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Let's just really pray the New Dheli does it!

Yeah, I think I will visit that world-famous delicatessen, the New DHELI, when I get over there.

I hear they serve the best Grade AA+ beef pies in all of India.

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I hear they serve the best Grade AA+ beef pies in all of India.

:lol: AAAHH HAAA HAAAAA! :lol:

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Delhi has a small number of hotel rooms. The city is planning to increase the number of hotel rooms for the upcoming Commonwealth Games. Some of them should be under construction.

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Delhi Minister admits unhappiness with Commonwealth Games preparations

Delhi’s Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit said she was not happy with the preparations for the 2010 Commonwealth Games but was confident that everything would be ready in time.

She said: “There are some (projects) which are behind. “There are some which are, you know, beyond the schedule. “I would not say that I am totally satisfied, but I would not say that I am nervous.”

Dikshit’s comments followed the story on ‘ Insidethegames ‘ on February 3rd that the Games have been hit by a new legal dispute after the Delhi Delivery Authority (DDA) did not respond in a time to a request from India’s Supreme Court that they had broken the country’s environmental laws.

There are also new fears that there will not be enough accommodation for overseas visitors after plans to build six new hotels were scrapped because of the current worldwide economic crisis.

There are also long-time concerns over the pace of building work, including over the velodrome, and security following the Mumbai massacre in November.

But Dikshit, elected for a record third consecutive term last month as New Delhi’s Minister, remains confident that she will oversee a successful event. She said: “I think everybody is trying to do their best. “It’s about India’s prestige.”

The Games, seen as a forerunner to a bid from New Delhi to host the 2020 Olympics, are due to take place in October 2010. Dikshit said: “All things will be in place before the Games.”

Independent Online

And they still have ambitions for the 2020 Olympics?!?

:rolleyes:

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And they still have ambitions for the 2020 Olympics?!?

:rolleyes:

I think if October is their most favourable weather month, that would rule them out of the Olympics easily.

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Okay..............here are some commonsense question that hopefully, will generate some common sense answers.

Did the Commonwealth Games committee scrutinize all of these possibilities when they decided to award the Games to Dehli?

or

Were they just interested in sending the games to a new outpost irrespective of the important suff?

Does Dehli have an established reputation of dependability?

Does the breech of Commonwealth games preparation contracts ( whatever they may be) come with fines?

Would Dehli be able to pay them in the unfortunate likelihood that something goes wrong?

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Delhi and India had hosted the much larger Asian Games before, and India like China for the Olympics was willing to spare no expense in the bid but when it got time to build the government got cold feet.

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Okay..............here are some commonsense question that hopefully, will generate some common sense answers.

Did the Commonwealth Games committee scrutinize all of these possibilities when they decided to award the Games to Dehli?

or

Were they just interested in sending the games to a new outpost irrespective of the important suff?

Does Dehli have an established reputation of dependability?

Does the breech of Commonwealth games preparation contracts ( whatever they may be) come with fines?

Would Dehli be able to pay them in the unfortunate likelihood that something goes wrong?

Well in regards to New Delhi and the Commonwealth Games Federation lets face it . This was their Third Bid Attempt and they had lost the bid for 1994 to Victoria Canada. If the Bid did not go to New Delhi representing the largest population in the Commonwealth and the second largest in the World for a city of Hamilton with 600,000 people in a province of 12 million in a country of 32 million called CANADA again I think India could certainly walk away. Having India walk away from the Commonwealth Games would certainly Kill the largest sales pitch a Hamilton 2010 committee or committees in the future would have that the games reached 2 billion people or what ever they claim. Australian TV pays about 30 million dollars for TV rights while India's State Broadcaster a mere 425,000 dollars for 2006 down 25,000 dollars for Manchester where India paid 450,000 dollars US . That is one ten thousandth of a cent per each citizen in India.

Hamilton's bid ironically did not score as high for the Federation's Evaluation Report. Hamilton even omitted Track Cycling from their bid.

The talk of Melbourne Stepping in is very hard to fathom . You are looking at taking over MCG again , No Athletes Village and a population that didn t fill the venues completely in 2006. Austin Sealy of the Federation has said they will just not bother having the games in 2010 if India can't stage the games. I was reading some stuff on Melbourne 2006 and believe or not no air conditioning was installed in the Athletes Village and Teams had to go out and by electric fans. The Canadians Bought 100 electric fans. Melbourne was certainly run smoothly but lets face it if Melbourne can get away with that type of thing perhaps running out of Cash for the Athletes Village then New Delhi will probably do the same. Both India and Australia carry the greatest weights for the Games Fortunes which are slim in terms of hard cash.

If a country wins a bid and then put down the 40 to 80 million to the federation then I am sure hell or high water the games will not be taken away unless you have a civil war or something. Kuala Lumpar certainly could stage these games easier then Melbourne but no one wants to rescue the games if you have hosted them and spent around 2 billion to stage them and then had revenues less then 200 million. Most politicians would not like to be reminded at the ballot box I am sure.

Jim jones

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I'm all for new frontiers but Delhi's preparations are a bit worrysome.

India's future Olympic bid would be much more credible if they come anywhere close to even Spain's athletic performance at the 1992 Barcelona Games. I mean field hockey is about the only sport they've Olympic-medalled in. NONE of the MARQUEE summer sports: T&F, swimming, gymnastics, basketball...even volleyball.

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In Beijing, India only won 3 medals. Gold in Shooting, and Bronze in Wrestling and Boxing. And that’s actually the most they’ve ever won at a single Games.

You’d have to go way back to Paris 1900 to see them win more than one medal.

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From Mike Hooper CEO of the commonwealth games federation

Commonwealth Games Federation chief executive Mike Hooper said yesterday the federation was relying on guarantees from the organising committee and all levels of government that environmental concerns had been addressed and the village would be delivered on time.

"We have to rely on the assurances we're given," Hooper said. "There's no alternative. We have openly said that time is no longer our friend. There's no time for procrastination, we must take decisions and move forward, and I would like to think that all stakeholders have got that message."

Hooper dismissed reports suggesting that Melbourne was on standby to host the games should Delhi fail to meet its deadlines. But with Delhi's Games organising committee due to deliver its next progress report in May, he said the federation would be looking for clear signs that it was on target.

The Talk of Melbourne being on stand by is just that Talk .

Jim jones

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From my sources, Melbourne and another city remain on standby.

Preparations remain slow and behind schedule.

The Olympic Village is approximately 35% complete with work yet to begin on the facade and roof of the main stadium.

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From my sources, Melbourne and another city remain on standby.

Preparations remain slow and behind schedule.

The Olympic Village is approximately 35% complete with work yet to begin on the facade and roof of the main stadium.

They can remain on Standby all they wish but the simple fact is Austin Sealy the treasurer of the Federation and Mike Hooper the CEO of the Federation have both made the same basic statement that it is New Delhi in 2010 or nothing.

just think about it we are about 18 months out from the games and there is no Athletes Village in Melbourne either and the Tartan field is gone out of a Privately held Stadium . You are looking at 5 months of disruption to the operations of MCG to host the games. MCG allowed this last time for a renovation costing 450 million AU dollars . Can they or would they do this again and what would be the cost if they have other commitments for rentals ?

Jim jones

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India need 'miracle' to host Games - report

4 hours ago

NEW DELHI (AFP) — India are so behind schedule that it will take a "miracle" for New Delhi to host the Commonwealth Games in 2010, a leading newspaper claimed on Wednesday.

Budgets are skyrocketing and the infrastructure is coming up at a snail's pace for the four-yearly Games to be held in the Indian capital from October 3-14 next year, the Hindustan Times said.

"What is actually needed for it to materialise without us embarrassing ourselves, is a miracle. And even more money," the paper commented in a front-page story.

"What we face is a race against time. The ambitious airport project is facing a cash crunch. Roads and flyovers that were to be completed by 2008 have hit a dead-end.

"The venues are officially 40 percent complete, but walk by them and all you can see is a mess."

The paper added that a contractor had yet to be found to construct a flyover near the Games village, and work on the elevated corridor connecting the village to the main stadium had barely begun.

"And even if it all somehow works out, there's that other big question. How on earth will we pay for the Games?" the paper asked.

Government figures estimate an expenditure of 1.5 billion dollars, up from the original budget of 800 million dollars, on sprucing up New Delhi with new infrastructure and stadia.

The Hindustan Times took a swipe at Indian Olympic Association chief Suresh Kalmadi for suggesting that money earned through such means as sponsorship and TV rights will be returned to the government.

"It's a promise the government might hold him to and it's also one he might find difficult to keep," the paper said. "Even before the global economic downturn happened, sponsors were wary.

"Now, it's much worse."

The economic slowdown has already forced the Games Village builder to ask for a bailout from the government, the paper reported.

The newspaper feared that New Delhi may face the same fate as Montreal, which passed on the expenditure incurred for the 1976 Olympics to the city's tax-payers.

"At this point, in election year, no government will talk of levying any cess (extra tax) in future for the Games," it said.

"But history has shown us it is a very real possibility that we, the taxpayers, might well foot the bill for India's biggest show."

Kalmadi said last month he was confident New Delhi would host a successful Games which will feature some 8,500 athletes from 71 teams drawn from the Commonwealth.

"Most of the infrastructure would be ready by December," he said. "From March 2010 onwards, we hope to have test events."

The Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF) has raised concern over the slow pace of work, which has already forced the world badminton championships in August this year to be shifted to Hyderabad.

New Delhi is the second Asian city to be awarded the Commonwealth Games after the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur hosted the 1998 edition.

Reports from Australia last month said Melbourne, hosts of the 2006 Games, were willing to step in if New Delhi was unable to organise the Games.

New Delhi has hosted the Asian Games twice in 1951 and 1982.

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Mo here is a better view of where Melbourne actually stands on this

Leo Schlink

February 20, 2009 12:00am

A LEADING Indian newspaper has raised serious new fears over New Delhi's capacity to stage next year's Commonwealth Games.

But Australian Commonwealth Games Association chief executive Perry Crosswhite has doused speculation Melbourne will be asked to stage the Games.

The Hindustan Times claimed India was so far behind schedule it would take a "miracle" for New Delhi to host the Games.

The claim emerged as Australian TV executives travelled to India to assess the situation.

Channel 10 and Foxtel have sent teams to New Delhi to discuss their fears.

Spokesman Bob Kemp said the broadcasters "clearly have some issues with some areas and that's why we're here for discussions".

"We're taking the opportunity to meet various members from the organising committee across a whole range of issues from accommodation to technology, venue preparedness and security," he said.

"We're a little more nervous about some things than we are about others."

The Hindustan editorial was scathing.

"What is actually needed for it to materialise without us embarrassing ourselves, is a miracle. And even more money. What we face is a race against time. The ambitious airport project is facing a cash crunch," the newspaper said.

"Roads and fly-overs that were to be completed by 2008 have hit a dead-end. The venues are officially 40 per cent complete, but walk by them and all you can see is a mess.

"Even before the global economic downturn happened, sponsors were wary. Now it's much worse."

The Games will be held on October 3-14 next year, featuring about 8500 athletes from 71 nations.

Crosswhite said it was highly unlikely Melbourne would be drafted in as a replacement venue after hosting the Games in 2006.

"I talked to (former Melbourne Commonwealth Games Minister) Justin Madden about it yesterday and he said it would be almost impossible for Melbourne to do it anyway," Crosswhite said.

"The (athletes') village is gone and everything else."

So Mo who are your Sources that say Melbourne is on Stand By. Are they same people who say you can hold the 2011 All-african Games Athletics in a 2010 World cup Soccer Stadium at Greenpoint LOL.

Jim jones

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Here is another one for You MO. From the Australian Paper "the AGE"

Commonwealth Games 'to proceed in Delhi'

James Dampney

February 18, 2009

Australian officials have laughed off suggestions Melbourne is on standby to host the 2010 Commonwealth Games amid concerns over India's preparations to stage the event.

Reports suggest Delhi organisers are struggling with numerous issues ahead of the scheduled opening ceremony on October 3, involving venue construction, broadcasting, security and accommodation among other things.

The possibility of Melbourne, host of the 2006 Commonwealth Games, stepping in again next year has been mooted with the event now just over 18 months away.

But it was news to Australian Commonwealth Games Association (ACGA) chief executive Perry Crosswhite.

"That's all very interesting because we've never been asked that or even had it indicated to us," Crosswhite told AAP on Wednesday.

"I talked to (former Melbourne Commonwealth Games Minister) Justin Madden about it yesterday and he said it would be almost impossible for Melbourne to do it anyway.

"The village is gone and everything else.

"The only time you've had a Games move was the 1976 Winter Olympics when (Denver) couldn't hold them (over a funding issue) and Innsbruck held them again, but in those days the Olympics was probably a thousand athletes.

"It just wouldn't happen unless there was a security issue, when they'd probably just be postponed rather than move them somewhere else.

"I just chuckle at those things because it's just not going to happen."

Crosswhite is remaining hopeful India's vast resources and huge population can make the event in Delhi a success.

The global financial crisis and the terrorist attacks in Mumbai in November last year have impacted upon confidence in the country to stage a successful Games.

India are also minnows when it comes to hosting international multi-sport events, the last time being when they held the Asian Games in 1982.

But the ACGA is keeping the faith, believing Delhi just needs to ensure experienced heads are pulling the strings.

"Absolutely there's concerns. But more of the concern is just putting people in place to manage and run the Games," Crosswhite said.

"The venues and village and all that is just money and people and they've got plenty of people and probably plenty of money.

"It's probably just a body of knowledge of how you manage the Games and those things (that's required). You either get people from overseas or you do a very fast training program or a combination of both.

"That's the area the Commonwealth Games Federation is really encouraging the Indians to do. These events don't just happen."

The ACGA was informed in November last year that venues were behind schedule, but it is hardly a unique issue.

The same problem occurred during preparations for the Athens 2004 and Sydney 2000 Olympics, plus the Melbourne Commonwealth Games.

The ACGA's latest information is most venues will be finished by December this year.

Crosswhite also feels India is well-placed to deal with the current financial crisis.

"There are concerns, but then again you've got a billion people and a huge economy in India, so if they couldn't absorb it I don't know who could," he said.

Crosswhite will head to Delhi in April for an update on preparations.

So MO has Mike Fennell given you a call to straighten out things and convince the Australians that they can step into hosting 2010. Seems he has not called anyone but your "sources " .

yeah Again you show you lack of understanding that Melbourne has done the Commonwealth games disposing of the Tartan Track about three years ago and also sold the athletes village.

Jim jones

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Let's just really pray the New Dheli does it!

it needs more than a prayer at the moment.

here comes another Athens

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it needs more than a prayer at the moment.

here comes another Athens

Hey mo they could always host it in Capetown at the Greenpoint Stadium after all OCtober 2nd comes after the 2010 world cup in south Africa and that scaffolding awaits LOL

Jim jones

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