper's motion.

Interim Liberal leader Bill Graham said his party would ``transcend partisanship'' in order to ``adopt a solution that respects Quebec and Quebecers and gives them a future within this wonderful country of ours.''

The Liberals are holding a leadership convention next week and recognition of Quebec as a nation is expected to be a hot topic, supported by the Quebec wing of the party and leadership frontrunner Michael Ignatieff, while creating a rift within the party.

New Democratic Party leader Jack Layton echoed Graham.

Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe, however, was undeterred by Harper's coup, vowing to continue pressing his own definition of Quebec as nation.

``Official recognition of the Quebec nation by the House of Commons is more than symbolic. It is the most fundamental question for Quebec,'' Duceppe said, accusing Ottawa of trying for years to ``slide this inconvenient issue under the rug.''

Quebecers will eventually decide their own fate, not Ottawa, he added.

Quebec separatists, now in opposition in the province, have promised to hold another referendum if they return to power.

The next Quebec election is expected in 2007.

AFP

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Tachi, you have to know by now that at often times, discussion can go off topic. As I stated before, a forum is to promote discussion, not to discourage it. It's just going a tiny bit off topic, but the replies are still linked in a way to Team Quebec.

Btw, I think Quebec parting is stupid. Waste of time. But I love Montreal!

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