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Shouldn't think so. 2 months ago I thought it would all get sorted. The more I read the more worried I am.

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I don't have a problem with a long torch relay. I am merely worried that Delhi could be embarrassed by starting a torch relay if the games get cancelled, moved or postponed. I obviously hope that doesn't happen - but it would be embarassing.

Friendly FYI the Queens Baton Relay . the Olympics has torch relays . The Queens Baton first made its appearance at the 1958 Cardiff British Empire and Commonwealth Games

jim Jones

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Can they even get the seating configuration for ALL venues by November 15 ?

They could have had it before a venue was even constructed as long as they have the building designed in Computer Aid Drafting. Autocad can spit out databases for seat labelling and a Font for the Labelling could then be serialized so you take that cad file database and not have to change the number and letter characters in progression.

India may be a developing nation but I am sure they are employing this simple technology that is about 25 years old. My Autocad Teacher in College was brought to Auckland prior to the 1990 games to teach in a university there.

Reading some of the stuff in regards to Manchester they relied Highly on Autocad Files to do Games overlay graphics on and in venues. All Major Desktop publishing and Sign making software packages can take these files.

Jim jones

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Autocad will help but they also need to constantly adjust the seat plans due to seat kills for media placement, camera placement, sponsor needs, local organising committee allocations, vip areas (which in India there will be lots of) and so on and so forth - thus they may have a basic seating plan - however the actual available seat numbers are almost impossible to predict and as with many Games prior to Delhi it will be a big guessing game.

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They had seating plans available in Delhi at the One Stop Shop. They were detailed venue by venue. Ticket prices are very cheap for the sports and very expensive for the Ceremonies

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They had seating plans available in Delhi at the One Stop Shop. They were detailed venue by venue. Ticket prices are very cheap for the sports and very expensive for the Ceremonies

DANG!! U don't suppose my Coubertin lineage will get me a break? I mean..I can poobah and maharajah and maharanee as the best of them... B)

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As expected......

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2010 Games: Kalmadi's total surrender

Barkha Dutt, Thursday October 22, 2009, New Delhi

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After a lot of tough talking, Suresh Kalmadi seems ready to make peace with the international organisers of the Commonwealth Games. In fact, Kalmadi, who is in charge of getting Delhi in shape for the Games, has dropped both the conditions he had earlier declared non-negotiable.

Speaking to NDTV's Barkha Dutt, Kalmadi says Mike Hooper, earlier described by him as "useless" and an "impediment", is no longer a pariah. "Well, he should be helpful to us you see that is the main thing. And if he promises to be helpful to us I am sure I can give him another try," offers Kalmadi, adding that it is up to Mike Fennell to decide Hooper's fate. Fennell is the President of the Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF). He has already said he will not sack Hooper, the CEO of the Federation.

The other bone of contention for Kalmadi was that an independent committee would be set up to review Delhi's progress in the Games. Last week, that was unacceptable to him. Now, he says, "We have not opposed the independent body coming. We have only said that combine it with the Co-ordination Commission which will be visiting this December so that there is no duplication or complication of authority. But whatever Mike Fennell wants we should do it."

International organisers led by Fennell have said publicly that they are worried about Delhi being behind schedule in its preparations for the Games. In a bitter war of words last week, Hooper announced that describing Delhi as unprepared "is the understatement of the year".

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Does anybody believe that Delhi is able to get back into the time track to the CWG 2010? Maybe "Kalmadi's total surrender" is a first step into this direction, but doesn't need it more to save Delhi 2010?

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Does anybody believe that Delhi is able to get back into the time track to the CWG 2010? Maybe "Kalmadi's total surrender" is a first step into this direction, but doesn't need it more to save Delhi 2010?

They'll recruit all those Bollywood dancers and Slumdog Millionaires into 24-hr work crews. They have plenty of those.

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It will be a 24 hour operation to get things sorted before the games. It will be touch and go as to whether the games actually occur.

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Here is the latest from the NZOC (New Zealand olympic committee):

Having returned from the 2010 Commonwealth Games host city of Delhi last week, the NZOC assembled Commonwealth Sports today for a briefing on Games progress.

It has been well-publicized through the CGF that there were serious concerns with preparation and the issue had been elevated to the highest levels of government in India. The NZOC team visited Delhi with these concerns in mind.

At today’s briefing the NZOC informed Commonwealth sport CEOs that preparations continue to be behind schedule and detailed operational planning was limited.

However, the NZOC team also said that the Indian government has committed to hosting the Games and that there is no shortage of financial and human resources to ensure this occurs.

In addition, the CGF has instigated a Technical Review Panel which will begin in January to monitor and report on progress. These reports will be made public. International experts have been appointed to strengthen competition management.

“India has a different culture and approach but has no shortage of human or financial resource to get the job done,” said NZOC Secretary General Barry Maister.

“As such, the NZOC has accepted the Delhi organizers’ assurances that the games will go ahead and the NZOC, together with the CGF and like-minded Commonwealth countries, will monitor and assess progress.

“We’re heading back to Delhi in March and we’ll make sure sports and athletes have what they need to plan for the 2010 games.”

The NZOC is continuing to work closely with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and team security advisors to monitor security in Delhi.

The NZOC Games Services teams will meet with Commonwealth sports in November for individual briefings.

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Can Delhi even finish building it's venues on time?

If they do I can't help but think that they will be rushed and shoddily finished. There won't be any test events or anything so any mistakes can't be ironed out.

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Thats a good point they might get everything finished on time but they won't have the procedures and practical experience from test events to make sure operations are in place and working

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TEST EVENTS

Hockey 13-17 Jan

4 Nations

Shooting 17-28 Feb

Commonwealth Shooting Champs

Archery 7-14 March

World Archery Tournament

Boxing 10-18 March

Commonwealth Champs

Table Tennis 1-5 April

Indian Open

Rugby 7's 3-4 April

Asian Rugby 7's

Lawn Bowls 6-10 April

Invitation Bowls

Tennis 12-17 April

ATP Mens + ITF Womens

Aquatics 24-29 April

Asia Pacific Champs

Squash 21 April - 5 May

Asian Squash Champs

Wrestling 14-17 May

Asian Champs

Gymnastics 18-23 May

Invitation Champs

Cycliing 28-30 May

Invitation Champs

Weightlifting 4-6 June

Invitation Champs

Athletics 29-30 June

Asian All Star Meet

Netball TBC

Asian Youth Netball Champs

So as you can see deadline is January for the first venue

The next 6 weeks are critical

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Yes the next weeks will make or break the entire operation.

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Can Delhi even finish building it's venues on time?

If they do I can't help but think that they will be rushed and shoddily finished. There won't be any test events or anything so any mistakes can't be ironed out.

well hey maybe they are following in the Path of Manchester who threw together those Fantastic Games in your opinion when the Turth was the following

MANCHESTER, June 16 2002 AAP - Manchester's new Commonwealth Games stadium passed its first test this weekend as the English athletics trials went off smoothly.

There were minor hitches as volunteers and the public struggled to find their way around the unfamiliar 38,000-seat stadium, built with STG135 million ($A387.15 million) of lottery money.

Several athletes, including Australian pole vaulting couple Victor Chistiakov and Tatiana Grigorieva, were able to sidestep waiting media by leaving the stadium through the wrong exit, while a few athletes were left stranded by the non-arrival of a shuttle bus ...

So basically Manchester 2002 only tested their Largest Venue 5 weeks before the opening of the Games . New Delhi I think is a mess but others have had similar experiences as well.

Jim Jones

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well hey maybe they are following in the Path of Manchester who threw together those Fantastic Games in your opinion when the Turth was the following

MANCHESTER, June 16 2002 AAP - Manchester's new Commonwealth Games stadium passed its first test this weekend as the English athletics trials went off smoothly.

There were minor hitches as volunteers and the public struggled to find their way around the unfamiliar 38,000-seat stadium, built with STG135 million ($A387.15 million) of lottery money.

Several athletes, including Australian pole vaulting couple Victor Chistiakov and Tatiana Grigorieva, were able to sidestep waiting media by leaving the stadium through the wrong exit, while a few athletes were left stranded by the non-arrival of a shuttle bus ...

So basically Manchester 2002 only tested their Largest Venue 5 weeks before the opening of the Games . New Delhi I think is a mess but others have had similar experiences as well.

Jim Jones

1. It is not just my opinion, but the opinion of many people that Manchester held an exemplary games. Even the heads of CWG federation have stated this. (Sorry if this dispels your attempts to portray Manchester as a poor host- we'll need to wait until Abuja hosts for a total disater to occur in hosting the Commonwealth games.)

2. The test event mentioned in the article was not the 'English' athletics trials but rather the AAA's athletics trials which encompasses ALL of Britain. So, the article is wrong.

3. People not finding their way around a stadium is hardly a failure. Delhi might not even have one completed. That's the difference which people are worried about.

So Jim, your attempt to belittle Britain again really just shows you up for the sad human being you are.

Manchester held a great games, Glasgow is going to host a great games and you'll just have sit at home with your momma, in New Scotland, I mean Nova Scotia and watch or maybe you can take a vacation to Abuja for the duration.

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I cant find my seat. These GAmes are a failure.

Lol.

I know. What a preposterous thing to say. Oh no, I can't find my seat - cancel the games! :lol:

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