Freewill from INDIA Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 alrite.........it may nt b "d oldest" but it is among the ancient 5!
Freewill from INDIA Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 and what just cause r u tokin about??????????? u the hell gave you guys the permission to decide how the baton looks and just look at urself - u call these JUST CAUSE???? LOL And if I M NATIONALIST - YOU GUYS ARE BIASED!
oakydoky Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 and what just cause r u tokin about??????????? u the hell gave you guys the permission to decide how the baton looks and just look at urself - u call these JUST CAUSE???? LOL And if I M NATIONALIST - YOU GUYS ARE BIASED! What are people being biased about? They were talking about the baton - people were giving opinions about it. Not everyone has to like it you. Like any piece of art, it will be subjective.
Abhishek901 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 and what just cause r u tokin about??????????? u the hell gave you guys the permission to decide how the baton looks and just look at urself - u call these JUST CAUSE???? LOL And if I M NATIONALIST - YOU GUYS ARE BIASED! Stop making such silly remarks. Nobody here was criticizing Delhi's baton, these were just unbiased personal opinions. You can show your nationalism in a better way than criticizing people here without knowing the reality. Because of people like you, Indians have earned a bad name in this forum/thread.
Faster Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 You seem very nationalistic - but in a very condescending way. It's as if anyone critiquing India (with just cause) annoys you.Oh, and India is NOT the world's oldest civilisation. The 'cradle of civilisation' traces back to ancient Mesopotamia and that relates to the areas of modern day Iran. Sorry to shatter your claim! Iraq and Syria not Iran. Mesopotamia means the land between rivers and the rivers are the Tigris and Euphrates, both Iraqi rivers. The earliest civilization on the Indian Subcontinent was the Indus Valley Civilization and that is centered around Pakistan, though religious beliefs and some aspects of Hindu culture were established at this time. In early prehistory at its peak there was 17 civilizations so to claim a big 5 is ignorant and overly simplistic.
oakydoky Posted November 19, 2009 Report Posted November 19, 2009 Iraq and Syria not Iran. Mesopotamia means the land between rivers and the rivers are the Tigris and Euphrates, both Iraqi rivers. The earliest civilization on the Indian Subcontinent was the Indus Valley Civilization and that is centered around Pakistan, though religious beliefs and some aspects of Hindu culture were established at this time. In early prehistory at its peak there was 17 civilizations so to claim a big 5 is ignorant and overly simplistic. Ancient Persia, otherwise known as modern day Iran is part of the Mesopotamian group. Parts of Turkey are also part. However, the point made is that the world's most ancient civilisation is certainly not India. And actually, there are probably lots of civilisations yet to be fully understood.
Freewill from INDIA Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 alrite so now u have bcum an historian = great!!!! what scholarsaround the world could not do - this gentlemen is making remarkable discoveries sitting right here in this forum - well I must applaud u for that - great going sir!
oakydoky Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 alrite so now u have bcum an historian = great!!!! what scholarsaround the world could not do - this gentlemen is making remarkable discoveries sitting right here in this forum - well I must applaud u for that - great going sir! You can be sarcastic all you want but myself (and faster) were actually correcting the lie that you stated on this thread. Perhaps if you made similar discoveries i.e the bloody truth, then I would not have to be spending my precious and valuable time educating a bigoted Indian nationalist(you) who lashes out at people when they give opinions. Regards.
Abhishek901 Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Iraq and Syria not Iran. Mesopotamia means the land between rivers and the rivers are the Tigris and Euphrates, both Iraqi rivers. The earliest civilization on the Indian Subcontinent was the Indus Valley Civilization and that is centered around Pakistan, though religious beliefs and some aspects of Hindu culture were established at this time. In early prehistory at its peak there was 17 civilizations so to claim a big 5 is ignorant and overly simplistic. Pakistan was India till 1947
Abhishek901 Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 alrite so now u have bcum an historian = great!!!! what scholarsaround the world could not do - this gentlemen is making remarkable discoveries sitting right here in this forum - well I must applaud u for that - great going sir! Why don't you start contributing in a more positive way than making unnecessary comments.
Freewill from INDIA Posted November 21, 2009 Report Posted November 21, 2009 Here are the ticket prices (International) for the opening & closing ceremonies of Delhi 2010: Opening Ceremony Category A - US$ 1230 Category B - US$ 615 Category C - US$ 125 (Though is has been very clearly stated that these tickets may not be available at all after the first few days because of very High Demand) Closing Ceremony Category A - US$ 1230 Category B - US$ 495 Category C - US$ 125 The LOCAL PRICE DETAILS DISCLOSURE AND SALE are also expected to commence early next year.
Freewill from INDIA Posted November 21, 2009 Report Posted November 21, 2009 AND HERE ARE SOME MORE PICS OF THE QUEEN'S BATON DELHI 2010 - THE BATON VISITED JERSEY AND IN SPITE OF THE BAD WEATHER CONDITION TRAVELED ACROSS THE COUNTRY (Thanks to its all weather metallic body) (I wonder how it looks ugly to you guys - just looks at those beautifully crafted lines - anyways its a subjective matter and I can't force my opinion on anyone.)
Sir Rols Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Posted November 22, 2009 New Delhi Games boss backs downThe Australian November 23, 2009 DELHI'S controversial Commonwealth Games chief has been forced into an embarrassing backdown following a public spat with Games federation officials after the Indian government conceded it needs more foreign experts if it is to pull off the event. India has finally called for outside help in preparing for the Games In an interview last night with Indian cable news channel CNN-IBN, organising committee president Suresh Kalmadi admitted more experts had been brought in to help with preparations for the October Games, which international organisers fear are hopelessly behind schedule. Several Australian Games experts, veterans of the Sydney Olympics and Melbourne Commonwealth Games, have visited the Indian organising committee's offices in the past month, as have experienced hands from the Doha Asian Games and the Athens and Atlanta Olympic committees. "What is required for the Games to be successful, we have done it and there is no controversy between the Commonwealth Games and the Indian Olympic Association," said Kalmadi, who is also president of the IOA. "All the foreign experts are there. Now the workload is increasing." Kalmadi denied he had been sidelined by the Indian government which has since appointed a chief executive to the organising committee, a finance sub-committee to monitor spending, and will hold fortnightly meetings of ministers to oversee the project. India recently doubled the Games budget from $164.5 million to $376m. He said foreign administrators had been imported to help smooth out what have been "delivery risk areas", including itemised ceremonies, technology, ticketing, venue development and venue operations. Australian village operations expert John Lade, event manager Peter Stewart and technology specialist Brian Norse are among the new recruits. Former SOCOG board member and event management expert Craig McLatchey has been a long-term adviser to the Indian committee. Outside managers would also be brought in to help run events such as rugby, lawn bowls and netball -- areas in which India had little experience or expertise. The concession comes just weeks after Kalmadi publicly accused the Delhi-based Commonwealth Games Federation chief executive Mike Hooper of being "a hindrance" to the organising committee and dismissed his demand for more foreign expertise. The bust-up came after Hooper, from New Zealand, publicly declared last month that to say Delhi was unprepared for the 2010 Games was "the understatement of the year". A few months earlier, an Indian government report found construction work on 13 of the 19 sports venues was behind schedule. At the time, Kalmadi called for Hooper to be removed from his position, but admitted last night the sports administrator would be staying. It also appears the Delhi organising committee has conceded to CGF demands for an independent technical review panel to oversee the final 10 months of preparations for the four-yearly event, which brings together 71 nations. Kalmadi refused to confirm the panel would begin work in January, despite a recent announcement by Hooper to that effect. The CGF has already bolstered its Co-ordination Committee, adding Australian association chief Perry Crosswhite and representatives from Wales and South Africa to the group that will assess India's progress next month. Okay, a question to the Indians, please, this is not a criticism. But what are your thoughts on kalmadi. From what I've been seeing, it seems that he and his ego have been the problem and escalated the whole issue more than it should have.
stir.ts Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 (I wonder how it looks ugly to you guys - just looks at those beautifully crafted lines - anyways its a subjective matter and I can't force my opinion on anyone.) It's pretty cool, is that led lights in the front of it (with the baby) or just reflections? Whats the dude in the water doing with it?
Freewill from INDIA Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 Yup dude they are LEDs - and they are programmed to change to the colors of the flag of the country they are in! Isn't that cool???? In fact the baton is loaded with a host of gadgets : * The ability to capture images and sound as it travels throughout all nations of the Commonwealth; * The latest global positioning system (GPS) technology through which the exact location of the baton can be tracked on the XIX Commonwealth Games 2010 Delhi website; * Embedded light emitting diodes (LEDs) which will change into the colours of a country’s flag whilst in that country; and * Text messaging capability so that anyone anywhere can send their messages of congratulations and encouragement to the Batonbearers throughout the Queen`s Baton Relay 2010 Delhi.
stir.ts Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 pretty interesting. That's funny that you can text the baton.
thatsnotmypuppy Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 'Dr Btn - u suk LOLZ!!!111!!!!' Sent!
yashchauhan Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 'Dr Btn - u suk LOLZ!!!111!!!!'Sent! mr thatnotmypuppy your ass stinks!!!!!hehehe with love, Dr baton sent
yashchauhan Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 Devil's Advocate: Kalmadi denies ego fight in Games madman singing ...do watch it!
Abhishek901 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 Okay, a question to the Indians, please, this is not a criticism. But what are your thoughts on kalmadi. From what I've been seeing, it seems that he and his ego have been the problem and escalated the whole issue more than it should have. I also think so.
yashchauhan Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 You seem very nationalistic - but in a very condescending way. It's as if anyone critiquing India (with just cause) annoys you.Oh, and India is NOT the world's oldest civilisation. The 'cradle of civilisation' traces back to ancient Mesopotamia and that relates to the areas of modern day Iran. Sorry to shatter your claim! for your kind info. i would like to highlight certain facts here:- 1.Age of harrapan civilization is judged by the carbon cating resulty of food grains and other organic remains while that of mesopatima also includes the scriptures and language, as of now harrapan language and scriptures have not been decoded so no onw exactly knows the age of of the civilization. 2.mesopatamian civilization and culture has vanished now but harrapan is still there in the form of hinduism. 3.Our ancient scriptures(mahabharata and ramayana) narrate stories and events as old as 10,000 b.c. and even older Krishna was born in 5000 b.c. as told by west indomaniacs. 4.Following is an article showing the words of famous historians and archeologists who have worked in India:- The perception of Indian history and culture by Europeans was fluctuating between two extremes in the 18th and 19th century. Many European writers have seen India as a cradle of civilization during the 19th century Friedrich Schlegel wrote in a letter to Tieck that India was the source of all languages, thoughts and poems, and that "everything" came from India. In the 18th century, Voltaire wrote that "I am convinced that everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganges, astronomy, astrology, metempsychosis, etc.. An important development during the British Raj period was the influence Hindu traditions began to take on western thought and new religious movements. An early champion of Indian-inspired thought in the west was Arthur Schopenhauer, who in the 1850s advocated ethnics based on an "Aryan-Vedic theme of spiritual self-conquest" as opposed to the ignorant drive toward earthly utopianism of the superficially this-worldly "Jewish" spiritAt the end of the introduction to the World as Will and Representation, Arthur Schopenhauer claimed that the rediscovery of the ancient Indian tradition would be one of the great events in the history of the West. Goethe borrowed from Kalidasa for the Vorspiel auf dem Theater in Faust. Goethe and Schopenhauer were riding a crest of scholarly discovery, most notably the work done by Sir William Jones. (Goethe likely read Kalidasa's The Recognition of Sakuntala in Jones' translation.) However, the discovery of the world of Sanskrit literature moved beyond German and British scholars and intellectuals — Henry David Thoreau was a sympathetic reader of the Bhagavad Gita — and even beyond the humanities. In the early days of the Periodic Table, scientists referred to as yet undiscovered elements with the use of Sanskrit prefixes (see Mendeleev's predicted elements). Scholars like Schlegel also influenced some historians like Friedrich Creuzer, Joseph Görres and Carl Ritter, who wrote history books that laid more emphasis on India than usual. Helena Blavatsky moved to India in 1879, and her Theosophical Society, founded in New York in 1875, evolved into a peculiar mixture of western occultism and Hindu mysticism over the last years of her life. Hinduism-inspired elements in Theosophy were also inherited by the spin-off movements of Ariosophy and Anthroposophy and ultimately contributed to the renewed New Age boom of the 1960s to 1980s, the term New Age itself deriving from Blavatsky's 1888 The Secret Doctrine. 5.But who needs nostalgia....the present tells a different story....."COMMONWEALTH GAMES IN DANGER"..on which we shall continue....with our typical childish attitude and insults and frustration!
Freewill from INDIA Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 Hmm good reply by my Indian friend.....and inspite of the fact that I am probably of the most "patriot" and "nationalist" Indians......I agree that the progress of CWG delhi 2010 has not been good - but I think they will manage to pull it very neatly in the end - as they have finally woken up - on my recent trip to delhi - it could see construction going on even after dusk and infact pretty much into the night! (that gives us a sigh of relief) And for u ass"stinkin" aussies(lyk the one in this forum) - (well we never really get into these abusing convos - but u force us to) - SHUT THE **** UP! And shove the "cheap" china-imported disfigured penis looking baton in ur stinkin asses! (DISCLAIMER : The message is not meant to offend any but one aussie - who is polluting this community! If any other Australian feels hurt after reading this - I apologize you in the true "Indian" spirit of Brotherhood)
Freewill from INDIA Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 SHUT THE **** UP! And shove the "cheap" china-imported disfigured penis looking baton in ur stinkin asses!(DISCLAIMER : The message is not meant to offend any but one aussie - who is polluting this community! If any other Australian feels hurt after reading this - I apologize you in the true "Indian" spirit of Brotherhood) BY BATON - I MEAN THE ONE OF CWG MELBOURNE 2006
NOC Posted November 23, 2009 Report Posted November 23, 2009 Are you sure you are not Kalmadi responding to the article (link above) http://connect.in.com/suresh-kalmadi/profile-354662.html At the time of writing 1 voted Thumbs Up (That was Kalmadi actually) and 362 Thumbs down, with 17 Tomatos thrown at his face. For anyone that wants to read 5 pages of arrogance, ignorance and a reflection of the Commonwealth Games in India, read this interview given by Kalmadi. He will go down in history as a total blight on major sporting events!
yashchauhan Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 Are you sure you are not Kalmadi responding to the article (link above)http://connect.in.com/suresh-kalmadi/profile-354662.html At the time of writing 1 voted Thumbs Up (That was Kalmadi actually) and 362 Thumbs down, with 17 Tomatos thrown at his face. For anyone that wants to read 5 pages of arrogance, ignorance and a reflection of the Commonwealth Games in India, read this interview given by Kalmadi. He will go down in history as a total blight on major sporting events! ya u r rite.... he is an absolute loozer!!
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