Alexjc Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Hey it's getting really bad now...We could find out tomorrow if the games will be trimmed back, posponed or cancelled. Either way it's bad news for ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arush Mittal Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Some news from the media, which hasn't been posted in this forum so far. Rogge: Commonwealth games will be a success IOC president puts positive spin on India Games despite delays Melbourne Gold medalists lead weightlifting team to the Commonwealth Games Scotland announce 191-member strong squad for Delhi CWG Commonwealth Games 2010: England selectors to name strong team for Delhi Commonwealth Games To Be Solar Powered And yes, Fennell satisfied with Commonwealth Games venues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Well, let's hope things work out. I don't think anyone in India can say this is how they envisioned things seven years ago though. Everything's been cut far too fine for anyone to be happy. The Games can still be a success despite this, but it will be hard for them not to be tarnished by the problems there have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuigiVercotti Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) Some news from the media, which hasn't been posted in this forum so far. Rogge: Commonwealth games will be a success IOC president puts positive spin on India Games despite delays Melbourne Gold medalists lead weightlifting team to the Commonwealth Games Scotland announce 191-member strong squad for Delhi CWG Commonwealth Games 2010: England selectors to name strong team for Delhi Commonwealth Games To Be Solar Powered And yes, Fennell satisfied with Commonwealth Games venues How about reading the forum more closely...as you will see in the thread re Jacques Rogge he didn't so much as make a positive statement about the Delhi 2010 organisation more that the Indian media was pessimistic. Plus JR's role as arguably the world's leading sports czar at the top of the most powerful global sports conglomerate means he will always tout for business and appease lobbyists wanting the SOGs. Did Rogge commend the gallery of crooks, buffoons and backsliders that have been putting these CGs into disrepute based on careful analysis of the series of scandals and organisational flaws that have mired Delhi 2010 in chaos? No. By the way, where's your post about the Indian weight lifters not possibly attending due to their failure to deal with the an unpaid fine after 6 lifters failed doping tests!! Just in case you don;t read your own media here's a link: Indian lifters face Games doubt over unpaid fine Not even during the heady days of East German or Soviet doping has a home nation's sporting team been so besmirched by the taint of drug cheating before a major games. As for Fennell's comments these have only been reported anecdotally by an official from the same farcical group organising the Delhi 2010 games. They are not an official release from him or the CGF. And even if he does give his federation;s stamp of approval it doesn't mean the venues and organisation has been satisfactory; it means the CGF and India can't afford the disdain, political and economic ramifications of abandoning these redundant games at this stage of their implementation. Finally before the Delhi 2010 organising committee get too cocky over massaging the ego of Messrs Fennell etc take a look at this report: Commonwealth Games backhanders and wild allegations continue apace in Delhi By Jacquelin Magnay, in Singapore Published: 9:44AM BST 18 Aug 2010 A Singapore company has spent more than US$5 million over the past three years securing big name sponsorship worth US$85 million for the New Delhi Commonwealth Games organising committee. Its reward? Not one cent in fees or payment owed and instead have been sacked and flattened by wild allegations of corruption in India, fuelled by sensational reporting on Indian television. The Commonwealth Games in India are already a disaster, with the Indian Prime Minister having to step in to take direct control amidst fake compliance of building works, serious building delays inflated payments in procurement, and backhanders that have already seen the resignation or sacking of three of the organising committee members. However it has been the corralling of highly respected international companies into the vortex of corruption claims that have seriously undermined India's credibility to the point where other international companies are demanding payment up front. Others are withdrawing, and quickly. At the Youth Olympics in Singapore, international sports leaders are staggered at the implication being spread widely by the Indians that some of the most reputable names in world sport are corrupt. So far the organisers are blaming the British company Fast Track (which pulled together the international broadcast deals) , the Swiss company EKS (which advised on the venues and technical support for the workforce) and have sensationally claimed that even the Commonwealth Games Federation's top officials, president Mike Fennell and its chief executive Mike Hooper are somehow involved in an ''international conspiracy''. All of which might take the focus off the seriously troubled Games preparations, except that the baseless claims are being taken seriously in India. Last week Telegraph Sport reported how the allegations were undermining India's chances of launching a bid for a future Olympic Games. Those feelings have only deepened in the past few days. Sports Marketing and Management (Singapore) known as SMAM is run by Australian businessman Mike Bushell, who set up an office of 12 staff in India, including six local Indian employees to service the contract to secure global and local sponsorships for the organising committee. His company organised the sponsorships of the Games by major Indian and overseas companies and was due to be paid a sliding scale of commission of between 15 to 21 percent when the sponsorship monies were due earlier this year. But instead of receiving payments under the contract that was agreed to by the organisers, earlier this month his company was sacked, ostensibly because they had failed to deliver. Yet the US $85 million was secured at a time of global financial stress and was more than what was secured for the Melbourne Commonwealth Games in 2006. The company still has not received any monies. ''I have worked 25 years to build up a business that has a strong reputation based on performance, integrity and morality and our reputation means more to us than any financial benefit,'' said Bushell. ''What has happened in New Delhi has completely devastated me, my family and my business and it is completely unjust, unfounded and baselss accusations that have been thrown at me.. I just feel sick.'' His distress has not gone unnoticed. The world leading company in firework displays, Howards Pyrotechnics, which is supplying the Indians with ceremony fireworks says it their standard practice to be paid on delivery and while they were not alarmed at this point, they were ''interested'' that a lot of other companies have had difficulties. ''If they don't pay, we don't unload (the boat), if one side doesn't fulfil is requirements under the contract then the other side takes its stuff home,'' Howards Pyrotechnics director Andrew Howard said. It is understood that at least one global firm has withdrawn its services from the Games because of difficulties other companies have faced and fears that they will not be paid. Great Big Events, which has conducted the in-venue promotions for major events around the world for two decades is believed to be withdrawing its association with the Indian organising committee. The Australian producer Ric Birch and his American company are involved in the opening ceremony extravaganza but could not be reached for comment if they had any serious concerns. But the sensationalism against the international companies persist. The Indian television station NDTV said it had uncovered ''an international money trail of corruption to Commonwealth Games headquarters in London''. It has claimed that EKS owner Craig McLatchey had been awarded a contract worth US$600,000 at the same time as he was helping the Commonwealth Games Federation. However the Commonwealth Games Federation's Mike Hooper said McLatchey's work had been revealed at the time and that the contract with EKS had been awarded by the organising committee - with whom McLatchey has no conflict of interest, not by the CGF with whom he was offering technical advice. No matter how much you'd like to believe in your countrymen's efforts the Delhi 2010 CGs are doing nothing but staining India's sporting reputation, plus casting a pall over what was supposed to be an efficient and friendly festival bringing people from over 70 nations and colonies together. Edited August 18, 2010 by eusebius65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Jamaican Sprinter Veronica Campbell Brown says that she will not be at the Commonwealth Games. So which track and field athletes will be attending the games anyhow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuigiVercotti Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 And whilst the world holds its breath for Delhi 2010 (well, maybe pinches it's nose briefly) the farce gets closer and closer... Indian Government directs Organising Committee to pay off national federation’s doping fine Yep, that's right. Money that was supposed to go towards the efficient safe hosting of these games is being spent by the organising committee to pay off Indian debt because their weightlifters were proven drug cheats. Indian tycoon criticises Delhi Games spending If the second richest Indian finds the idea of the profligate waste and redundancy of these CGs questionable how must the urban poor of Delhi feel? It's hard to be corrupt when you haven't been paid claims SMAM boss Major companies that have attracted record sponsorship deals for these games haven't been paid and look to be instigating multi-million legal action against the disorganising committee. Call-off Commonwealth Games, say rights activists Local activist cites dispossession, exploitation and prostitution in the wake of the Delhi 2010 games. And all this from just one day's worth of news coverage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Well well, in the lead up to Rio 2007 Pan American Games, the "impressive press" predicted things like a hole opening under the village and swallowing the athletes and other armageddonic scenarios. The games turned out being the best in ages. Let's hope India's got this luck too, eh? This topic is getting really frightening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arush Mittal Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 This topic is getting really frightening... Thanks to 'eusebius65' for his valuable updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 NEW DELHI: The Commonwealth Games deadline has just been pushed back, yet again. On Friday, Delhi CM Sheila Dikshit announced that, god willing, the Games venues would be ready to be handed over only by September 10-15. This means the venues will be ready just about a fortnight before the Games. After the venues are handed over, a lot of work would have to be done. Apart from fine-tuning facilities, dry runs would have to be carried out to check that all systems are alright. "This is as fine as it gets," said an official with the Organizing Committee. "Another slip-up and we'll be done for." Dikshit said heavy rain had prevented work from being completed in time, which is August 31. Actually, that was the fourth deadline to have been set after the first date of March 31 was missed. For most of this period, when civic agencies were supposed to be hard at work, there was no rain. Speaking to reporters on the sidelines of a function, Dikshit said: "Aisa lagta hai ke Indra devta humse kuch naraaz hain. (It seems the rain god is unhappy with us.) I will appeal to him to him bring some sunshine so that work can be completed." If rain stopped, she said, work would be wound up by September 10-15. Apart from giving the finishing touches to the stadiums, mounds of debris will have to be cleared from the venue sites. This is the third deadline set by the CM for removing the debris. Last month, she had set August 10 as the deadline, which was extended to August 31, and now to September 10-15. Incidentally, India was awarded the Commonwealth Games seven years ago, in 2003. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuigiVercotti Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 What a farce!!! These will undoubtedly be the worst example of a multi-event sports festival since the St Louis 1904 Olympics (which isn't saying much). The Delhi 2010 CGs have defined how to have the worst organisation of any major sporting event; simply ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 I've really been wanting to give these Games the benifit of the doubt, but it's really getting ridiculous now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 It just gets better... Commonwealth Games Organising Committee (CWG OC) Chairman Suresh Kalmadi on Saturday said the upcoming CWG even would be better than the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Kalmadi said this during "Swagatham" ceremony held to unveil the CWG theme song in Gurgaon. The song - 'Jiyo Utho Badho Jeeto'- is composed by A R Rahman. "It is going to be the best infrastructure in the world. It is going to have the best games; better than the Beijing Olympics," Kalmadi said. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/cwg-will-be-better-then-beijing-kalmadi/129796-3.html?from=tn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuigiVercotti Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 It just gets better... Commonwealth Games Organising Committee (CWG OC) Chairman Suresh Kalmadi on Saturday said the upcoming CWG even would be better than the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Kalmadi said this during "Swagatham" ceremony held to unveil the CWG theme song in Gurgaon. The song - 'Jiyo Utho Badho Jeeto'- is composed by A R Rahman. "It is going to be the best infrastructure in the world. It is going to have the best games; better than the Beijing Olympics," Kalmadi said. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/cwg-will-be-better-then-beijing-kalmadi/129796-3.html?from=tn This buffoon has the comic timing of Benito Mussolini and the same organisational skills. If his ineptitude wasn't seriously damaging the lives of poorer Indians, the reputation of the CGs and India and itself plus putting into possible danger the ability of our athletes to perform well and safely this would be anexquisite joke. Sad to say it isn't; it's a criminal fail of un-Beijing like stature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted August 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Reminds me of Ron Walker trying to talk up with a straight face that the Melbourne CWGs would be bigger than Sydney 2000. Of course, though, hyperbole is about the only thing Kalmadi has in common with Walker. I can only shake my head each time I realise he's still in in the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuigiVercotti Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Reminds me of Ron Walker trying to talk up with a straight face that the Melbourne CWGs would be bigger than Sydney 2000. Of course, though, hyperbole is about the only thing Kalmadi has in common with Walker. I can only shake my head each time I realise he's still in in the job. Ron is a bombastic booster of all things Melbourne which he accomplishes with great effect because (a) he believes in what he says ( he gets the money to implement a lot of what he promotes and © Sydney's lack of vision and quality management of events means that Melbourne gets a free run with quite a few things. Kalmadi is an A Grade Mook, Goose, Fool, Nong, Twat, Dill...as Roy & HG would put it. To paraphrase another great Aussie commentator, Daryl Kerrigan "Tell him he's dreaming" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 To be fair, I posted the same article on SSC, and the Indian members on there shared your opinion and were pretty embarrassed by his words, not trying to defend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuigiVercotti Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 To be fair, I posted the same article on SSC, and the Indian members on there shared your opinion and were pretty embarrassed by his words, not trying to defend them. Perhaps the Indian general public are far wiser about the true state of affairs than what the egotistical criminals are that are in charge of this schemozzle: Indian author blasts 'corrupt' GamesAugust 30, 2010 A BESTSELLING Indian author has branded the Delhi Commonwealth Games the biggest and most blatant exercise in corruption since the country won independence six decades ago. Chetan Bhagat, who has sold more than 4 million books and has a substantial youth following, called for the public to boycott the event as a protest against bribery and sleaze. His stinging attack came soon after Delhi's Chief Minister, Sheila Dikshit, revealed it would take until the middle of next month to complete Games-related work - which is when athletes will start arriving. She blamed incessant monsoon rains for the latest delay, joking that the rain god must be unhappy with Delhi. ''I will appeal to him to bring some sunshine,'' she was quoted as saying. ''If the rain stops and the sun comes out we should be able to complete the work by September 10-15.'' Deadlines set for March 31, June 30 and July 31 have all been missed. Bhagat called for the boycott in a column in the Sunday edition of The Times of India. It comes amid growing public disenchantment with an event that was meant to highlight India's growing economic and technological clout. ''The CWG 2010 is, by far, the biggest and most blatant exercise in corruption in independent India's history,'' Bhagat wrote. ''Not only have they stolen public money, they've made a mess of the job at hand.'' He said all Indians had been robbed and the Games were a ''golden chance'' to put the ''corrupt and insensitive'' government to shame. ''Usually corruption issues are local in nature and they never really get the national traction or resonance that these games have offered,'' he wrote. He urged all Indians to stay away from Games events and not to watch them on TV. Cheering for the ''lootfest'' would be a mistake, he wrote. ''You cannot become a cheerleader for an exercise in cheating.'' He likened the Indian citizenry to a battered wife who is expected to hide her bruises and continue to praise her husband (in this case, Delhi games organisers). Bhagat, a former merchant banker, became a publishing sensation with his 2004 book Five Point Someone. The president of the Commonwealth Games Federation, Mike Fennell, inspected venues on August 18 and 19 and said they were finished ''for all practical purposes''. However, he said there was a large amount of finishing work to be done, especially landscaping. Tens of thousands of labourers working on Games-related road and infrastructure projects have been hampered by monsoon rains over the past fortnight that have caused flooding. The heavy rain has also exposed poor construction work at several Games venues, including at the main athletic stadium. This month a former sports minister and senior figure in the ruling Congress party, Mani Shankar Aiyar, caused a furore when he said he would be unhappy if the Games were a success. Mr Aiyar, who is an MP, said the money spent building venues and staging the Games would have been better used helping India's poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormiermax Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 These will no doubt be the worst commonwealth games in its history, Almost every aspect of these games has been a huge disappointment. From venue delays and venue design, security, the treatment of workers. All I can say is India, you could have done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted August 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 I'm a bit with Rob. I don't wanna judge a games till they've been held. But, yeah, it's hard to have confidence in them succeeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 No deadlines, Delhi will be ready for Games before Oct 3: Dikshit New Delhi, Aug 27 – Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit Friday confirmed that the Aug 31 deadline for completion of Commonwealth Games-related projects will not be met but said that Delhi will be ready for the mega sporting event before Oct 3 or 15 days earlier, provided the sun shines and the rains stop. After inaugurating a parking site at the Jawaharlal Nehru stadium here, Dikshit acknowledged that the incessant rains have been an obstacle in meeting the deadline, but at the same time refuted rumours that the venues will not be ready in time. ‘We have full faith in our authorities that they will ready the venues on time, but incessant rains are hampering the progress of preparations of the venues. And we pray to the rain gods to have mercy on us,’ Dikshit said. The chief minister asserted that the Oct 3-14 Games are a national and not a political issue. ‘We have beautifully engineered the city, not only in areas in the vicinity of the Commonwealth Games village and venues, but also areas lying far outside,’ she added. On removal of debris from across the city, she said the work will be done by Sep 10 and so far 145,000 tonnes of debris have been removed from various areas of the city. Earlier, Dikshit had set Aug 10 as the deadline to remove the debris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 But it will have the BIGGEST Bollywood Opening ever!! And that will wash away all this pre-Games detritus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuigiVercotti Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Heard this report on ABC radio this morning...looks like Delhi is reaching a fever pitch thanks to all the delayed construction and monsoon rain... Dengue dogs Delhi games preparations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arush Mittal Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Heard this report on ABC radio this morning...looks like Delhi is reaching a fever pitch thanks to all the delayed construction and monsoon rain... Dengue dogs Delhi games preparations And, meanwhile mosquito breeding around Commonwealth Games venues has decreased after the drastic measures being taken by various agencies, according to the Delhi government. Mosquito breeding at CWG venues down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiFreak Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Heard this report on ABC radio this morning...looks like Delhi is reaching a fever pitch thanks to all the delayed construction and monsoon rain... Dengue dogs Delhi games preparations They could've gone the "lite" route like our games here in Victoria back in '94. But then again, sports fans on some forum called Gamesbids will start complaining that the show is not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuigiVercotti Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 And, meanwhile mosquito breeding around Commonwealth Games venues has decreased after the drastic measures being taken by various agencies, according to the Delhi government. Mosquito breeding at CWG venues down Yeah right...let's believe the government which can't honour deadlines and appeals to rain gods Or maybe it's all one big Chinese plot to make sure that these brilliantly organised utterly incorruptible games won't put Beijing 2008 into the shade like the highly esteemed Mr Kalmadi knows Delhi 2010 will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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