arwebb Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 I noticed that. I'm trying to work out who that could favour, if anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 ..on an extraordinarily successful sports year: with the Torino Olympics, the World Cup victory and (possibly) the victory in the Euro 2012 contest. but also dramatic and controversial if you consider the national league's scandal.. only Italy can win the FIFA WC in the same year of the greatest Serie A crash! there's something operaly and romantic in this.. you know it's the italian way to do things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 but also dramatic and controversial if you consider the national league's scandal..only Italy can win the FIFA WC in the same year of the greatest Serie A crash! there's something operaly and romantic in this.. you know it's the italian way to do things. Yes, but **** happens. We in Germany had the large doping scandal around our former cycling icon Jan Ullrich -- but nevertheless, it was an unforgettable and excellent sports year for us, too. We were the most successful nation in Torino, we hosted a great World Cup and had a team which surprised and inspired us all, we hosted much-applauded World Equestrian Games, we became Hockey World Champions on home soil and maybe Michael Schumacher is able to finish his career as World Champion. So who cares about those "little" scandals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 We have been Basketball World Champions, we've virtually won Le Tour, we've hosted a successful Vuelta a España (some cyclist experts said it has been the best race of the year, althought finally Vinokourov won), we've had Nadal & Alonso victories... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesco_82 Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 will it be another "mine is longer" topic? i hope not coz i'm fed up with that--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 will it be another "mine is longer" topic? i hope not coz i'm fed up with that--- Me too, in fact I reckon I'm even more fed up than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Me too, in fact I reckon I'm even more fed up than you. Well, I don't feel addressed by this criticism. I only said to Rei that it's possible to overlook some scandals as long as the rest of the year is plenty of more successful sports events -- and used the German experiences of this year as example. Why Mikel had to add the list of Spain's recent achievements, I don't understand either. Ask him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I noticed that. I'm trying to work out who that could favour, if anyone. I think, it will favour Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 What's startled the Queen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesco_82 Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I think, it will favour Italy. why do you think so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 why do you think so? Because the Serie A-Scandal wont be in the headlines anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Not unless more revelations come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Not unless more revelations come out. You wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szaasz Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 You wish. Why would I exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Why would I exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Regardless of what you might think, I have no beef against Italy or Italian football whatsoever. Perhaps you could offer your views on the latest news about Lazio, instead of casting aspersions on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Perhaps you could offer your views on the latest news about Lazio, instead of casting aspersions on people. perhaps you could explain us what happened in premier league with their recent rake-off, instead of casting aspersions on italian football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Clearly you missed Friday's news about an arrest warrant being issued for the Lazio president, but just to fill you in: Police move in over Lazio shares As for our league, investigations are continuing. But you clearly don't believe in the principal of innocent until proven guilty, do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Clearly you missed Friday's news about an arrest warrant being issued for the Lazio president, but just to fill you in who, Chinaglia? to see.. But you clearly don't believe in the principal of innocent until proven guilty, do you. oh I believe in it, infact I didn't judge I only asked for more infos about the file.. You shouldn't believe in it only when it suit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 If you have bothered to read any post of mine on any issue of legality, you will note that the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise is something I believe in with a passion. If that comment wasn't so damn offensive, it would be hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 we have a different consideration of what is offensive and not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Besides which, Rei, you're not looking at the main problem. The news about the Lazio president keeps that murky image of dark dealing and wrongdoing prominent in people's minds. If this drags on to next April, it is surely going to damage Italy's chances of winning 2012, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 sincerely arwebb you should understand that I'm really really and really tired to talk about Serie A scandal again.. I don't want to hide anything about it.. it has been an impressive earthquake here (to see that we have already forgot the last WC victory) and I hope that soccer will be dropped out from Italy for many years in order to bring people near to other beautiful sports which deserve more.. and sincerely I don't fucking care if Italy wins the euro2012! I support Croatia-Hungary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 And Croatia-Hungary aren't exactly flying at the moment. It seems to me that all Poland-Ukraine have to do is keep out of trouble and it's theirs to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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